If we DO indeed plan to move Terry Taylor on (none of us want that) then as a short term end of season fix, I don't think the Clucas move is an awful shout. Quite clear that we don't want to play both Coventry and Taylor and as wicked as Taylor's set piece delivery and his eye to progress things, as a '4' I think Coventry is the better player (I know many on here will disagree, and that's okay chaps), Clucas would be 'fine' as backup imo. Not a very fun move as Taylor is a good player but prudent if it allows to bring in someone we need more desperately aka a midfielder who wants to look forward and can play in tight spaces.
I think Clucas and jones didn’t get on at Stoke so I think that’s a non goer. More than likely his agent trying to drum up more interest for a bigger wage. I can’t see him moving south either.
I’m disappointed to see so much negativity to these owners. They have put their hands in their pockets considerably more than most league 1 owners.
The majority of people were pleased with the loan signing of Ladapo until it went pear shaped . Is that the owners fault ? Don’t forget a couple of years ago the club were on the brink with Southall and Co so they have a lot of credit in the bank with me.
To be fair I don’t think there is too much criticism of the owners. They’re remote and placed the project in the hands what they expect to be competent football people. At some point they’ll want and expect to see measurable progress. It’s difficult to see where that is at present. I’d think next season will be the tipping point with targets set and expectations met.
I would humbly suggest that those who cannot see any measurable progress since the new owners took over aren’t really looking, or are judging it solely on short term results.
What measurable progress to you see then @Redrobo ?
I see inputs but not many outcomes.
This time last year we were heading for a relegation fight. We then appointed what I believe to be a very good manager on a four and a half year contract and moved steadily away from that.
A relegation fight that came under the managers appointed by the current SMT
A good year for Jones so far.
Good but not great IMO. AS you usedd the term measurable progress how much has our league position improved?
I think he has taken a big step forward in getting rid of some players and we now have a team that is very “together “, which hasn’t always been the case. I would suggest that this has been obvious for a while now and not just over the Christmas period. Have we now got rid of those disrupting influencers that previous managers have alluded to?
Fine but how is that "measurable progress"? A month ago many were slating the same players and the manager.
Many supporters I know had the feeling that our Club was very broken. Everything seems more professional and progressive now. The outside fans area is not really my thing, but it is getting better and fans seem to be using and enjoying it. Things just seem to be getting done now.
Again, but how is the fanzone "measurable progress? Has it increased income?
Leaburn, and now Ramsey, returning from injury early!!! Unheard of.
Not true. Leaburn return in October jsut as he was proedicted to and Ramsay was said by NJ to have been ready over Xmas.
Our recruitment looks better and done earlier. Only one window so far, but even as fans we are discussing on here the areas for improvement instead of who we want to stay.
I make this the 4th and even 5th window. We have made some good signings but there is a lot that can't be called that, yet at least.
I also feel more confident that are future looks better than it has for years and we will get out of this league very soon. I think this season maybe a little early, but at least we have a chance!
That's great but how you feel isn't "measurable progress"
From the very first paragraph of his post he was surely talking about the progress under Jones.
We were 19th when he came in, we're now 11th with 1-2 games in hand on 7 of the 10 teams above us. 8 places is definitely progress.
Jones has had 1 transfer window, this is his second. But yes of course we all know we need more better quality signings. Every team does, even Man City and Arsenal.
And regarding the injuries Ramsay did his knee in October and was expected to be out for months. Most fans were pleasantly surprised when we got an announcement just before xmas that he was already back in training. Jones definitely didn't say he would be ready over christmas, he simply said that he was back out running and not far away.
Leaburn was sent away for specialist rehab in the summer at St Georges Park. Would that have happened in the past? I highly doubt it so i'd certainly class the medical care and attention as progress. Not to mention we now (as far as i'm aware) don't have any first team squad members injured which again is definitely progress.
