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POST-MATCH THREAD: Leyton Orient v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 1st March 2025: KO 15:00
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Wasn't that Robert Fleck? @LargeAddickLargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw0 -
Fair enough if true but I see players giving it large per se to opposition fans and I don't like it.se9addick said:
Unfortunately the old south London adage of “don’t give it if you can’t take it” has been lost in modern society. See as an example fans who’ll give an opposition player dogs abuse all match and then lose their minds if said player makes some minor gesture towards them after he inevitably scores a goal.LargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
I think that players need to be able to take a bit of stick and shouldn't react. The trouble is if that stick turns to real abuse. However, many players cup the ear or make gestures to opposition fans as routine nowadays and that's not on imo.
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As far as I'm concerned Gilbert has gained us 5 points with his deliveries already.Has anyone had a bigger impact versus minutes played this season? He also got the brilliant winning assist vs Peterborough. I don't know if he has the Berry tendency to get into the box, but he seems to have a lot of qualities for linking the play up, plus the brilliant set pieces of course.5 -
League: No Cup: All three gamesse9addick said:
I don’t think Gilbert has actually played 90 minutes in his entire career.SteveACS said:
We have had Gilbert at the club for a month. And how often has he played 90 minutes this season?JamesSeed said:
He was easily my MotM. As I may already have said, I’d love to see a clip reel of all of his contributions on Saturday. His passing is crisp and accurate, and he’s comfortable on the ball. Can’t see how he doesn’t start on Tuesday, but if he doesn’t, it’s still great when he comes on as sub.jamesking93 said:Someone has uploaded the last seven minutes of the game up on YouTube (in two seperate videos). The amount of positive contributions from Gilbert during that time is superb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jht7rmjyG3I
89:30 - winning a duel and releasing Small, followed by receiving the ball back and playing a beautiful crossfield pass to Campbell.
91 - receives the ball after some good work by Aneke and plays a great through ball for Small who wins the corner.
91:34 - takes the corner for Gilleshpey to score.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFhOcCTthQ
94:30 - wins the ball on the edge of the box and keeps it alive by playing it out to Ramsay.
95:06 - brilliant block on the edge of our own box.
95:24 - wins a header to keep the ball, in the processing putting Small through to win a corner.
96 - takes the corner for Ramsay to win it.
Has anyone had a bigger impact versus minutes played this season? He also got the brilliant winning assist vs Peterborough. I don't know if he has the Berry tendency to get into the box, but he seems to have a lot of qualities for linking the play up, plus the brilliant set pieces of course.
Berry has been here all season. Therefore is used to NJ fitness regime, and has started a LOT of games this season.
Start Gilbert, against a team that is fully fit, and as soon as he misplaces a pass, or get's caught in possession, no doubt the fans will soon be on his back!
And we're playing a team that it's important to get a result against, if we want to keep our play off momentum going.
If we had nothing to play for, fine, experiment a little. But every game at the moment is incredibly important.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The only change is Doc for Karoy. Let Gilbert come on as a substitute, against a tiring opposition, and let him strut his stuff...
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Saw this tweet (in the same vain as what you are saying). Little did we know about Leyton Os recent problems.stop_shouting said:Spent the whole day on X and insta watching various reels and videos. Play off finals aside, im not sure ive ever seen a reaction by a team to a win like that.
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Good feature. Enjoyed that.fenaddick said:Pretty big focus on us/the game on today’s NTT20
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/not-the-top-20-podcast/id1112915286?i=10006974382561 -
There was one pass he made cross field from about a third of the way inside Orient’s half, all the way to the corner of the penalty area on the other side of the pitch and it landed almost on TC’s foot. Must have been a 40-50 yard pass on a sixpence.JamesSeed said:
He was easily my MotM. As I may already have said, I’d love to see a clip reel of all of his contributions on Saturday. His passing is crisp and accurate, and he’s comfortable on the ball. Can’t see how he doesn’t start on Tuesday, but if he doesn’t, it’s still great when he comes on as sub.jamesking93 said:Someone has uploaded the last seven minutes of the game up on YouTube (in two seperate videos). The amount of positive contributions from Gilbert during that time is superb:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jht7rmjyG3I
89:30 - winning a duel and releasing Small, followed by receiving the ball back and playing a beautiful crossfield pass to Campbell.
91 - receives the ball after some good work by Aneke and plays a great through ball for Small who wins the corner.
91:34 - takes the corner for Gilleshpey to score.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFhOcCTthQ
94:30 - wins the ball on the edge of the box and keeps it alive by playing it out to Ramsay.
95:06 - brilliant block on the edge of our own box.
