And one of those supposedly riding that train is a minority owner in himself. (Whether that's token shares or actual money is another matter)
The point is there's not much gravy to be had out of being part of the SMT at Charlton, it's a different world from when Southall was milking us dry for Range Rovers and apartments, but I think the recent history of that has clouded the judgement of many on here
Agreed, but I'd guess that Methven, Rodwell and Scott each are getting paid salaries more than 99% of the fans that went to the Reading game.
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
I'm not sure if you're losing the plot or are starting to a be a WUM? I used to take your posts seriously. But I now think you're willing to "die on your hill" since insisting it was the right thing to do to get rid of Alfie May.
This has now extended to the league table is irrelevent in January and getting rid of your best players is the right policy, because replacements are ten a penny.
I think you're starting to challenge Ronnie Moore's posts.
Apologies, but that's what I honestly think and I'm not meaning to be provocative or rude. I'm simply being honest.
Just yesterday I said I would take May over Godden if it was a straight swap so I don’t think there’s any hill I’m willing to die on.
Perhaps I’ll post as if I’m taking a polar opposite view at times purely because I can’t believe how negative some posters are willing to be. You’d think we’d already sold Jones and Leaburn and been relegated to non-league.
If you met me in person I think you’d be surprised by how not rose-tinted I am about the team and club in general. I spend enough time being annoyed about losing to Crawley, I try to find some positives when I’m on an internet forum discussing us. Otherwise I’d probably try to disconnect from Charlton completely to save my mental health.
To me League One is non league. And we have been stuck here for what, five seasons. It’s a fecking disgrace.
My son pointed out last night, whilst we were watching yet another reply on Sky of the play off final win from 2019, that Sunderland are now top 6 in the Championship. How fortunes have changed on those 5 and a half years.
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
I'm not sure if you're losing the plot or are starting to a be a WUM? I used to take your posts seriously. But I now think you're willing to "die on your hill" since insisting it was the right thing to do to get rid of Alfie May.
This has now extended to the league table is irrelevent in January and getting rid of your best players is the right policy, because replacements are ten a penny.
I think you're starting to challenge Ronnie Moore's posts.
Apologies, but that's what I honestly think and I'm not meaning to be provocative or rude. I'm simply being honest.
Just yesterday I said I would take May over Godden if it was a straight swap so I don’t think there’s any hill I’m willing to die on.
Perhaps I’ll post as if I’m taking a polar opposite view at times purely because I can’t believe how negative some posters are willing to be. You’d think we’d already sold Jones and Leaburn and been relegated to non-league.
If you met me in person I think you’d be surprised by how not rose-tinted I am about the team and club in general. I spend enough time being annoyed about losing to Crawley, I try to find some positives when I’m on an internet forum discussing us. Otherwise I’d probably try to disconnect from Charlton completely to save my mental health.
Is this really about negativity, though? It seems more about accepting reality.
It’s not negative to say that losing a key player like Jones would be a bad scenario - it’s just acknowledging the obvious. That’s not pessimism, it’s sanity.
“Losing Jones would be bad” is not the same as “rather than making signings we’re worrying about losing our players, we’re going nowhere fast”.
The first would be reasonable, the second is full of negative sentiment making predictions about a transfer window that we’re not even 25% of the way through.
Once again there is no evidence at all that Jones is going in fact the opposite, contact talks are taking place ,Jones will be here after the window shuts , apart from the players Jones wants out unless we get offered ridiculous money for any of our players ( talking millions ) there will be no surprise sales , we don’t need to sell .
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
I'm not sure if you're losing the plot or are starting to a be a WUM? I used to take your posts seriously. But I now think you're willing to "die on your hill" since insisting it was the right thing to do to get rid of Alfie May.
This has now extended to the league table is irrelevent in January and getting rid of your best players is the right policy, because replacements are ten a penny.
I think you're starting to challenge Ronnie Moore's posts.
Apologies, but that's what I honestly think and I'm not meaning to be provocative or rude. I'm simply being honest.
Just yesterday I said I would take May over Godden if it was a straight swap so I don’t think there’s any hill I’m willing to die on.
Perhaps I’ll post as if I’m taking a polar opposite view at times purely because I can’t believe how negative some posters are willing to be. You’d think we’d already sold Jones and Leaburn and been relegated to non-league.
If you met me in person I think you’d be surprised by how not rose-tinted I am about the team and club in general. I spend enough time being annoyed about losing to Crawley, I try to find some positives when I’m on an internet forum discussing us. Otherwise I’d probably try to disconnect from Charlton completely to save my mental health.
