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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,196
    Lame fans
  • Wilma
    Wilma Posts: 1,618
    I bet me & my Mum scared loads of people :-)

    We just asked people not to spend money in the shop, plenty of people ignored us & walked in unhindered. Had a chat to a few different people with various opinions and all was good natured as far as I saw.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,261
    My dad went in to buy a programme. He didn't say anyone mentioned anything to him. Seemed like a peaceful protest to me
  • cabbles said:

    My dad went in to buy a programme. He didn't say anyone mentioned anything to him. Seemed like a peaceful protest to me

    He did what??? Disown him immediately! :wink:
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    edited August 2016
    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,670
    Wilma said:

    I bet me & my Mum scared loads of people :-)

    We just asked people not to spend money in the shop, plenty of people ignored us & walked in unhindered. Had a chat to a few different people with various opinions and all was good natured as far as I saw.

    Indeed. The only thing missing was tea and scones.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477
    edited August 2016

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121
    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?


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  • Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,196
    You just know there are those ,who if they could , would blame the shit results on CARD
  • You just know there are those ,who if they could , would blame the shit results on CARD

    Sadly more and more do!
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,670
    cafcfan said:

    Trained killers blockade the club shop..

    Is that Michael Phelps with his death stare on in that photo?
    It's my son. He hadn't been fed for at least 30 minutes.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477
    edited August 2016
    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121
    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.
    I quoted SDAddick, so it was obviously aimed at you...

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,345
    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Of course, you fairweather Yank. Do you even know where England is on a map? We all have tea with the Queen by the way, and walk around in top hat and tails, and can't go 15 minutes without a cuppa. If you ever do come here, remember we don't say hello or good morning, our Official greeting is "lovely/terrible weather we're having" (delete as applicable)

    ;-)
  • Redskin said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.
    I quoted SDAddick, so it was obviously aimed at you...

    Technically you quoted both of us and I am on a mobile facing the sun, but I am a little thick so it comes as no surprise that I would get that wrong.

    :-)
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477
    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
    No its not, it's obviously a weighted one if you can't explain why it matters.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477
    sam3110 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Of course, you fairweather Yank. Do you even know where England is on a map? We all have tea with the Queen by the way, and walk around in top hat and tails, and can't go 15 minutes without a cuppa. If you ever do come here, remember we don't say hello or good morning, our Official greeting is "lovely/terrible weather we're having" (delete as applicable)

    ;-)
    I keep getting this Fairweather thing so wrong...
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,183
    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
    And if he does not answer the question take it that he's not been.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121
    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
    No its not, it's obviously a weighted one if you can't explain why it matters.
    My, you're defensive. I'll take that as a 'no' then. It doesn't matter.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
    And if he does not answer the question take it that he's not been.
    I'd answer like this either way.

    I like how my post about "we're all entitled to our opinions" has become a challenge of "are you fan enough to have an opinion?"

    All fans are equal, some are more equal than others, eh?
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121

    Redskin said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    I don't know if that was aimed at me but if it was I can confirm that I have been to The Valley quite a few times.
    I quoted SDAddick, so it was obviously aimed at you...

    Technically you quoted both of us and I am on a mobile facing the sun, but I am a little thick so it comes as no surprise that I would get that wrong.

    :-)
    I'm thick when it comes to Internet bollocks. No offence intended, dear man.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited August 2016
    Anybody who writes about Charlton on the internet is a fan according to Chief Superintendent Cliff Eager so I believe.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,121
    seth plum said:

    JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.

    As admirable as her contributions are, she's a 'fan' not a 'supporter'. There's a difference.
    And I say this as a dispassionate supporter
    myself.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,084
    edited August 2016
    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    Redskin said:

    SDAddick said:

    While I don't disagree with protests and I have full support for what CARD are trying to do I'm not comfortable with fans being 'advised' not to do something and I'm even more concerned with how how Grandpa is been riddiculed on here.
    Every time something like this happens and the individual that exercises his right to his own opinion is 'attacked' CARD lose just a little more support.

    If these events continue to happen in the end there will be less support for CARD than there is for the club.

    I'm going to ignore any abuse I get for this so you'd be wasting your time giving it but from memory Grandpa has been a reasonable poster on here and has been as keen to remove the Belgians as most others. There does come a point where you will have excluded so many that you really wil be 2%.

    I can't think of any historical campaign that has been successful when the members are so quick to turn on their own.

    Bring on the abuse......

    I agree, at least in principle. As far as I'm concerned, this has been some people voicing their feelings about the protest, others protesting legally, and you're both right--you're both entitled to your opinions.

    It seemed that we started careening toward turning on each other at the end of last year when not renewing was being discussed. It feels like there has been a lot more sympathy, as it is a very, very hard decision and that's made me really proud. As far as I'm concerned, no fan is "The Enemy." We will not all agree with each other, you will never have true plurality, but the problem lives in Belgium, not London. We need to respect each person's desire to protest or not protest in their own way, or we're no better than those who we oppose. When RD is gone, we'll all still be Charlton fans.
    Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to The Valley?

    Out of curiosity, if I hadn't would I be less of a fan or my opinion less valid?
    Well, have you or haven't you? It's a simple question.
    And if he does not answer the question take it that he's not been.
    I'd answer like this either way.

    I like how my post about "we're all entitled to our opinions" has become a challenge of "are you fan enough to have an opinion?"

    All fans are equal, some are more equal than others, eh?
    SD, at a time when many are boycotting to try and save the club, the furtherest away you are from The Valley the better. If you were to come out and tell us you'd never been to Europe that would make you the ultimate Charlton fan :wink:
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    seth plum said:

    JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.

    Come on Jessie get yourself over for a game - you'll be level with Roland then on games attended :smiley: