You can see that in the players that Roland brought over earlier on in the season.
Well those players are basicly not good enough for standard. And mostly not good enough to be loaned out to another belgian team. And not good enough for the championship either. Riga was well aware of that judging how much he used those players
Who knows what's the reason for RD to get those players to Charlton... i don't know. No one knows. I can garantuee you Bob Peeters will be aware as well that those kind of players are not good enough. Whether he will get better players will depend not on him, but on what RD is willing to spend for the next season. But knowing Duchatelet a bit, my guess that you will have a team that is good enough to compete. Duchatelet is a businessman -but a special one. he wants to be succesful and is driven by succeeding. Failure is not aoption for him, so he definately wants to have team with subpar quality that struggles to avoid relegation again.
You can see that in the players that Roland brought over earlier on in the season.
Well those players are basicly not good enough for standard. And mostly not good enough to be loaned out to another belgian team. And not good enough for the championship either. Riga was well aware of that judging how much he used those players
Who knows what's the reason for RD to get those players to Charlton... i don't know. No one knows. I can garantuee you Bob Peeters will be aware as well that those kind of players are not good enough. Whether he will get better players will depend not on him, but on what RD is willing to spend for the next season. But knowing Duchatelet a bit, my guess that you will have a team that is good enough to compete. Duchatelet is a businessman -but a special one. he wants to be succesful and is driven by succeeding. Failure is not aoption for him, so he definately wants to have team with subpar quality that struggles to avoid relegation again.
At least that is my opinion.
I didn't mean to like that - LOL. I meant to quote never mind. BYL you are not Roland are you or related to him by some chance ? Just checking ! You seem pretty positive about him.
Sorry that your girlfriend does not like football. My missus grew up watching football with her dad and brother and likes the game, so I am lucky there. It makes life easier sometimes. Good luck with the world cup !
Yes, because the last 4 British coaches we have appointed have all been such great successes. Time for a change.
Yep Powell was sh*t wasn't he? Some rewriting of history going on here lately.
1 out of 4? A 25% success rate? Yep, THAT'S reallllllly encouraging...
Didn't say 1 out of 4 was a success though did he? He implied all 4 were crap. Nationality has nothing to do with it. Burnley and Leicester did all right. Success is a combination of things, including team spirit, money, stable boardroom and some luck thrown in too.
We've heard that before. Unfortunately, it doesn't ring true. It's just the kind of myth that some kinds of successful people all over try to perpetuate about themselves.
Standard de Liege just failed to win their league from a commanding position going into the playoffs. None of the other clubs are particularly successful. And probably best not to mention his political career, but certainly not something we can call a success.
Personally, I prefer the kinds of successful people that claim their failures as integral to their successes. People can relate to that.
Doom, doom and more gloom. Lookout, ever since RD took over you have been negative about him. He is successful because he has got a few hundred million euros. He got that by being good at what he did, including being ruthless. You say none of the other clubs are successful, that is because he bought small clubs who were struggling. He has an idea which he wants to develop, whether it will work or not only time will tell. I will tell you why I like him. He got rid of an under performing manager, he is developing the training ground. He is spending his hard earned on a new pitch and drainage. He is trying to lower the debt in the club. We can't keep on losing 7 million every Year. He also is very keen to use the lads from the Academy, which I think is the way forward.
What I haven't agreed with, are the level of players we brought in January. This needs to be addressed. Also I believe Jose Riga should have been given a new contract. But I will not rubbish Bob Peeters before he has arrived or just because he played for Millwall once. I don't give a rats arse who he used to play for. I will judge him on what results he gets for Charlton Athletic. As I have judged all of the previous managers.
Doom, doom and more gloom. Lookout, ever since RD took over you have been negative about him. He is successful because he has got a few hundred million euros. He got that by being good at what he did, including being ruthless. You say none of the other clubs are successful, that is because he bought small clubs who were struggling. He has an idea which he wants to develop, whether it will work or not only time will tell. I will tell you why I like him. He got rid of an under performing manager, he is developing the training ground. He is spending his hard earned on a new pitch and drainage. He is trying to lower the debt in the club. We can't keep on losing 7 million every Year. He also is very keen to use the lads from the Academy, which I think is the way forward.
What I haven't agreed with, are the level of players we brought in January. This needs to be addressed. Also I believe Jose Riga should have been given a new contract. But I will not rubbish Bob Peeters before he has arrived or just because he played for Millwall once. I don't give a rats arse who he used to play for. I will judge him on what results he gets for Charlton Athletic. As I have judged all of the previous managers.
