I still miss him, best striker since Yann, only the snake comes close.
Him and Miles up top together, at their very best could play in the championship imo.
Massive blunder selling him, same as Yann was.
Didn't sell him he out in a transfer request cause he wanted to move back north we had no option…. or have an unhappy player
This is my take on him going.
May was unhappy because of the way he had been treated by Jones upon his arrival. He knew he wasn’t going to be in his plans. From that point on Alfie did what he needed to do to get his move. Had he been part of the plan, I think he would have still been here.
I still miss him, best striker since Yann, only the snake comes close.
Him and Miles up top together, at their very best could play in the championship imo.
Massive blunder selling him, same as Yann was.
Didn't sell him he out in a transfer request cause he wanted to move back north we had no option…. or have an unhappy player
This is my take on him going.
May was unhappy because of the way he had been treated by Jones upon his arrival. He knew he wasn’t going to be in his plans. From that point on Alfie did what he needed to do to get his move. Had he been part of the plan, I think he would have still been here.
That’s how I see it too, but the first part is essential. If May had played every minute under Jones (and it’s pretty unfathomable that he didn’t) then I don’t think any of this would have happened and he would likely still be with us this season.
Just like with Dobson where we set the wheels in motion for him to leave by not making him a decent contract offer we are the architects of our own misfortune.
I still miss him, best striker since Yann, only the snake comes close.
Him and Miles up top together, at their very best could play in the championship imo.
Massive blunder selling him, same as Yann was.
Didn't sell him he out in a transfer request cause he wanted to move back north we had no option…. or have an unhappy player
If he did "put in a transfer request" then that was only because Nathan Jones had told him that he wasn't going to be an automatic choice up front in the new season & had pissed him off by being subbed in most games towards the end if the season.
Iirc he was told that he could look for another club if he wasn't happy. I'm 100% certain that May would still be here if a different manager had taken over last Feb.
I still miss him, best striker since Yann, only the snake comes close.
Him and Miles up top together, at their very best could play in the championship imo.
Massive blunder selling him, same as Yann was.
Didn't sell him he out in a transfer request cause he wanted to move back north we had no option…. or have an unhappy player
If he did "put in a transfer request" then that was only because Nathan Jones had told him that he wasn't going to be an automatic choice up front in the new season & had pissed him off by being subbed in most games towards the end if the season.
Iirc he was told that he could look for another club if he wasn't happy. I'm 100% certain that May would still be here if a different manager had taken over last Feb.
May has been made to look the guilty party in all this. He probably had to put in a transfer request to get the move sorted.
I'd not be surprised if Jones was told on interview there was no money in the pot and he had to sell players to bring players in. He went along with it but got the contract length as some sort of compromise.
Surely Jones knows you do not sell your top scorer.
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to the team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to be team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Godden a better all round player then May.. And he done it at a higher level that May never played.. Godden got 8 goals but is not going to score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to be team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Godden a better all round player then May.. And he done it at a higher level that May never played.. Godden got 8 goals but is not going to score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
In season 24/25, Godden is not an all round better player than May.
That is self evident to those that have watched both players, and by a comparison of their respective league 1 goals per game ratio at any point in their respective careers (on the basis that this is a key metric in determining the success of a forward).
May has never played at Championship level, but that is irrelevant today - they are both in league 1 and May is the better player, and unfortunately, in the better team.
Godden’s not a better all round player than Leaburn either. If he was he’d be a regular starter. It’s not a coincidence we’ve improved with TC, Leaburn and Small in the team, adding pace and width to the team, as well as Leaburn’s goals and improved hold up play.
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to be team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Godden a better all round player then May.. And he done it at a higher level that May never played.. Godden got 8 goals but is not going to score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to be team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Godden a better all round player then May.. And he done it at a higher level that May never played.. Godden got 8 goals but is not going to score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
And yet moneybags Birmingham decided to spend 750k+ (or whatever it was) on May rather than signing the much cheaper Godden.........
Play him in his position he scores goals. Play him in an unsuited position out wide and he doesn’t. No sh*t.
Have to wonder what all these analysts at clubs get paid for
Except for that period where we played him at 10 or on the right wing and he scored 10 goals in 9 games. He scores goals wherever he plays, just he does it in clumps.
No one wants to hear it - it’s definitely because Birmingham played him out of position and he lost confidence. Not been a pattern throughout his last few seasons. No sir.
NB: this post doesn’t mean I don’t think he isn’t a good goalscorer. Honestly I’ve lost track of what the disagreement was about by this point. I think it was me saying he scores goals in streaks and people took that to mean I thought he wasn’t very good?
I think it's because you said Godden was better and that he'd outscore May. I don't think anyone is that bothered about him being streaky, it's not like he's the kind of player who contributes nothing when he's not scoring.
I did?
You only said it in December. Have you had a change of heart?
Oh, I’m assuming you’re referencing the post where I said “well I claim Godden is better … what happens now?”.
I was just being an argumentative lil shit because I thought the poster I responded to was being dismissive of numbers and stats in favour of sentiment so I said Godden was better to make a point that usually numbers and figures help us come to objective conclusions when people have different viewpoints based on vibes.
In reality, if I was offered one or the other in a vacuum: May does shade it given he’s done it consistently at this exact level for 3.5 years. But I think the gap between him and Godden is a lot smaller than some have suggested. Halfway through the season and Alfie’s on 10 and Godden’s on 5 - swap the teams they play for and I reckon you’d be looking at Godden on 8-9 and Alfie on 6-7.
And if the equation was Godden + an additional £500k odd to spend on the squad then I understand why the club thought that tipped the scales.
We can debate how that £500k was spent but that’s separate & secondary to the May argument.
I don't dislike Godden but I think there is a decent gap. Godden only offers goals, May offered a lot of more. The irony is - we were bringing in Godden because he supposedly offered more to be team than May. In reality, outside of the box he offers less.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
Godden a better all round player then May.. And he done it at a higher level that May never played.. Godden got 8 goals but is not going to score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
Makes you wonder doesn't it Ron, why Birmingham didn't go after the services of our deadly duo Godden and Ahadme. Instead they wasted it on a streaky striker.
Godden would score if he plays. Can't score sitting on the bench. Still the top goalscorer even though he's hardly played in our current "unbeaten run".
Godden would score if he plays. Can't score sitting on the bench. Still the top goalscorer even though he's hardly played in our current "unbeaten run".
He would, but we’d create less with Godden playing Leaburn’s role. He’s not as quick, good in the air or as strong as Leaburn.
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This is my take on him going.
Iirc he was told that he could look for another club if he wasn't happy. I'm 100% certain that May would still be here if a different manager had taken over last Feb.
Godden will struggle to fit into this new system and I predict will spend the remainder on the bench (if TC stays fit). Effectively we have swapped a key first team player for a squad player.
score sitting in the bench….. if Godden had the chances that Anderson and Leaburn had v Mansfield and Leaburn again on Saturday we would have two wins instead of two draws … that the diff a goalscorer makes .. personally Godden would be first name on the team sheet if you want to win more games
That is self evident to those that have watched both players, and by a comparison of their respective league 1 goals per game ratio at any point in their respective careers (on the basis that this is a key metric in determining the success of a forward).
May has never played at Championship level, but that is irrelevant today - they are both in league 1 and May is the better player, and unfortunately, in the better team.
Unfortunately for us, Nathan Jones didn't like Alfie May playing cricket as a hobby, and thought he was a hot shot. The rest is history.
Golden goose replaced by an oversized snail.