If we DO indeed plan to move Terry Taylor on (none of us want that) then as a short term end of season fix, I don't think the Clucas move is an awful shout. Quite clear that we don't want to play both Coventry and Taylor and as wicked as Taylor's set piece delivery and his eye to progress things, as a '4' I think Coventry is the best player (I know many on here will disagree, and that's okay chaps), Clucas would be 'fine' as backup imo. Not a very fun move as Taylor is a good player but prudent if it allows to bring in someone we need more desperately aka a midfielder who wants to look forward and can play in tight spaces.
Key word being 'fine'. If the club is using the excuse of needing to trim the squad before we bring in players that could actually elevate us, why would we sell a 23 year old, with a relatively high ceiling, and bring in a 34 year old?
We would surely just be in the same position we are now. It just doesn't seem like positive transfer activity.
No chance. A 34 year old who in the summer was deemed not good enough by Rotherham.
Their director of football said this at the time:
“Sam did well for us, but he was at the older end of the age spectrum. One of the deciding factors was his age and the potential for him to pick up more injuries as he gets another year older. The intensity of games in League One was another factor. Would he be able to fulfil a full season?”
If we DO indeed plan to move Terry Taylor on (none of us want that) then as a short term end of season fix, I don't think the Clucas move is an awful shout. Quite clear that we don't want to play both Coventry and Taylor and as wicked as Taylor's set piece delivery and his eye to progress things, as a '4' I think Coventry is the best player (I know many on here will disagree, and that's okay chaps), Clucas would be 'fine' as backup imo. Not a very fun move as Taylor is a good player but prudent if it allows to bring in someone we need more desperately aka a midfielder who wants to look forward and can play in tight spaces.
Key word being 'fine'. If the club is using the excuse of needing to trim the squad before we bring in players that could actually elevate us, why would we sell a 23 year old, with a relatively high ceiling, and bring in a 34 year old?
We would surely just be in the same position we are now. It just doesn't seem like positive transfer activity.
I hear you totally, it would be alarming if we didn't have Coventry, Doc, Anderson and unfortunately A.Campbell who can all play that sitting role. The 'why' you ask is fairly basic economics, the 23 year old is worth more to a buying club. I feel Jones has made it clear what to expect from this window, and it's more out than in but being optimistic, what if moving Taylor in allowed us to bring in a drastic upgrade on Berry? Someone who allows us to penetrate the opposition a little more or perhaps make a new shape viable. Ultimately, whether it's positive or negative largely depends on what other business gets done.
If we DO indeed plan to move Terry Taylor on (none of us want that) then as a short term end of season fix, I don't think the Clucas move is an awful shout. Quite clear that we don't want to play both Coventry and Taylor and as wicked as Taylor's set piece delivery and his eye to progress things, as a '4' I think Coventry is the best player (I know many on here will disagree, and that's okay chaps), Clucas would be 'fine' as backup imo. Not a very fun move as Taylor is a good player but prudent if it allows to bring in someone we need more desperately aka a midfielder who wants to look forward and can play in tight spaces.
Key word being 'fine'. If the club is using the excuse of needing to trim the squad before we bring in players that could actually elevate us, why would we sell a 23 year old, with a relatively high ceiling, and bring in a 34 year old?
We would surely just be in the same position we are now. It just doesn't seem like positive transfer activity.
I hear you totally, it would be alarming if we didn't have Coventry, Doc, Anderson and unfortunately A.Campbell who can all play that sitting role. The 'why' you ask is fairly basic economics, the 23 year old is worth more to a buying club. I feel Jones has made it clear what to expect from this window, and it's more out than in but being optimistic, what if moving Taylor in allowed us to bring in a drastic upgrade on Berry? Someone who allows us to penetrate the opposition a little more or perhaps make a new shape viable. Ultimately, whether it's positive or negative largely depends on what other business gets done.
We are rumoured to be looking at a non league player [on a downward career path] and worried about losing LJ to Wycombe, for fecks sake.