I think he should have been a lot more supportive of the "under performing" manager, who had the vast majority of fans behind him. He should have fully trusted and backed CP based on his achievements to date. He inherited a manager who had under performed by getting us out of L1 with a record points total, had taken us to 9th within a few points of the playoffs - (and yes with a better end of season run than the now godlike(post Barnsley) JR achieved). An unde-performing manager with two brilliant seasons behind him who then had his squad not only woefully under-invested in but seriouslyvweakened pre-season and also by RD in January. If he had backed CP he would have my full support, instead he undermined him and got very, very lucky indeed with JR - and i credit the likes of Alex Dyer immensley for holding it together for us as well.
So now we are onto our second gamble in a few months, is it all really necessary - didnt we already have a competent, young and well respected in English football manager - who just needed some f*cking help at the end of the day.
I want to flag those pictures of scum shirts with our players in It's filth and you know it and it makes me feel sick It's a blot on anyone's career who's even been there in my eyes
I want to flag those pictures of scum shirts with our players in It's filth and you know it and it makes me feel sick It's a blot on anyone's career who's even been there in my eyes
@oohaahmortimer Summers to me is like Curbs was to you and he saw the light by coming over to the 'red' side and I like to think Gritty was acting as a double agent. If it helps crop the pictures at the neck alternatively regard their shirts as a form of 'corporate wardrobe' which you have no choice but to wear at work :-)
I want to flag those pictures of scum shirts with our players in It's filth and you know it and it makes me feel sick It's a blot on anyone's career who's even been there in my eyes
oh do grow grow up some of you, Millwall are our local rivals they are not the devil incarnate but just a rather rubbish team just down the road. A foreign footballer coming to England will get a job where he can and I'm sure not look into the history of the club. The only relevance that Peeters played for Millwall is that he has some understanding of our league, for all we know he might hate them as much as some of you purport to.
Each to their own but they are the scum and have the highest amount of cunts per fan at any club in England Everyone can chose to ignore this but I can't And obviously I'd back anyone who comes to us BUT I'd prefer they had no connection to that bucket shop but it is what it is , sorry for not turning a blind eye And yes it is an immature attitude but ffs we are talking about 11 men running around kicking a football when did sensible maturity ever come in to following a football team
And I tell you how mature I am on my bbm messenger and whatsapp profile picture I already have a picture of BP just as I did JR and SCP I'm 43 years young and a father of 4 , if that isn't immaturely pathetic I don't know what is !!!!!
oh do grow grow up some of you, Millwall are our local rivals they are not the devil incarnate but just a rather rubbish team just down the road. A foreign footballer coming to England will get a job where he can and I'm sure not look into the history of the club. The only relevance that Peeters played for Millwall is that he has some understanding of our league, for all we know he might hate them as much as some of you purport to.
I don't really care if he played for the scum , I'd prefer it if he never did but what I don't like is Charlton fans putting up pics of him in a millwank shirt when there's plenty of other pictures.
Couldn't care less that he played for Millwall all I care about is if he does well for us
This. I cheered Harry Cripps playing for us, because he'd clearly put aside old loyalties and gave his all in red (Dunphy was another matter...). Peeters is not a Millwall fan or an apologist for their 'culture'
. At the moment I see appointing Riga as saving us from certain relegation so I'm prepared to give RD the benefit of the doubt on this one.
We were 4/9 to stay up at the point of him taking charge, 6/4 to go down. He done a very good job to get us scoring, but we were far from down at the time Powell was sacked. Would of been nice to let Riga carry on his work as he knows all the players, Peeters will not and has to earn their trust, like a merry go round this for the players, no security anywhere.
I fully expect Peeters to be appointed today/tomorrow and of course my default position with any new manager is to give them 100% support, but I can't pretend I'm not very, very concerned at what's happening at our club.
Though I will back Peeters (see earlier post), I am concerned too. OK, RD & Chris did not share the same vision, and RD didn't trust Chris's judgement on the new players brought in.
But Riga presumably DOES share the vision, and because of that & the fact he was known/trusted by RD, it also meant that Riga's view that Thuram etc were not good enough was accepted by RD and the network scouts. At that point we all seemed to be in a good place, and I couldn't see any argument for not continuing with Riga. Saying "well Peeters is even better" cuts no ice with me, at some point you have to value continuity and team/club spirit.
Bob Peeters today puts his signature to the English team Charlton, reports the latest news. A week ago, the two parties arrived at an agreement, but only now the deal is completed. At Charlton, the 40-year-old Belgian coach, who played as a player in the Netherlands Roda JC and Vitesse, the successor to José Riga. Waasland-Beveren received by registered letter of the contract termination Peeters and get a leg up fee.
'll Soon introduce their new coach. Lokeren Harm van Veldhoven's top candidate.
Yes, because the last 4 British coaches we have appointed have all been such great successes. Time for a change.
Yep Powell was sh*t wasn't he? Some rewriting of history going on here lately.
1 out of 4? A 25% success rate? Yep, THAT'S reallllllly encouraging...
Except that Powell's record was 59 wins in 145 matches. That's a 40.7% success rate and places him all time third* behind Mike Bailey and the great Jimmy Seed. As Nug say's, there's definitely some re-writing of history going on here lately.
