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Roberto Martinez

Addick Addict
Addick Addict Posts: 39,766
edited May 2012 in Other Football and Sports
Has been given permission to talk to Liverpool. I hope, if he signs on the dotted line, that this Club give him the time and resources he deserves because, if they do, I'm sure he will be a success.
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  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,181
    Has been given permission to talk to Liverpool. I hope, if he signs on the dotted line, that this Club give him the time and resources he deserves because, if they do, I'm sure he will be a success.
    I totally agree. I have long admired him. The work he did at Swansea was carried on by Brendan Rogers and Wigan this last month or so have finally started to get the results of his work.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Deserves a crack at a club with a realistic chance of doing more than just 'surviving' each year. Not a fan of Liverpool as a club, but if ever there was a sleeping giant it's them and someone, at somepoint is going to bring back their glory days. Martinez comes across as a dignified man with integrity and boy do his teams play attractive football so it'd be nice to see someone like that handed a crack at a big club after working his apprentiship in England instead yet another manager being imported because it's de rigueur.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,839
    although he did manage the worst team in the premierships for the first 29 games of the season.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    The best odds for him to be the next Liverpool manager are 2/1 .. other bookies have him at 6/4, 6/5 and a few at odds on. I have just staked £50. My gambling losing streak has just GOTTA change !!
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    edited May 2012
    although he did manage the worst team in the premierships for the first 29 games of the season.
    Amazing isn't it. If Wigan's season was the other way round and they had a fantastic start and terrible end he wouldn't be considered for this job. Why is it that every year they seem to have a dreadful first half, everyone says they are certs to go down yet they always stay up? Got to look towards the manager, both for getting them into that position in the first place and then the ability to drag them out of it. I have no idea how it will go for him at Liverpool, my gut feeling though is that it is a bit of a car crash waiting to happen.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    although he did manage the worst team in the premierships for the first 29 games of the season.
    Amazing isn't it. If Wigan's season was the other way round and they had a fantastic start and terrible end he wouldn't be considered for this job. Why is it that every year they seem to have a dreadful first half, everyone says they are certs to go down yet they always stay up? Got to look towards the manager, both for getting them into that position in the first place and then the ability to drag them out of it. I have no idea how it will go for him at Liverpool, my gut feeling though is that it is a bit of a car crash waiting to happen.
    They lose most of their best players each summer and have to rebuild on a shoe string so there is inevitably a certain amount of settling in involved, especially when you insist on playing in such a specific way.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    He certainly sets his teams up to play football how it should be played but being given the time to change the ethos and playing style and the support for when his impact is not instantaneous is something I doubt the fans and board will allow him. Pity.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    although he did manage the worst team in the premierships for the first 29 games of the season.
    Amazing isn't it. If Wigan's season was the other way round and they had a fantastic start and terrible end he wouldn't be considered for this job. Why is it that every year they seem to have a dreadful first half, everyone says they are certs to go down yet they always stay up? Got to look towards the manager, both for getting them into that position in the first place and then the ability to drag them out of it. I have no idea how it will go for him at Liverpool, my gut feeling though is that it is a bit of a car crash waiting to happen.
    They lose most of their best players each summer and have to rebuild on a shoe string so there is inevitably a certain amount of settling in involved, especially when you insist on playing in such a specific way.
    Good point but last season the only significant player they lost was N'Zogbia, fair enough for them that's a fairly big loss but essentially only 1 player and they did get a decent fee for him.
  • johnbaker
    johnbaker Posts: 94
    Just wondering if Dave Whealan has pulled a mster strok here. By announcing that Liverpool are taking to him it has put them in an embarassing situation by there targets being public knowledge. I wonder if Whealan has tried to put them off and trying to attracted attention away from Martinez as know the speculation is about who else Liverpool will approach
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,766
    Hopefully he will get his chance at Everton now.
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    If Wigan stay up I reckon there will bigger/better opportunities than Everton.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    he'll go to Citttteeeeeee .. after they sack Rooooberrrrtoooo
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    If he keeps Wigan up another year and stays with them for a season, can see Arsenal come knocking when Wenger's contract runs out.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348

    If he keeps Wigan up another year and stays with them for a season, can see Arsenal come knocking when Wenger's contract runs out.

    you could be right .. whatever, he'll be in even bigger demand than before .. plus .. he seems to be a genuinely nice man
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    I think he'll stay even if they go down. Will be in Europe next year and as said above will go bigger than Everton. Arsenal is a good shout.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Perfect fit for Arsenal.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,843
    Second nicest man in football. Good luck to him.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    Just left Wigan according to ITV Sport.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    Got to be Everton, can't see him at Stoke.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Good luck to him

    Makes a cracking pundit too
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  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    Everton or Malaga ( probably the former, as Malaga is a bit of a basket case ).
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Is he really that good? Yes he kept Wigan up every year (just) but it was him who got them in a relegation battle in the first place. I think Everton should be aiming higher.
  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,608
    Massively overrated manager.