I remember when Les Reed was sacked after we lost to Wycombe many years back - shows how far we have fallen as a club that they are now so much better than us, despite the result the other week.
I’m disappointed to see so much negativity to these owners. They have put their hands in their pockets considerably more than most league 1 owners.
The majority of people were pleased with the loan signing of Ladapo until it went pear shaped . Is that the owners fault ? Don’t forget a couple of years ago the club were on the brink with Southall and Co so they have a lot of credit in the bank with me.
To be fair I don’t think there is too much criticism of the owners. They’re remote and placed the project in the hands what they expect to be competent football people. At some point they’ll want and expect to see measurable progress. It’s difficult to see where that is at present. I’d think next season will be the tipping point with targets set and expectations met.
I would humbly suggest that those who cannot see any measurable progress since the new owners took over aren’t really looking, or are judging it solely on short term results.
What measurable progress to you see then @Redrobo ?
I see inputs but not many outcomes.
This time last year we were heading for a relegation fight. We then appointed what I believe to be a very good manager on a four and a half year contract and moved steadily away from that.
A relegation fight that came under the managers appointed by the current SMT
A good year for Jones so far.
Good but not great IMO. AS you usedd the term measurable progress how much has our league position improved?
I think he has taken a big step forward in getting rid of some players and we now have a team that is very “together “, which hasn’t always been the case. I would suggest that this has been obvious for a while now and not just over the Christmas period. Have we now got rid of those disrupting influencers that previous managers have alluded to?
Fine but how is that "measurable progress"? A month ago many were slating the same players and the manager.
Many supporters I know had the feeling that our Club was very broken. Everything seems more professional and progressive now. The outside fans area is not really my thing, but it is getting better and fans seem to be using and enjoying it. Things just seem to be getting done now.
Again, but how is the fanzone "measurable progress? Has it increased income?
Leaburn, and now Ramsey, returning from injury early!!! Unheard of.
Not true. Leaburn return in October jsut as he was proedicted to and Ramsay was said by NJ to have been ready over Xmas.
Our recruitment looks better and done earlier. Only one window so far, but even as fans we are discussing on here the areas for improvement instead of who we want to stay.
I make this the 4th and even 5th window. We have made some good signings but there is a lot that can't be called that, yet at least.
I also feel more confident that are future looks better than it has for years and we will get out of this league very soon. I think this season maybe a little early, but at least we have a chance!
That's great but how you feel isn't "measurable progress"
From the very first paragraph of his post he was surely talking about the progress under Jones.
We were 19th when he came in, we're now 11th with 1-2 games in hand on 7 of the 10 teams above us. 8 places is definitely progress.
Jones has had 1 transfer window, this is his second. But yes of course we all know we need more better quality signings. Every team does, even Man City and Arsenal.
And regarding the injuries Ramsay did his knee in October and was expected to be out for months. Most fans were pleasantly surprised when we got an announcement just before xmas that he was already back in training. Jones definitely didn't say he would be ready over christmas, he simply said that he was back out running and not far away.
Leaburn was sent away for specialist rehab in the summer at St Georges Park. Would that have happened in the past? I highly doubt it so i'd certainly class the medical care and attention as progress. Not to mention we now (as far as i'm aware) don't have any first team squad members injured which again is definitely progress.
I don't think you can praise the owners for the progression on the pitch from last season, without acknowledging that it was under those same owners that saw us have the lowest league finish of our lifetimes.
It would be fairer to compare league positions from before they took over. We were mid-table under Sandgaard, and we're midtable now.
I really really hope that we keep Taylor. Why oh why is A.Campbell on the bench ahead of him ? Makes no sense to me, but what do I know ? Probably very little.
I really really hope that we keep Taylor. Why oh why is A.Campbell on the bench ahead of him ? Makes no sense to me, but what do I know ? Probably very little.
I’m disappointed to see so much negativity to these owners. They have put their hands in their pockets considerably more than most league 1 owners.
