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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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Thanks. The story I heard centred on his agent. However it might be respectful not to go over the details again, since the agent concerned committed suicide the following year. He was only in his early 30s. And it would not contradict your info about Cooper, both could be true. I'm just a little sceptical about Chelsea asking us to pay a bit more, it doesnt seem to fit with how they run that side of their operation. They want to make money from it with big transfer fees for players who never became 1st team regulars there. Ian Maatsen is a good example of that, including our role in it.Desmond Oulu said:
What I was told at the time was that Cooper was very impressed with him in our match against them at The Valley, followed his progress and enquired with Chelsea about the possibility of taking him on loan for the second half of the season. They offered to pay all of his wages plus a loan fee (which we were not). Chelsea then asked us to pay a little bit more (not even match Swansea) as, as you say, they were very happy with his progress.PragueAddick said:
Quite interested to know more about this, as I put a bit of effort into trying to find out what was behind it, but my main source was a bit less solid than I would have liked. Nevertheless this is significantly different to the story I heard. I do understand that Chelsea treat their huge number of loanees as effectively a revenue stream, with its own dedicated staff, largely ex Chelsea pros, but we have had good season long loans from them before (da Silva) and after (Maatsen) and no such complications occurred. And when he arrived I don't think Chelsea expected him to be an immediate starter, I heard they had been delighted with his progress in that short time. So asking for a "small increase in wages" seems a bit petty and not in keeping with the way they've done things, both with Charlton and other clubs. They knew we didn't have a pot to piss in back at the start of the season, too.Desmond Oulu said:
The embargo didn't help. Even so, under the embargo we could still sign loans...the fact we ended up with shit loan players in January is because somebody decided to spend the club's money on himself instead. Chelsea said we could keep Gallagher if we paid a small increase in the percentage of his wages. Said man refused and Chelsea sent him to Wales.Talal said:
Or you could say the injuries relegated us. No disrespect to them as they tried their best but what chance did we have with Dempsey and Vennings in the championship.The Red Robin said:Worth remembering losing Gallagher as a loanee practically relegated us.
We were under an embargo because of him. Less money spent on himself would've meant better loans in Jan and keeping Conor. Matt fucking Southall is why we got relegated. He is why we had to play kids. Yes, 🐍 could've saved us, but we never should have been in that position the first place.
For the avoidance of doubt I am no apologist for Matt fucking Southall.
Caveat is that I'm passing on what I heard five years ago so perhaps I should have prefaced my comment with that. I am not ITK and do not profess to be.
One person who will know is Steve Gallen. If anyone gets to meet him in an informal environment in the future, maybe he might after this time be prepared to shed some light on it.0 -
We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?2
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We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?0 -
Jones did say the ' door isn't closed' for Joe Bennett.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?1 -
Think Bennett on a year's deal would be pretty shrewd.Richard J said:
Jones did say the ' door isn't closed' for Joe Bennett.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?9 -
Not fair to throw him in week in week out if Edwards gets injured long term. Too young and it’s not his natural positionCB1 said:
We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?5 -
I think with our asymmetric formation, we need a defender there.CB1 said:
We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?10 -
Absolutely spot on .Gisappointed said:
I think with our asymmetric formation, we need a defender there.CB1 said:
We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?0 -
Not sure it is fair to drop Fullah into a position he hasn't played in much in the champ, don't want to damage his confidenceCB1 said:
We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?2 -
The way Enslin was skinned the other day for the Stevenage goal suggests he isn't ready for the champGisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?4 -
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I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover. Apter looked shot towards the end and Ramsey will have already played at RCB so won’t be fresh legs6
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Would seem the obvious move.MarcusH26 said:
Think Bennett on a year's deal would be pretty shrewd.Richard J said:
Jones did say the ' door isn't closed' for Joe Bennett.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?2 -
I agree in such a high-intense role as wing back it is always nice to be able to change them in the gamePelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover. Apter looked shot towards the end and Ramsey will have already played at RCB so won’t be fresh legs2 -
Given the versatility of Fullah in Pre-Season, I wouldn't be surprised to see him deployed as cover over there if need be.Pelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover. Apter looked shot towards the end and Ramsey will have already played at RCB so won’t be fresh legs1 -
The good thing is that Bell is a very good wingback and his replacement at LCB is Gillesphey, who is very unlucky to not be playing based on his performances for us last season. I'm not a fan of using versatility in place of having enough players but in this case we've probably got enough cover given our surplus of centre backs16
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Agree, it might be how Fullah is eased into the team.ForeverAddickted said:
Given the versatility of Fullah in Pre-Season, I wouldn't be surprised to see him deployed as cover over there if need be.Pelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover. Apter looked shot towards the end and Ramsey will have already played at RCB so won’t be fresh legs
Enslin could even be better off there vs LWB, he played as a RW at a younger age and our set up means he could focus on his attacking strengths. I’d be concerned if he was on the left as he’s not a natural defender like Edwards.0 -