    Wigan had the chance each year to build on their late revivals but each time ended up in trouble and finally got relegated.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,457
    Curbs first half of the season.Martinez second half. CHAMPIONS
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    edited May 2013

    Massively overrated manager.

    Wigan had the chance each year to build on their late revivals but each time ended up in trouble and finally got relegated.

    A little harsh imo.

    The players that usually kept them up he had to sell the following season. Moses, N'Zogbia, Valencia....

    Shite crowds and limited money, he done a good job. Plus an FA Cup isnt too bad on the CV.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,766

    Is he really that good? Yes he kept Wigan up every year (just) but it was him who got them in a relegation battle in the first place. I think Everton should be aiming higher.

    Massively overrated manager.

    Wigan had the chance each year to build on their late revivals but each time ended up in trouble and finally got relegated.

    To judge that you have to take into account what sort of financial state he has left the Club in. Look at Q P R for example and their absurd transfer dealings (plus wages) and then examine the comings and goings at Wigan. The last three seasons they have sold:

    Moses - £9m
    N'Zogbia - £9.5m
    Vallencia - £16m

    All three players were massive influences on Wigan's survival. How long would we have survived had we had to sell a Darren Bent every season? And we struggled to get beyond the third round in the F A Cup let alone win it but we would still argue Curbs would be a good move for some of the Premier League jobs Martinez is being touted for.



  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    Is he really that good? Yes he kept Wigan up every year (just) but it was him who got them in a relegation battle in the first place. I think Everton should be aiming higher.

    Massively overrated manager.

    Wigan had the chance each year to build on their late revivals but each time ended up in trouble and finally got relegated.

    To judge that you have to take into account what sort of financial state he has left the Club in. Look at Q P R for example and their absurd transfer dealings (plus wages) and then examine the comings and goings at Wigan. The last three seasons they have sold:

    Moses - £9m
    N'Zogbia - £9.5m
    Vallencia - £16m

    All three players were massive influences on Wigan's survival. How long would we have survived had we had to sell a Darren Bent every season? And we struggled to get beyond the third round in the F A Cup let alone win it but we would still argue Curbs would be a good move for some of the Premier League jobs Martinez is being touted for.



    Good point and you could add Rodallega to that list too.
  • Paddy Powell
    Paddy Powell Posts: 2,842
    edited May 2013

    Is he really that good? Yes he kept Wigan up every year (just) but it was him who got them in a relegation battle in the first place. I think Everton should be aiming higher.

    Massively overrated manager.

    Wigan had the chance each year to build on their late revivals but each time ended up in trouble and finally got relegated.

    To judge that you have to take into account what sort of financial state he has left the Club in. Look at Q P R for example and their absurd transfer dealings (plus wages) and then examine the comings and goings at Wigan. The last three seasons they have sold:

    Moses - £9m
    N'Zogbia - £9.5m
    Vallencia - £16m

    All three players were massive influences on Wigan's survival. How long would we have survived had we had to sell a Darren Bent every season? And we struggled to get beyond the third round in the F A Cup let alone win it but we would still argue Curbs would be a good move for some of the Premier League jobs Martinez is being touted for.



    Good point and you could add Rodallega to that list too.
    ..and Diame.

    They've lost a lot of talented players.
  • KidFlash
    KidFlash Posts: 51
    Swisdom said:

    Good luck to him

    Makes a cracking pundit too

    ESPN (the US version) used him as part of their Euro 2012 pundit crew. Came away highly impressed.

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    KidFlash said:

    Swisdom said:

    Good luck to him

    Makes a cracking pundit too

    ESPN (the US version) used him as part of their Euro 2012 pundit crew. Came away highly impressed.

    He's on the La Liga show all the time and does come across well. Presented by our very own Scott Minto too.