Is this really about negativity, though? It seems more about accepting reality.
It’s not negative to say that losing a key player like Jones would be a bad scenario - it’s just acknowledging the obvious. That’s not pessimism, it’s sanity.
“Losing Jones would be bad” is not the same as “rather than making signings we’re worrying about losing our players, we’re going nowhere fast”.
The first would be reasonable, the second is full of negative sentiment making predictions about a transfer window that we’re not even 25% of the way through.
Once again there is no evidence at all that Jones is going in fact the opposite, contact talks are taking place ,Jones will be here after the window shuts , apart from the players Jones wants out unless we get offered ridiculous money for any of our players ( talking millions ) there will be no surprise sales , we don’t need to sell .
And one of those supposedly riding that train is a minority owner in himself. (Whether that's token shares or actual money is another matter)
The point is there's not much gravy to be had out of being part of the SMT at Charlton, it's a different world from when Southall was milking us dry for Range Rovers and apartments, but I think the recent history of that has clouded the judgement of many on here
We finally have good owners and a structure at the club for the first time in 10/12 years … it’s time to back them and get the club back on stable ground before we can seriously move forward … 12/15 years of poor management and assist stripping is not going to be solved in 12 months … stability is the key both in ownership and manager there a project in place lets give it the time it needs to get this club back in the championship and more important stay there ..
And one of those supposedly riding that train is a minority owner in himself. (Whether that's token shares or actual money is another matter)
The point is there's not much gravy to be had out of being part of the SMT at Charlton, it's a different world from when Southall was milking us dry for Range Rovers and apartments, but I think the recent history of that has clouded the judgement of many on here
We finally have good owners and a structure at the club for the first time in 10/12 years … it’s time to back them and get the club back on stable ground before we can seriously move forward … 12/15 years of poor management and assist stripping is not going to be solved in 12 months … stability is the key both in ownership and manager there a project in place lets give it the time it needs to get this club back in the championship and more important stay there ..
You say we now have good owners and a structure at the club for the first time in 10/12 years. But you have spent most of those 10/12 years defending the owners and structure of the club.
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
I'm not sure if you're losing the plot or are starting to a be a WUM? I used to take your posts seriously. But I now think you're willing to "die on your hill" since insisting it was the right thing to do to get rid of Alfie May.
This has now extended to the league table is irrelevent in January and getting rid of your best players is the right policy, because replacements are ten a penny.
I think you're starting to challenge Ronnie Moore's posts.
Apologies, but that's what I honestly think and I'm not meaning to be provocative or rude. I'm simply being honest.
Just yesterday I said I would take May over Godden if it was a straight swap so I don’t think there’s any hill I’m willing to die on.
Perhaps I’ll post as if I’m taking a polar opposite view at times purely because I can’t believe how negative some posters are willing to be. You’d think we’d already sold Jones and Leaburn and been relegated to non-league.
If you met me in person I think you’d be surprised by how not rose-tinted I am about the team and club in general. I spend enough time being annoyed about losing to Crawley, I try to find some positives when I’m on an internet forum discussing us. Otherwise I’d probably try to disconnect from Charlton completely to save my mental health.
Is this really about negativity, though? It seems more about accepting reality.
It’s not negative to say that losing a key player like Jones would be a bad scenario - it’s just acknowledging the obvious. That’s not pessimism, it’s sanity.
“Losing Jones would be bad” is not the same as “rather than making signings we’re worrying about losing our players, we’re going nowhere fast”.
The first would be reasonable, the second is full of negative sentiment making predictions about a transfer window that we’re not even 25% of the way through.
Once again there is no evidence at all that Jones is going in fact the opposite, contact talks are taking place ,Jones will be here after the window shuts , apart from the players Jones wants out unless we get offered ridiculous money for any of our players ( talking millions ) there will be no surprise sales , we don’t need to sell .
So... catching up over the last 6 pages, for anyone else like me here is the summary:
People be angry at Callum for suggesting that you can pick up good players on free transfers, we need to spend millions or get relegated, the SMT are riding an unprofitable gravy train by being paid a wage and Lloyd Jones and Leaburn have been sold and not replaced (soon, maybe).
So... catching up over the last 6 pages, for anyone else like me here is the summary:
People be angry at Callum for suggesting that you can pick up good players on free transfers, we need to spend millions or get relegated, the SMT are riding an unprofitable gravy train by being paid a wage and Lloyd Jones and Leaburn have been sold and not replaced (soon, maybe).