The majority of people were pleased with the loan signing of Ladapo until it went pear shaped . Is that the owners fault ? Don’t forget a couple of years ago the club were on the brink with Southall and Co so they have a lot of credit in the bank with me.
To be fair I don’t think there is too much criticism of the owners. They’re remote and placed the project in the hands what they expect to be competent football people. At some point they’ll want and expect to see measurable progress. It’s difficult to see where that is at present. I’d think next season will be the tipping point with targets set and expectations met.
I would humbly suggest that those who cannot see any measurable progress since the new owners took over aren’t really looking, or are judging it solely on short term results.
What measurable progress to you see then @Redrobo ?
I see inputs but not many outcomes.
This time last year we were heading for a relegation fight. We then appointed what I believe to be a very good manager on a four and a half year contract and moved steadily away from that.
A relegation fight that came under the managers appointed by the current SMT
A good year for Jones so far.
Good but not great IMO. AS you usedd the term measurable progress how much has our league position improved?
I think he has taken a big step forward in getting rid of some players and we now have a team that is very “together “, which hasn’t always been the case. I would suggest that this has been obvious for a while now and not just over the Christmas period. Have we now got rid of those disrupting influencers that previous managers have alluded to?
Fine but how is that "measurable progress"? A month ago many were slating the same players and the manager.
Many supporters I know had the feeling that our Club was very broken. Everything seems more professional and progressive now. The outside fans area is not really my thing, but it is getting better and fans seem to be using and enjoying it. Things just seem to be getting done now.
Again, but how is the fanzone "measurable progress? Has it increased income?
Leaburn, and now Ramsey, returning from injury early!!! Unheard of.
Not true. Leaburn return in October jsut as he was proedicted to and Ramsay was said by NJ to have been ready over Xmas.
Our recruitment looks better and done earlier. Only one window so far, but even as fans we are discussing on here the areas for improvement instead of who we want to stay.
I make this the 4th and even 5th window. We have made some good signings but there is a lot that can't be called that, yet at least.
I also feel more confident that are future looks better than it has for years and we will get out of this league very soon. I think this season maybe a little early, but at least we have a chance!
That's great but how you feel isn't "measurable progress"
From the very first paragraph of his post he was surely talking about the progress under Jones.
We were 19th when he came in, we're now 11th with 1-2 games in hand on 7 of the 10 teams above us. 8 places is definitely progress.
Jones has had 1 transfer window, this is his second. But yes of course we all know we need more better quality signings. Every team does, even Man City and Arsenal.
And regarding the injuries Ramsay did his knee in October and was expected to be out for months. Most fans were pleasantly surprised when we got an announcement just before xmas that he was already back in training. Jones definitely didn't say he would be ready over christmas, he simply said that he was back out running and not far away.
Leaburn was sent away for specialist rehab in the summer at St Georges Park. Would that have happened in the past? I highly doubt it so i'd certainly class the medical care and attention as progress. Not to mention we now (as far as i'm aware) don't have any first team squad members injured which again is definitely progress.
I don't think you can praise the owners for the progression on the pitch from last season, without acknowledging that it was under those same owners that saw us have the lowest league finish of our lifetimes.
It would be fairer to compare league positions from before they took over. We were mid-table under Sandgaard, and we're midtable now.
I would point out that the discussion was not about the owners but the SMT and their future. May I also ask that we also think back to where we were as a Club? Yes mid-table, but had dismantled so much of the workings of the Club we were down to the bare bones and going backwards. The “black box” (did we actually do any actual scouting back then?), loyal staff leaving, etc etc. There is more to a Club than it’s position in the league. If you think it would have made no difference at all if Sandgaard had stayed, fine.
I see us as a stable Club moving forward for the 1st time in years.
