Message to CARD.

I bet me & my Mum scared loads of people :-)

We just asked people not to spend money in the shop, plenty of people ignored us & walked in unhindered. Had a chat to a few different people with various opinions and all was good natured as far as I saw.

cabbles said:

My dad went in to buy a programme. He didn't say anyone mentioned anything to him. Seemed like a peaceful protest to me

He did what??? Disown him immediately!

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.

oohaahmortimer said:

You just know there are those ,who if they could , would blame the shit results on CARD

Sadly more and more do!

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?

kings hill addick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.

I quoted SDAddick, so it was obviously aimed at you...

Redskin said:

kings hill addick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.

I quoted SDAddick, so it was obviously aimed at you...

Technically you quoted both of us and I am on a mobile facing the sun, but I am a little thick so it comes as no surprise that I would get that wrong.

:-)

sam3110 said:

SDAddick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?

Of course, you fairweather Yank. Do you even know where England is on a map? We all have tea with the Queen by the way, and walk around in top hat and tails, and can't go 15 minutes without a cuppa. If you ever do come here, remember we don't say hello or good morning, our Official greeting is "lovely/terrible weather we're having" (delete as applicable)

;-)

I keep getting this Fairweather thing so wrong...

ElfsborgAddick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?

Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.

And if he does not answer the question take it that he's not been.

I'd answer like this either way.

I like how my post about "we're all entitled to our opinions" has become a challenge of "are you fan enough to have an opinion?"

All fans are equal, some are more equal than others, eh?

SDAddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

Redskin said:

SDAddick said:

kings hill addick said:

While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

Bring on the abuse......

I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?

Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.

And if he does not answer the question take it that he's not been.

I'd answer like this either way.

I like how my post about "we're all entitled to our opinions" has become a challenge of "are you fan enough to have an opinion?"

All fans are equal, some are more equal than others, eh?

SD, at a time when many are boycotting to try and save the club, the furtherest away you are from The Valley the better. If you were to come out and tell us you'd never been to Europe that would make you the ultimate Charlton fan