I think we're hoping a mixture of Bell on the left and Costello and Ramsay on the right is enough cover for Edwards and Apter. A solid wing back who is ok on either side would complete the puzzle11
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At a meeting at Bromley Addicks, Gallen put the blame firmly at the feet of Southall, what Chelsea had asked for.was in his opinion not unreasonablePragueAddick said:
Thanks. The story I heard centred on his agent. However it might be respectful not to go over the details again, since the agent concerned committed suicide the following year. He was only in his early 30s. And it would not contradict your info about Cooper, both could be true. I'm just a little sceptical about Chelsea asking us to pay a bit more, it doesnt seem to fit with how they run that side of their operation. They want to make money from it with big transfer fees for players who never became 1st team regulars there. Ian Maatsen is a good example of that, including our role in it.Desmond Oulu said:
What I was told at the time was that Cooper was very impressed with him in our match against them at The Valley, followed his progress and enquired with Chelsea about the possibility of taking him on loan for the second half of the season. They offered to pay all of his wages plus a loan fee (which we were not). Chelsea then asked us to pay a little bit more (not even match Swansea) as, as you say, they were very happy with his progress.PragueAddick said:
Quite interested to know more about this, as I put a bit of effort into trying to find out what was behind it, but my main source was a bit less solid than I would have liked. Nevertheless this is significantly different to the story I heard. I do understand that Chelsea treat their huge number of loanees as effectively a revenue stream, with its own dedicated staff, largely ex Chelsea pros, but we have had good season long loans from them before (da Silva) and after (Maatsen) and no such complications occurred. And when he arrived I don't think Chelsea expected him to be an immediate starter, I heard they had been delighted with his progress in that short time. So asking for a "small increase in wages" seems a bit petty and not in keeping with the way they've done things, both with Charlton and other clubs. They knew we didn't have a pot to piss in back at the start of the season, too.Desmond Oulu said:
The embargo didn't help. Even so, under the embargo we could still sign loans...the fact we ended up with shit loan players in January is because somebody decided to spend the club's money on himself instead. Chelsea said we could keep Gallagher if we paid a small increase in the percentage of his wages. Said man refused and Chelsea sent him to Wales.Talal said:
Or you could say the injuries relegated us. No disrespect to them as they tried their best but what chance did we have with Dempsey and Vennings in the championship.The Red Robin said:Worth remembering losing Gallagher as a loanee practically relegated us.
We were under an embargo because of him. Less money spent on himself would've meant better loans in Jan and keeping Conor. Matt fucking Southall is why we got relegated. He is why we had to play kids. Yes, 🐍 could've saved us, but we never should have been in that position the first place.
For the avoidance of doubt I am no apologist for Matt fucking Southall.
Caveat is that I'm passing on what I heard five years ago so perhaps I should have prefaced my comment with that. I am not ITK and do not profess to be.
One person who will know is Steve Gallen. If anyone gets to meet him in an informal environment in the future, maybe he might after this time be prepared to shed some light on it.7 -
Remember that. Southall refused to pay the extra but why doesn't that surprise me.JohnnyH2 said:
At a meeting at Bromley Addicks, Gallen put the blame firmly at the feet of Southall, what Chelsea had asked for.was in his opinion not unreasonablePragueAddick said:
Thanks. The story I heard centred on his agent. However it might be respectful not to go over the details again, since the agent concerned committed suicide the following year. He was only in his early 30s. And it would not contradict your info about Cooper, both could be true. I'm just a little sceptical about Chelsea asking us to pay a bit more, it doesnt seem to fit with how they run that side of their operation. They want to make money from it with big transfer fees for players who never became 1st team regulars there. Ian Maatsen is a good example of that, including our role in it.Desmond Oulu said:
What I was told at the time was that Cooper was very impressed with him in our match against them at The Valley, followed his progress and enquired with Chelsea about the possibility of taking him on loan for the second half of the season. They offered to pay all of his wages plus a loan fee (which we were not). Chelsea then asked us to pay a little bit more (not even match Swansea) as, as you say, they were very happy with his progress.PragueAddick said:
Quite interested to know more about this, as I put a bit of effort into trying to find out what was behind it, but my main source was a bit less solid than I would have liked. Nevertheless this is significantly different to the story I heard. I do understand that Chelsea treat their huge number of loanees as effectively a revenue stream, with its own dedicated staff, largely ex Chelsea pros, but we have had good season long loans from them before (da Silva) and after (Maatsen) and no such complications occurred. And when he arrived I don't think Chelsea expected him to be an immediate starter, I heard they had been delighted with his progress in that short time. So asking for a "small increase in wages" seems a bit petty and not in keeping with the way they've done things, both with Charlton and other clubs. They knew we didn't have a pot to piss in back at the start of the season, too.Desmond Oulu said:
The embargo didn't help. Even so, under the embargo we could still sign loans...the fact we ended up with shit loan players in January is because somebody decided to spend the club's money on himself instead. Chelsea said we could keep Gallagher if we paid a small increase in the percentage of his wages. Said man refused and Chelsea sent him to Wales.Talal said:
Or you could say the injuries relegated us. No disrespect to them as they tried their best but what chance did we have with Dempsey and Vennings in the championship.The Red Robin said:Worth remembering losing Gallagher as a loanee practically relegated us.