*Out of Charlton managers who've had at least one full season's worth games.
Yes, because the last 4 British coaches we have appointed have all been such great successes. Time for a change.
Yep Powell was sh*t wasn't he? Some rewriting of history going on here lately.
1 out of 4? A 25% success rate? Yep, THAT'S reallllllly encouraging...
Except that Powell's record was 59 wins in 145 matches. That's a 40.7% success rate and places him all time third* behind Mike Bailey and the great Jimmy Seed. As Nug say's, there's definitely some re-writing of history going on here lately.
*Out of Charlton managers who've had at least one full season's worth games.
I hate all these 'facts and figures' as they are often used as a stick to beat with.
For example, a lot of Powell's wins would have come in a very easy League 1....Curbishley further down the list spent many years trying to win against very good Premiership teams....Is / Was Powell a better manager?
I would suggest that by using facts and figures, you are also attempting to 're-write history' ?!
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Who knows what's the reason for RD to get those players to Charlton... i don't know. No one knows. I can garantuee you Bob Peeters will be aware as well that those kind of players are not good enough. Whether he will get better players will depend not on him, but on what RD is willing to spend for the next season. But knowing Duchatelet a bit, my guess that you will have a team that is good enough to compete. Duchatelet is a businessman -but a special one. he wants to be succesful and is driven by succeeding. Failure is not aoption for him, so he definately wants to have team with subpar quality that struggles to avoid relegation again.
At least that is my opinion.
Sorry that your girlfriend does not like football. My missus grew up watching football with her dad and brother and likes the game, so I am lucky there. It makes life easier sometimes. Good luck with the world cup !
By the way good luck Bob and welcome to Charlton.
We've heard that before. Unfortunately, it doesn't ring true. It's just the kind of myth that some kinds of successful people all over try to perpetuate about themselves.
Standard de Liege just failed to win their league from a commanding position going into the playoffs. None of the other clubs are particularly successful. And probably best not to mention his political career, but certainly not something we can call a success.
Personally, I prefer the kinds of successful people that claim their failures as integral to their successes. People can relate to that.
I will tell you why I like him. He got rid of an under performing manager, he is developing the training ground. He is spending his hard earned on a new pitch and drainage. He is trying to lower the debt in the club. We can't keep on losing 7 million every Year. He also is very keen to use the lads from the Academy, which I think is the way forward.
What I haven't agreed with, are the level of players we brought in January. This needs to be addressed. Also I believe Jose Riga should have been given a new contract. But I will not rubbish Bob Peeters before he has arrived or just because he played for Millwall once. I don't give a rats arse who he used to play for. I will judge him on what results he gets for Charlton Athletic. As I have judged all of the previous managers.
So now we are onto our second gamble in a few months, is it all really necessary - didnt we already have a competent, young and well respected in English football manager - who just needed some f*cking help at the end of the day.
It's filth and you know it and it makes me feel sick
It's a blot on anyone's career who's even been there in my eyes
Everyone can chose to ignore this but I can't
And obviously I'd back anyone who comes to us BUT I'd prefer they had no connection to that bucket shop but it is what it is , sorry for not turning a blind eye
And yes it is an immature attitude but ffs we are talking about 11 men running around kicking a football when did sensible maturity ever come in to following a football team
And I tell you how mature I am on my bbm messenger and whatsapp profile picture I already have a picture of BP just as I did JR and SCP I'm 43 years young and a father of 4 , if that isn't immaturely pathetic I don't know what is !!!!!
no-one likes us
apart from half of charlton life
I fully expect Peeters to be appointed today/tomorrow and of course my default position with any new manager is to give them 100% support, but I can't pretend I'm not very, very concerned at what's happening at our club.
But Riga presumably DOES share the vision, and because of that & the fact he was known/trusted by RD, it also meant that Riga's view that Thuram etc were not good enough was accepted by RD and the network scouts. At that point we all seemed to be in a good place, and I couldn't see any argument for not continuing with Riga. Saying "well Peeters is even better" cuts no ice with me, at some point you have to value continuity and team/club spirit.
RD obviously disagrees, let's hope he's right....
At Charlton, the 40-year-old Belgian coach, who played as a player in the Netherlands Roda JC and Vitesse, the successor to José Riga. Waasland-Beveren received by registered letter of the contract termination Peeters and get a leg up fee.
'll Soon introduce their new coach. Lokeren Harm van Veldhoven's top candidate.
*Out of Charlton managers who've had at least one full season's worth games.
I hate all these 'facts and figures' as they are often used as a stick to beat with.
For example, a lot of Powell's wins would have come in a very easy League 1....Curbishley further down the list spent many years trying to win against very good Premiership teams....Is / Was Powell a better manager?
I would suggest that by using facts and figures, you are also attempting to 're-write history' ?!