How do the fans get behind the Varney initative?

IdleHans said:

If the club continues on this trajectory, the only crumb of comfort will be that Roland will have lost his investment, and his plan for the reshaping of football will be nothing but a smoking ruin, with CAFC the innocent victim. Perhaps only then will those represented by PV find themselves able to conduct a dialogue with those running CAFC, i.e. the administrator.

I appreciate that Ms Meire has assured us that Roland doesnt do failure, but neither am I sure that a headlong plunge towards relegation with falling attendances is what success looks like. I would like to understand what the current regime would consider to be failure. If this isn't it, I'm not surprised Roland doesn't do it, as there's clearly no such thing.

Well definitely not the managers, they've all been a roaring success.

RM is as deluded as KM, would not trust either of them to know the truth if it smashed them in the face.

RM's reputation is now shot to bits, he is like an old man at a party keeps telling everybody the same story as how he brought Charlton out of the wilderness, but fails to tell them that he then fuc..d everything up after stabbing many of his so called friends in the back.

Varney over Murray any day.

Off_it said:

Thanks for posting up the picture, but it just seems like an email chain trying to arrange a meeting that never actually got arranged.

What's the "Varney initiative"? Anyone? Or shall I just give up asking?

It's an email chain showing that KM and RD don't want to enter into dialogue with someone representing a group willing to inject significant investment. The two previous pages would have helped explain this.

As to the Varney Initiative, ask the OP as he started it.

Protest, Protest, Protest.

WSS said:

Fair enough. Seemingly factual then based on yours and others comments.

Haven't got a clue who Steve Clarke is (my naivety) - hope he is doing stuff in the background though to the benefit of the club.

Apologies if your relationship is no more so than that of a journo who simply asks for a quote or an opinion now and again. That's me reading things the wrong way.

We all want the same thing though and rht is for the club to be run if a different way - that includes RM who seemingly is acting like nothing more than one of those creepy talking sea bass that hangs on the wall of an amateur executives' office and sings now and again.

Steve Clarke is the current Chairman of the Supporters Trust. The organization that you said could not do anything with this possible initiative because I would block it. I guess that means you are not a Trust member

Actually Glen though we have hardly met in person I have the impression that you are a good guy and want the best for Charlton as I do, so why not leave off the personal intrigue side, let's give each other ( all of us) a break and see what we can all do to get our club out of this dire mess.

Now, have they sacked that idiot yet?

PragueAddick said:

WSS said:

Fair enough. Seemingly factual then based on yours and others comments.

Haven't got a clue who Steve Clarke is (my naivety) - hope he is doing stuff in the background though to the benefit of the club.

Apologies if your relationship is no more so than that of a journo who simply asks for a quote or an opinion now and again. That's me reading things the wrong way.

We all want the same thing though and rht is for the club to be run if a different way - that includes RM who seemingly is acting like nothing more than one of those creepy talking sea bass that hangs on the wall of an amateur executives' office and sings now and again.

Steve Clarke is the current Chairman of the Supporters Trust. The organization that you said could not do anything with this possible initiative because I would block it. I guess that means you are not a Trust member

Actually Glen though we have hardly met in person I have the impression that you are a good guy and want the best for Charlton as I do, so why not leave off the personal intrigue side, let's give each other ( all of us) a break and see what we can all do to get our club out of this dire mess.

Now, have they sacked that idiot yet?

Amen to that. We're fighting a war here and need a war cabinet. Let's dump the petty internal politics and concentrate on getting these foreign invaders out of our land.

WrightCharlie said:

@rikofold said:-

"Prague's replied, but just to add that we have a chance as a board in the next few days to consider the current situation together, particularly in light of the Varney revelations. We check where we are very regularly but until we conclude there's nothing to be gained from our current focus...but part of our deliberations will be whether there are any signs she's doing to us what she did to Varney. Airman shed light on the Target 20k thing today, and we perhaps generously issued a yellow card.

Still, the crowd today made their feelings brilliantly clear, and I wouldn't have wanted to be in the ground if I was the CEO when the crowd stood up chanting at her."

As a Trust member, and given the deteriorating footballing situation and the PV information, I'd very much like the CAST board to have invited member feedback for your deliberations. I believe you or others from CAST have done so on this forum but I can't recall you asking for feedback via the weekly updates we get?
I appreciate it would be a little like trying to catch custard as the results and other information will always create something of a moving feast but I'd think your considerations and actions would be better aided by getting a good as feel as possible for where members currently stand?

Damned if we do, etc. The best way would be a survey, but many feel we have had too many, and they take time to process.

I think we have said several times we'd welcome feedback through the website.

On here I several times announced that @rikofold and I would be in the White Swan today so anyone could come up and give us their thoughts. We only encountered @Davo55 ( whose views we already knew well, but it was still so much better to TALK) and @Covered End . I'm not extrovert enough to go round the pub bellowing my presence, but I did walk all through it, and out to the garden, trying to catch people's eye, and all I got was hostile stares that seemed to focus on my black and white scarf.

:-)

We try to be as accessible as possible, but we are all just volunteers, with all the usual stuff of life to deal with. Just drop us a line. We perceive that many people who previously in the survey told us to continue to seek dialogue, now think it's time to give up, and join protest. But with what goal? Where do you stand?

Having just read that transcript I feel mightily pissed off. This being in the public domain is very harmful to the club and will ramp up ill feeling.

It can go one of two ways -
1- Roland gets the arse and cashes in with Varney and co
2- Roland and Katrien get a siege mentality and continue to ignore the haters while their seemingly evil plan continues to unfold

I know what I wouldrather

northstandsteve said:

Was what's this all about please ?

Read the thread.

northstandsteve said:

Was what's this all about please ?

Varney emailed Roland requesting a 30min meeting in Belgium to discuss an investment opportunity that the Kuwati company he represents were offering the club.

Katrien replied 34 days later and proceeded to muck Varney around bu cancelling meetings at short notice and then ignoring other emails. Roland jumped in saying a meeting would be arranged. Katrien didn't arrange it.

Varney told them to poke it.

The end.

Fuckin great

From what I can make out the 'Varney initiative' is a nothing story to aid selling a few more copies of VOTV.

Good effort and nice interview though..

they're such oddballs and rude are we sure they're not Russian