95:24 - wins a header to keep the ball, in the processing putting Small through to win a corner.
96 - takes the corner for Ramsay to win it.
Has anyone had a bigger impact versus minutes played this season? He also got the brilliant winning assist vs Peterborough. I don't know if he has the Berry tendency to get into the box, but he seems to have a lot of qualities for linking the play up, plus the brilliant set pieces of course.
Beckham-esque. Not getting carried away at all.4 -
No, Robert Fleck at another reserve game apologised to Dad after Dad pulled him up for swearing too much.jimmymelrose said:
Wasn't that Robert Fleck? @LargeAddickLargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw0 -
Got a 'wow' out of me, tbh.Callumcafc said:
There was one pass he made cross field from about a third of the way inside Orient’s half, all the way to the corner of the penalty area on the other side of the pitch and it landed almost on TC’s foot. Must have been a 40-50 yard pass on a sixpence.JamesSeed said:
He was easily my MotM. As I may already have said, I’d love to see a clip reel of all of his contributions on Saturday. His passing is crisp and accurate, and he’s comfortable on the ball. Can’t see how he doesn’t start on Tuesday, but if he doesn’t, it’s still great when he comes on as sub.jamesking93 said:Someone has uploaded the last seven minutes of the game up on YouTube (in two seperate videos). The amount of positive contributions from Gilbert during that time is superb:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jht7rmjyG3I
89:30 - winning a duel and releasing Small, followed by receiving the ball back and playing a beautiful crossfield pass to Campbell.
91 - receives the ball after some good work by Aneke and plays a great through ball for Small who wins the corner.
91:34 - takes the corner for Gilleshpey to score.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFhOcCTthQ
94:30 - wins the ball on the edge of the box and keeps it alive by playing it out to Ramsay.
95:06 - brilliant block on the edge of our own box.
95:24 - wins a header to keep the ball, in the processing putting Small through to win a corner.
96 - takes the corner for Ramsay to win it.
Has anyone had a bigger impact versus minutes played this season? He also got the brilliant winning assist vs Peterborough. I don't know if he has the Berry tendency to get into the box, but he seems to have a lot of qualities for linking the play up, plus the brilliant set pieces of course.
Beckham-esque. Not getting carried away at all.0 -
Good bit of coverage in this Not The Top 20 chat. Lots of stats.
Starts at 06:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ixaMnmHNc
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Goes on for almost 12 minutes as well. A good listen. 👍DRAddick said:Good bit of coverage in this Not The Top 20 chat. Lots of stats.
Starts at 06:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ixaMnmHNc0 -
https://x.com/leytonorientfc/status/1896863186495934703?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gThey’re still going on about how our fans and players celebrated winning7
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Alex Mitchell playing for U21s again so won’t be involved2
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As if their players wouldnt do the same if the roles/scoreline was reversed. The lemons are bitter north of the ThamesCallumcafc said:https://x.com/leytonorientfc/status/1896863186495934703?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gThey’re still going on about how our fans and players celebrated winning
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Feel very sorry for Mitchell. Really did nothing wrong to lose his spot, it's just that Ramsey is absolutely mustard and fits that hybrid RCB to RB perfectly.fenaddick said:Alex Mitchell playing for U21s again so won’t be involved14 -
As a thank you for their gracious hospitality we’ll do Orient a favour and have Galbraith off them in the summer. Would pair perfectly with Coventry in a Championship midfield. Thanks lads.2
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And if/when Ramsay does move on to better things, Zach Mitchell and quite possibly Joshua Laqeretabua are seen as having bags of potential and could also fit that role well, so it's far from certain AM is actually the next in line despite being a very decent player in his own right.Pelling1993 said:
Feel very sorry for Mitchell. Really did nothing wrong to lose his spot, it's just that Ramsey is absolutely mustard and fits that hybrid RCB to RB perfectly.fenaddick said:Alex Mitchell playing for U21s again so won’t be involved
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Hand gestures bad, sexual assault ok.jimmymelrose said:
Fair enough if true but I see players giving it large per se to opposition fans and I don't like it.se9addick said:
Unfortunately the old south London adage of “don’t give it if you can’t take it” has been lost in modern society. See as an example fans who’ll give an opposition player dogs abuse all match and then lose their minds if said player makes some minor gesture towards them after he inevitably scores a goal.LargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
I think that players need to be able to take a bit of stick and shouldn't react. The trouble is if that stick turns to real abuse. However, many players cup the ear or make gestures to opposition fans as routine nowadays and that's not on imo.So odd.2 -
It's not harming anyone. It's basically pantomime theatre.jimmymelrose said:
Fair enough if true but I see players giving it large per se to opposition fans and I don't like it.se9addick said:
Unfortunately the old south London adage of “don’t give it if you can’t take it” has been lost in modern society. See as an example fans who’ll give an opposition player dogs abuse all match and then lose their minds if said player makes some minor gesture towards them after he inevitably scores a goal.LargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
I think that players need to be able to take a bit of stick and shouldn't react. The trouble is if that stick turns to real abuse. However, many players cup the ear or make gestures to opposition fans as routine nowadays and that's not on imo.1 -
Alex Mitchell might be better suited for the central CB position if Lloyd Jones is missing7
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They'd have been exactly the same had the boot been on the other foot and they scored the winner with the last kick of the game...sour grapes numpty...Callumcafc said:https://x.com/leytonorientfc/status/1896863186495934703?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gThey’re still going on about how our fans and players celebrated winning1 -
Not good enough with the ball at his feet.killerandflash said:Alex Mitchell might be better suited for the central CB position if Lloyd Jones is missing
If Jones was missing, I'd move Ramsay into the middle, and Mitchell as RCB.0 -
The defender in the centre has to be dominant in the air, as he'll be up against big forwards.SteveACS said:
Not good enough with the ball at his feet.killerandflash said:Alex Mitchell might be better suited for the central CB position if Lloyd Jones is missing
If Jones was missing, I'd move Ramsay into the middle, and Mitchell as RCB.2 -
Very interesting. Thanks for the heads up.fenaddick said:Pretty big focus on us/the game on today’s NTT20
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Didn’t they turn down over a million in the Jan window from Swansea?Callumcafc said:As a thank you for their gracious hospitality we’ll do Orient a favour and have Galbraith off them in the summer. Would pair perfectly with Coventry in a Championship midfield. Thanks lads.1 -
Would say the rcb and lcb need to be more comfortable in possession than the middle man tbh.SteveACS said:
Not good enough with the ball at his feet.killerandflash said:Alex Mitchell might be better suited for the central CB position if Lloyd Jones is missing
If Jones was missing, I'd move Ramsay into the middle, and Mitchell as RCB.
They need to help bringing the ball out as Ramsay does.1 -
Just watched the club's social media clip ahead of Stockport which shows highlights of the win at Orient. The angle we see Ramsay's winner from shows the stand behind that goal and as it goes in you see the same chap (I think) from one of the clips someone shared from that end of one of ours legging it out the back of the stand to celebrate. He's seen bounding down the stairs from up the back. Made me chuckle that we're getting to see his entire journey before he presumably starts punching the air outside.0
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I’d like to think I have the emotional maturity to be able to handle someone cupping their ear or making a gesture in my general direction. If you can’t cope with that then the trials and tribulations of life are going to be a real struggle.jimmymelrose said:
Fair enough if true but I see players giving it large per se to opposition fans and I don't like it.se9addick said:
Unfortunately the old south London adage of “don’t give it if you can’t take it” has been lost in modern society. See as an example fans who’ll give an opposition player dogs abuse all match and then lose their minds if said player makes some minor gesture towards them after he inevitably scores a goal.LargeAddick said:
Mitchell was dishing it out to one set of fans at The Valley earlier in the season. I’m not fussed either way but dish it out you have to expect it back. Just like at a reserve game at Welling back in the day I gave Cascarino stick and he turned round and shouted ‘shut up fatty’ to me. Didn’t bother me, found it funny, I dished it out, I got it back.lordromford said:
It’s an odd one this, because generally I don’t think we do goad the oppo fans that much. Maybe a bit, but it’s not something I’ve noticed when watching on tv. Happy to be corrected by those who go to games, but that’s my impression.jimmymelrose said:
I just wish that our players wouldn't goad the home fans. I find it unclassy and unnecessary.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/richmarriner/status/1895943754990961014?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0gGreat clips of the goals and resulting celebrationsMakes me wonder if there was a particularly nasty element in the Orient crowd yesterday? It’d surprise me because I’ve always felt Os fans were alright. I know NJ mentioned getting dogs abuse, but he was in a totally different part of the ground from where our players went to do their shithousing.
As an aside, what was Thierry trying to do when he sat down with his back to them? Ref pretty much immediately told him to pack it in, but was he making a bit of a point?fenaddick said:Second goal and some excellent shithousing
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1896160053926724033?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
I think that players need to be able to take a bit of stick and shouldn't react. The trouble is if that stick turns to real abuse. However, many players cup the ear or make gestures to opposition fans as routine nowadays and that's not on imo.1