If we DO indeed plan to move Terry Taylor on (none of us want that) then as a short term end of season fix, I don't think the Clucas move is an awful shout. Quite clear that we don't want to play both Coventry and Taylor and as wicked as Taylor's set piece delivery and his eye to progress things, as a '4' I think Coventry is the best player (I know many on here will disagree, and that's okay chaps), Clucas would be 'fine' as backup imo. Not a very fun move as Taylor is a good player but prudent if it allows to bring in someone we need more desperately aka a midfielder who wants to look forward and can play in tight spaces.
Key word being 'fine'. If the club is using the excuse of needing to trim the squad before we bring in players that could actually elevate us, why would we sell a 23 year old, with a relatively high ceiling, and bring in a 34 year old?
We would surely just be in the same position we are now. It just doesn't seem like positive transfer activity.
I hear you totally, it would be alarming if we didn't have Coventry, Doc, Anderson and unfortunately A.Campbell who can all play that sitting role. The 'why' you ask is fairly basic economics, the 23 year old is worth more to a buying club. I feel Jones has made it clear what to expect from this window, and it's more out than in but being optimistic, what if moving Taylor in allowed us to bring in a drastic upgrade on Berry? Someone who allows us to penetrate the opposition a little more or perhaps make a new shape viable. Ultimately, whether it's positive or negative largely depends on what other business gets done.
Yes that would be fine. I completely understand your view point.
Say if we sold Taylor for a reasonable fee and replaced him with let's say Dan Crowley, that would be ok. As we are selling a player that clearly our manager doesn't particularly rate, and bringing in a player who should genuinely improve us.
My issue is, if the club are saying we need more outs before we can bring any in, why bring in a player who is 34 and probably wouldn't improve us. Not anymore than I imagine some of our players would anyway.
Respectfully, if he's not good enough for Rotherham, he isn't good enough for us imo.
We are rumoured to be looking at a non league player [on a downward career path] and worried about losing LJ to Wycombe, for fecks sake.
I remember when Les Reed was sacked after we lost to Wycombe many years back - shows how far we have fallen as a club that they are now so much better than us, despite the result the other week.
Pointless rant is over
Wycombe are about to sign their second centre back of the window. I don’t think we have too much to worry about when it comes to Jones joining them this month.
We are rumoured to be looking at a non league player [on a downward career path] and worried about losing LJ to Wycombe, for fecks sake.
I remember when Les Reed was sacked after we lost to Wycombe many years back - shows how far we have fallen as a club that they are now so much better than us, despite the result the other week.
Pointless rant is over
Wycombe are about to sign their second centre back of the window. I don’t think we have too much to worry about when it comes to Jones joining them this month.
That's not how it works though. Every player linked to us is shit, and everyone of our players linked to somewhere else is being immediately sold for a pittance
I’m disappointed to see so much negativity to these owners. They have put their hands in their pockets considerably more than most league 1 owners.
The majority of people were pleased with the loan signing of Ladapo until it went pear shaped . Is that the owners fault ? Don’t forget a couple of years ago the club were on the brink with Southall and Co so they have a lot of credit in the bank with me.
To be fair I don’t think there is too much criticism of the owners. They’re remote and placed the project in the hands what they expect to be competent football people. At some point they’ll want and expect to see measurable progress. It’s difficult to see where that is at present. I’d think next season will be the tipping point with targets set and expectations met.
I would humbly suggest that those who cannot see any measurable progress since the new owners took over aren’t really looking, or are judging it solely on short term results.
What measurable progress to you see then @Redrobo ?
I see inputs but not many outcomes.
This time last year we were heading for a relegation fight. We then appointed what I believe to be a very good manager on a four and a half year contract and moved steadily away from that.
A relegation fight that came under the managers appointed by the current SMT
A good year for Jones so far.
Good but not great IMO. AS you usedd the term measurable progress how much has our league position improved?
I think he has taken a big step forward in getting rid of some players and we now have a team that is very “together “, which hasn’t always been the case. I would suggest that this has been obvious for a while now and not just over the Christmas period. Have we now got rid of those disrupting influencers that previous managers have alluded to?