You forgot....but everything is fine, nobody is being sold everything and we have the best structure ever.
If we want promotion then we need to start building a squad that’s stronger after each window. Personally I think even with good recruitment and retention that’s probably three windows including this one. We have a nucleus of around five players that we should be building around. Losing two or three of these types of key players every window makes the squad building harder and longer. It’s frankly bollocks to think we can be smarter in recruiting players than other clubs. We really can’t. It’s going to take serious investment to recruit and retain and no small amount of luck also. I can see that someone like Miles is slightly different. We might be in a position to get perhaps north of three million for him and that money can really make a dent in squad building. It’s sensible footballing business for the club and Miles. The others are different because replacing them is going to cost unless we’re very lucky as much as the fee received and even then a gamble. I don’t see very much of the above in our strategy at present and unless there’s a change or phenomenal luck we’re going to be stuck in this poxy league for the foreseeable.
Trouble is you have been saying it will take 3 transfer windows for about 5 years!
In L1 it is bordering the impossible to hold on to any exceptional youth/young talent for any length of time (Beadle, Sarmiento, Ramazzani, probably Leaburn etc), and we don't seem to want to pay top L1 wages to retain our best talent (Dobson, likely L Jones and Small).
Meanwhile, each year that clicks by is as further £9M loss flushed down the toilet by our owners and a year closer to our lease ending.
If we take 3 more windows that writes this season off and next. So let's say we got up in May '27... Our owners would be down £48M by then, still not own The Valley and have just made the Championship. They better hope that they sell Leaburn and Dixon for an absolute shit tonne of money!
I, and i'm sure many others, have never understood the logic of football team owners.
Why would you take over a side losing almost 10m a year and then spend very little to get that side promoted? Of course there are exceptions but you'll often find that the clubs spending the most money at this level generally get promoted within a couple of years.
Surely it is better to spend 6-7m building a good team that would stand a strong chance of promotion inside 2 seasons than stay stuck here losing 9m every year?
Why can owners never see this, and why do they have the confidence despite all the evidence telling them the exact opposite that they can be the ones to do things on the cheap?
Woke up.and saw 79 new posts! Must be some news on signings or outgoings...but no, just a few people discussing the merits of a post by one poster! I get that people will agree/disagree and comment....but 79 posts really? We're 40 pages into this thread and I can't remember reading one rumour of a new player coming in other than the lad at Notts County, maybe!
Think we've just generally had less rumours the last few years. Don't know if that was because Gallen was sidelined before leaving or because we're such a L1 staple we aren't an attractive name for an agent to throw out there anymore. The end product is this thread just becomes debate after debate
And one of those supposedly riding that train is a minority owner in himself. (Whether that's token shares or actual money is another matter)
The point is there's not much gravy to be had out of being part of the SMT at Charlton, it's a different world from when Southall was milking us dry for Range Rovers and apartments, but I think the recent history of that has clouded the judgement of many on here
They all draw a decent salary. I doubt the gravy is that thin.
There is an argument to say that lack of leaks shows professionalism or as it was put to me a lack of leaks would show "cohesion internally."
Which i guess is a polite why of telling me to mind my own business/when it's on the OS.
So are the club playing their cards close to their chest or are there just no cards to show?
We don't know but people will decide which it is based on their level of cynicism and/or impatience.
It is the nature of the 24 hour news cycle and social media that some expect and demand not just transfers but rumours of transfers.
We could all just wait and see but that isn't enough for some.
Probably 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. But as you say there is rarely space for a shade of grey on social media and I think dedicated forums are probably worse for it
I think if they sell Jones and Leaburn (not sure if this is true or just rumours from here) a lot if not the majority of fans will lose a lot of faith in the ownership.
Them two are exactly the sort of characters you need to build a squad around, throw 2/3 more quality players in that squad then you've got a team which will challenge the top, lose them and we are back to square one if not worse.
If we'd have pulled our finger out and kept Dobson and May.
You'd now have a squad that includes: Dobbo, May, Leaburn, Jones - add a quality keeper and then you'd probably be up in one of them top two spots in my eyes,
Add in: Small, Doc, Ramsay, Mitchell, Coventry as very good league one players who would shine more with the above, ownership have got to show more intent to keep the base of our squad rather than selling them and ruining the balance again, it takes ages to rebuild it.
People are paid to do their jobs in every walk of life and rightly so. The SMT are employees and are paid a wage.
The question should be whether the job is required and if so, is the job holder giving value for money.