We were under an embargo because of him. Less money spent on himself would've meant better loans in Jan and keeping Conor. Matt fucking Southall is why we got relegated. He is why we had to play kids. Yes, 🐍 could've saved us, but we never should have been in that position the first place.
For the avoidance of doubt I am no apologist for Matt fucking Southall.
Caveat is that I'm passing on what I heard five years ago so perhaps I should have prefaced my comment with that. I am not ITK and do not profess to be.
One person who will know is Steve Gallen. If anyone gets to meet him in an informal environment in the future, maybe he might after this time be prepared to shed some light on it.
Heard from elsewhere that CG didn't want the move and was in tears leaving Sparrows Lane.12 -
RWB for me is the final piece. Signing a LWB would be unfair on gillesphey, I think Bell has rightly taken his spot, but moving him out wide when required and Gillesphey starting at CB would be best for the team. Would hopefully keep everyone happy. Rankin-costello to cover/replace docherty and a new RWB for when Apter is spent, like the last 10 mins today. Possible loan with Assimwe returning in Jan if he keeps up his performances?4
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Reports from Luton that his two hamstring injuries had blunted his pace seem wide of the mark, so he could do the LWB role.
But I'd still be concerned about Macca at the back with our new higher line. Him vs Ayew with the ball on the ground, is a thing of nightmares4 -
Not sure if he’s ready but worth noting he played two games in a day having played for the under 21s, in 28 degrees heat. Not sure we can fully judge based on a 15 minute cameo with that context.IR94 said:
The way Enslin was skinned the other day for the Stevenage goal suggests he isn't ready for the champGisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?12 -
I was wrong.MartinCAFC said:
Agreed £7m is ridiculous which is why you would set it the asking price in January still with 18 months left on his contract at that point. January is a seller’s market and if a Prem team is desperate enough they’ll pay it. Or in reality you meet on say £4m or so.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
7m is ridiculous but equally so is 1.5-2m.cabbles said:
£7m for Ramsay? That’s ridiculous. Can’t see it myself, if he went I think we’d get 1.5-2 at a push. Happy to be proven wrong but I don’t know how you can get to a figure of 7mShootersHillGuru said:Gutted if Ramsay left but I think we need to be asking a minimum of £7 million come January. Realistically he’s going at some point and I’d like to think / expect that his leaving would fund a couple of signings of very decent quality. It’s all about squad building window on window but the sad reality is our top talent is always going to be cherry picked. Was ever thus.
Somewhere in the middle would be more realistic if he has a good first half of the season.£1.5m no chance unless Roland was selling.
£7m for Ramsay isn’t ridiculous, it isn’t enough now.17 -
Double his wages on a four year contract with an option could double a prospective fee (with an exit clause). Could he turn that down?
Doubt even then he'd be our highest paid player.4 -
Fuk UPelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover.
I have a yen for him.2 -
Ibrahim is that you?CB1 said:
We have also got a played called Ibrahim Fullah. He is just a tiny bit of a player.Gisappointed said:We may need urgent LWB cover before window closes. Any in the frame? Is Enslin still here?0 -
Someone has celebrated the 0-0 a bit too much...wolfgang said:
Fuk UPelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover.6 -
Then it's not enough.Gisappointed said:Double his wages on a four year contract with an option could double a prospective fee (with an exit clause). Could he turn that down?
Doubt even then he'd be our highest paid player.5 -
cafc-4-life said:
Someone has celebrated the 0-0 a bit too much...wolfgang said:
Fuk UPelling1993 said:I personally think RWB is more the place we need cover.Yuya Fukuda
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Excellent point at Bristol City and if Edwards is out injured like he was at the beginning of last season then Bell replaces Josh and Gillesphey slots in as LCB as he did so well for the 2nd half of last season.
I'm going to email Real Madrid and recommend they take a look at Kayne ✅ Ramsay ✅ straight away.
Many of our posters are upset they can only give our talented RCB a 10.
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