Fine but how is that "measurable progress"? A month ago many were slating the same players and the manager.
Many supporters I know had the feeling that our Club was very broken. Everything seems more professional and progressive now. The outside fans area is not really my thing, but it is getting better and fans seem to be using and enjoying it. Things just seem to be getting done now.
Again, but how is the fanzone "measurable progress? Has it increased income?
Leaburn, and now Ramsey, returning from injury early!!! Unheard of.
Not true. Leaburn return in October jsut as he was proedicted to and Ramsay was said by NJ to have been ready over Xmas.
Our recruitment looks better and done earlier. Only one window so far, but even as fans we are discussing on here the areas for improvement instead of who we want to stay.
I make this the 4th and even 5th window. We have made some good signings but there is a lot that can't be called that, yet at least.
I also feel more confident that are future looks better than it has for years and we will get out of this league very soon. I think this season maybe a little early, but at least we have a chance!
That's great but how you feel isn't "measurable progress"
From the very first paragraph of his post he was surely talking about the progress under Jones.
We were 19th when he came in, we're now 11th with 1-2 games in hand on 7 of the 10 teams above us. 8 places is definitely progress.
Jones has had 1 transfer window, this is his second. But yes of course we all know we need more better quality signings. Every team does, even Man City and Arsenal.
And regarding the injuries Ramsay did his knee in October and was expected to be out for months. Most fans were pleasantly surprised when we got an announcement just before xmas that he was already back in training. Jones definitely didn't say he would be ready over christmas, he simply said that he was back out running and not far away.
Leaburn was sent away for specialist rehab in the summer at St Georges Park. Would that have happened in the past? I highly doubt it so i'd certainly class the medical care and attention as progress. Not to mention we now (as far as i'm aware) don't have any first team squad members injured which again is definitely progress.
Just for the record, all longer term injured players have the opportunity to go away to St George’s Park and do some different work with the medical staff based there.
For example, Lewis Page had the same, the club just didn’t make a thing of it at the time, but he definitely went and this was even before Bowyer took charge. With Leaburn, they clearly thought that adding this layer of comms would be good as it opens up to the fans. They were right, it helped. However, let’s be careful and clear about it, that was not something the club went right out of their way for. It was something that they were entitled and encouraged to do. It was just showcased.
The idea is that it allows a different set of eyes and allows both the player and the staff of the club to have a bit of a break from each other. Otherwise, they’re spending large chunks of the week together and the break away and use of different facilities should help both physically and mentally, aiding recovery.
I’m disappointed to see so much negativity to these owners. They have put their hands in their pockets considerably more than most league 1 owners.
The majority of people were pleased with the loan signing of Ladapo until it went pear shaped . Is that the owners fault ? Don’t forget a couple of years ago the club were on the brink with Southall and Co so they have a lot of credit in the bank with me.
To be fair I don’t think there is too much criticism of the owners. They’re remote and placed the project in the hands what they expect to be competent football people. At some point they’ll want and expect to see measurable progress. It’s difficult to see where that is at present. I’d think next season will be the tipping point with targets set and expectations met.
I would humbly suggest that those who cannot see any measurable progress since the new owners took over aren’t really looking, or are judging it solely on short term results.
What measurable progress to you see then @Redrobo ?
I see inputs but not many outcomes.
Well here’s one. The treatment room. It’s empty. I can’t remember the last time that was the case, certainly not in mid-season. And I think, going on the last game, fitness levels are good too.
Methven highlighted this as a key area in the Dossier interview (albeit for reasons best known to himself, asking for that section to be off-record). Then after a rather long wait, we got Will Abbott.
Surely you would agree that that is an outcome, and a significant one at that?
Bumped into Will Abbotts dad on the way back to London Bridge on Saturday….. he’s a Forest supporter…… what a season he’s having so far…… he’s now a Charlton fan too for obvious reasons……. he said his son is loving being at Charlton which was great to hear. I asked him to tell his son that if the phone went and it was a Spurs number that he wasn’t allowed to answer it!