Hard to say as we don't know what the SMT are paid.
We do know that the club is, by Methven's own figures, underperforming on its 4th/5th largest budget in the division.
We don't know what was promised to the owners but Methven's own words spoke of reducing losses to £2m or less.
He's now back-tracked on that.
My personal view is that the owners have agreed to cover/lose a set amount each year and won't move on that. It is up to the SMT to increase the budget by reducing costs and increasing income.
Unless Gomez is sold there is no windfall around the corner.
So income can only be increased by better commercial deals, and we have seen a lot of new smaller sponsorship deals, higher ticket sales, cup runs or smarter player dealing. Or reducing head count.
The eagerness to offload CBT and Dobson last January was clear.
Fans correctly point to largely poor recruitment (there have been good buys too) under this SMT and the bloated underperforming squad that needs trimming.
The SMT have spoken of having key performance indicators (KPIs) for all areas but not, understandably, not shared these.
But at a football club, while all the small KPIs feed into the big ones, there is only one KPI that really matters and that is affordable success on the pitch.
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
Has one single person claimed a team can get promoted or relegated in January?
Making things up won’t strengthen your viewpoint.
If the league table is largely irrelevent after 22 games (which everyone apart from you knows is nonsense), how do you compare Burton’s chances with Birmingham for promotion?
I assumed, in the context of a response to Elfsborg’s post, that people would know what I was driving towards.
Is our true position 2nd like it was at its highest this season? Or maybe 14th like it was at its lowest?
Until 46 games have been played we don’t know what the true position is, and trying to judge whether the “top six budget hasn’t worked for 18 months now” is not a conclusion that can be definitively drawn.
Top 4 budget actually And we most certainly can think it and say it and talk about it.
Every transfer window you and I agree to disagree and SADLY .... REALLY sadly..... I've been right each and every window.
I keep saying I hope I'm proved wrong but this SMT will I believe, never prove me wrong.
They actually don't know what they are doing.
Agree
Sadly, I think the SMT know exactly what they doing. Hang in on the gravy train for as long as possible, and not really that bothered if the achieve the result of promotion as it’s always someone else fault.
They will keep doing it until someone forces them out.
surely it makes little to no sense as business owners to buy a business in the football industry spend the money that they do and not try take over competitors. It is clear that SMT do spend money just not quite enough and in the right way YET.
They can’t make any money without getting out of this league so why on earth would they not be bothered about promotion?
overall we are not in a bad position on or off the field of play
@BaileyI would say that we are not in a good position at all.
Don't mind me asking why ? Elfsborg.
Our position in the league table, as for Mary, Mungo and Midge, I'm not going to go over what has already been mentioned with being concerned about operations.
Why the league position then, liking Charlie or the owners is probably a matter of belief in what their intentions are.
The oft used term of top 4/6 budget has clearly not worked for 18 months. The table does not lie.
The table does not lie once every team has played 46 games but it’s a largely irrelevant metric when used on it’s own after only 22 games.
Ha ha, sorry a few days late catching up. The league table is largely irrelevant after 22 games - brilliant.
No one gets promoted or relegated in January!
Has one single person claimed a team can get promoted or relegated in January?
Making things up won’t strengthen your viewpoint.
If the league table is largely irrelevent after 22 games (which everyone apart from you knows is nonsense), how do you compare Burton’s chances with Birmingham for promotion?
I assumed, in the context of a response to Elfsborg’s post, that people would know what I was driving towards.
Is our true position 2nd like it was at its highest this season? Or maybe 14th like it was at its lowest?
Until 46 games have been played we don’t know what the true position is, and trying to judge whether the “top six budget hasn’t worked for 18 months now” is not a conclusion that can be definitively drawn.
Top 4 budget actually And we most certainly can think it and say it and talk about it.
Every transfer window you and I agree to disagree and SADLY .... REALLY sadly..... I've been right each and every window.
I keep saying I hope I'm proved wrong but this SMT will I believe, never prove me wrong.
They actually don't know what they are doing.
Agree
Sadly, I think the SMT know exactly what they doing. Hang in on the gravy train for as long as possible, and not really that bothered if the achieve the result of promotion as it’s always someone else fault.
They will keep doing it until someone forces them out.
surely it makes little to no sense as business owners to buy a business in the football industry spend the money that they do and not try take over competitors. It is clear that SMT do spend money just not quite enough and in the right way YET.
They can’t make any money without getting out of this league so why on earth would they not be bothered about promotion?
The SMT are paid a wage to be employed. Our owners (the money men) aren't paid, they just put the money in, so the longer the SMT remain in gainful employment, they won't need to look for another job - which they won't get in football - unless another mug punter employs them to mess things up.
Sorry, but Charlie Methven couldn't get Sunderland promoted from League 1 when they were spending lots and lots and lots AND had parachute payments still coming in! Look at Sunderland now - flourishing since he left. He'll tell you he sowed the seeds - fans and others will tell you (as will the Netflix series) - that he's an incompetent fool - when it comes to running a football club!
Wasn't there a rumour in the summer that we were supposed to be signing a foreign midfielder in this window? Can't remember the name or from which club.
For me selling your best players, especially midway through the season, only makes sense if you can sign a number of players that improve more than one position. I doubt the money we'd get for Jones would enable this, so I only see downside in selling Jones now.
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Jones is off.
But you have spent most of those 10/12 years defending the owners and structure of the club.
Time will tell of course.
People be angry at Callum for suggesting that you can pick up good players on free transfers, we need to spend millions or get relegated, the SMT are riding an unprofitable gravy train by being paid a wage and Lloyd Jones and Leaburn have been sold and not replaced (soon, maybe).
Why would you take over a side losing almost 10m a year and then spend very little to get that side promoted? Of course there are exceptions but you'll often find that the clubs spending the most money at this level generally get promoted within a couple of years.
Surely it is better to spend 6-7m building a good team that would stand a strong chance of promotion inside 2 seasons than stay stuck here losing 9m every year?
Why can owners never see this, and why do they have the confidence despite all the evidence telling them the exact opposite that they can be the ones to do things on the cheap?
We're 40 pages into this thread and I can't remember reading one rumour of a new player coming in other than the lad at Notts County, maybe!
Which i guess was a polite why of telling me to mind my own business/when it's on the OS.
So are the club playing their cards close to their chest or are there just no cards to show?
We don't know but people will decide which it is based on their level of cynicism and/or impatience.
It is the nature of the 24 hour news cycle and social media that some expect and demand not just transfers but rumours of transfers.
We could all just wait and see but that isn't enough for some.
Them two are exactly the sort of characters you need to build a squad around, throw 2/3 more quality players in that squad then you've got a team which will challenge the top, lose them and we are back to square one if not worse.
We are on the right direction, if we keep them.
You'd now have a squad that includes: Dobbo, May, Leaburn, Jones - add a quality keeper and then you'd probably be up in one of them top two spots in my eyes,
Add in: Small, Doc, Ramsay, Mitchell, Coventry as very good league one players who would shine more with the above, ownership have got to show more intent to keep the base of our squad rather than selling them and ruining the balance again, it takes ages to rebuild it.
People are paid to do their jobs in every walk of life and rightly so. The SMT are employees and are paid a wage.
The question should be whether the job is required and if so, is the job holder giving value for money.
Hard to say as we don't know what the SMT are paid.
We do know that the club is, by Methven's own figures, underperforming on its 4th/5th largest budget in the division.
We don't know what was promised to the owners but Methven's own words spoke of reducing losses to £2m or less.
He's now back-tracked on that.
My personal view is that the owners have agreed to cover/lose a set amount each year and won't move on that. It is up to the SMT to increase the budget by reducing costs and increasing income.
Unless Gomez is sold there is no windfall around the corner.
So income can only be increased by better commercial deals, and we have seen a lot of new smaller sponsorship deals, higher ticket sales, cup runs or smarter player dealing. Or reducing head count.
The eagerness to offload CBT and Dobson last January was clear.
Fans correctly point to largely poor recruitment (there have been good buys too) under this SMT and the bloated underperforming squad that needs trimming.
The SMT have spoken of having key performance indicators (KPIs) for all areas but not, understandably, not shared these.
But at a football club, while all the small KPIs feed into the big ones, there is only one KPI that really matters and that is affordable success on the pitch.
They can’t make any money without getting out of this league so why on earth would they not be bothered about promotion?
I don't want to be sitting here on deadline day whilst we sign some random Luton fringe player on loan at 11pm ,😆
Sorry, but Charlie Methven couldn't get Sunderland promoted from League 1 when they were spending lots and lots and lots AND had parachute payments still coming in! Look at Sunderland now - flourishing since he left. He'll tell you he sowed the seeds - fans and others will tell you (as will the Netflix series) - that he's an incompetent fool - when it comes to running a football club!
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/charlton-athletic-hikacking-crystal-palace-deal-could-deliver-double-boost/