I think Clucas and jones didn’t get on at Stoke so I think that’s a non goer. More than likely his agent trying to drum up more interest for a bigger wage. I can’t see him moving south either.
Judging by his record at Stoke, Jones didn't get on with anyone.
I'd also argue that there's not an area of the pitch we are missing players completely. Sure we've had to play makeshift RWB a couple of times, but having 2 long term injuries in the same position whilst you've loaned out the 3rd choice youngster is nothing more than rotten luck, and even then REG and Small have performed adequately there. I'm sure we'd all like another creative midfielder and a better keeper, but that's upgrades instead of gaping holes in the squad.
They weren't both adequate tho, REG was rubbish and Small has been good
Thats 2 x centre-backs Wycombe have signed in the last few days. Not sure they will want a 3rd in Lloyd Jones
Would think that Jones might think twice about going from captain/1st choice to having to fight for a start as well, unless they paid ridiculous wages (which at his age they probably won't.)
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We were 19th when he came in, we're now 11th with 1-2 games in hand on 7 of the 10 teams above us. 8 places is definitely progress.
Jones has had 1 transfer window, this is his second. But yes of course we all know we need more better quality signings. Every team does, even Man City and Arsenal.
And regarding the injuries Ramsay did his knee in October and was expected to be out for months. Most fans were pleasantly surprised when we got an announcement just before xmas that he was already back in training. Jones definitely didn't say he would be ready over christmas, he simply said that he was back out running and not far away.
Leaburn was sent away for specialist rehab in the summer at St Georges Park. Would that have happened in the past? I highly doubt it so i'd certainly class the medical care and attention as progress. Not to mention we now (as far as i'm aware) don't have any first team squad members injured which again is definitely progress.
We would surely just be in the same position we are now. It just doesn't seem like positive transfer activity.
Their director of football said this at the time:
“Sam did well for us, but he was at the older end of the age spectrum. One of the deciding factors was his age and the potential for him to pick up more injuries as he gets another year older. The intensity of games in League One was another factor. Would he be able to fulfil a full season?”
I remember when Les Reed was sacked after we lost to Wycombe many years back - shows how far we have fallen as a club that they are now so much better than us, despite the result the other week.
Pointless rant is over
It would be fairer to compare league positions from before they took over. We were mid-table under Sandgaard, and we're midtable now.
Problem with NJ? he is a know-all…..
May I also ask that we also think back to where we were as a Club? Yes mid-table, but had dismantled so much of the workings of the Club we were down to the bare bones and going backwards. The “black box” (did we actually do any actual scouting back then?), loyal staff leaving, etc etc. There is more to a Club than it’s position in the league.
If you think it would have made no difference at all if Sandgaard had stayed, fine.
Say if we sold Taylor for a reasonable fee and replaced him with let's say Dan Crowley, that would be ok. As we are selling a player that clearly our manager doesn't particularly rate, and bringing in a player who should genuinely improve us.
My issue is, if the club are saying we need more outs before we can bring any in, why bring in a player who is 34 and probably wouldn't improve us. Not anymore than I imagine some of our players would anyway.
Respectfully, if he's not good enough for Rotherham, he isn't good enough for us imo.
For example, Lewis Page had the same, the club just didn’t make a thing of it at the time, but he definitely went and this was even before Bowyer took charge. With Leaburn, they clearly thought that adding this layer of comms would be good as it opens up to the fans. They were right, it helped. However, let’s be careful and clear about it, that was not something the club went right out of their way for. It was something that they were entitled and encouraged to do. It was just showcased.
The idea is that it allows a different set of eyes and allows both the player and the staff of the club to have a bit of a break from each other. Otherwise, they’re spending large chunks of the week together and the break away and use of different facilities should help both physically and mentally, aiding recovery.
Thats 2 x centre-backs Wycombe have signed in the last few days. Not sure they will want a 3rd in Lloyd Jones