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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    When carrying big squads as we do, with the desire to have a route into the first team from the academy, then the cup competitions can be handy.
    Manchester City should shut up and get on with it.
    The loan system fulfils a bit of the function of getting players ‘first team’ minutes like Nathan at Hartlepool, but there are positives and negatives around the variety of cup competitions, but in my view mainly positives.
    We won the London Senior Cup last season after all 😁
  • seth plum said:
    When carrying big squads as we do, with the desire to have a route into the first team from the academy, then the cup competitions can be handy.
    Manchester City should shut up and get on with it.
    The loan system fulfils a bit of the function of getting players ‘first team’ minutes like Nathan at Hartlepool, but there are positives and negatives around the variety of cup competitions, but in my view mainly positives.
    We won the London Senior Cup last season after all 😁
    If City get to the final of all the competitions they're in this season then they will play 72 games.

    I doubt anyone will have any sympathy for them, but i'm sure most people will agree that is too many games. When you factor in international games it's an 80+ game season for some players.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    The main reason there is too many games played by the top teams is the expansion of the champions league. 
    In the old version which was the European cup only the champions of each country qualified and it was a straight forward knock out competition. 
    Now we have 4 teams from England alone qualifying and what with all the group matches home and away the competition has morphed into something completely different. 
    The big club's who qualify for this on a regular basis would love to have the premier league reduced to 16 teams and probably vote for no relegation as well. 
    It's all about money now and the greed at the top is bad for the future of football. 
    We need a complete reset but I doubt it will happen. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited September 2024
    Anyone see Kwadwo Baah 'goal' against Man city when he started from the half way line with the bouncing ball and used his strength all the way to the penalty area going past City Defenders and somehow the ball is back to his feet before a hefty shoulder charge is given as a foul as his powers the ball into the net ?

    Been aware of Baah since he was 15 and released from Palace. 
    The only doubt about the lad was he was considered a sandwich short of a picnic so he left London and went to Rochdale where he scored twice in the 4-4 draw at the Valley when he was 17. Nearly signed for Man city but Watford appeared the quicker route to 1st team football but a broken ankle in training put paid to him making his debut after being on the bench at 18 then a new manager sends him on loan to Germany.

    Very few young footballers have a smooth route but at 21 this could be his breakthrough season IF he applies his self in the Championship.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited September 2024
    seth plum said:
    When carrying big squads as we do, with the desire to have a route into the first team from the academy, then the cup competitions can be handy.
    Manchester City should shut up and get on with it.
    The loan system fulfils a bit of the function of getting players ‘first team’ minutes like Nathan at Hartlepool, but there are positives and negatives around the variety of cup competitions, but in my view mainly positives.
    We won the London Senior Cup last season after all 😁
    If City get to the final of all the competitions they're in this season then they will play 72 games.

    I doubt anyone will have any sympathy for them, but i'm sure most people will agree that is too many games. When you factor in international games it's an 80+ game season for some players.

    I believe that is why players like Ben White would rather jump on a plane to top up his tan on international weeks and tournaments after not fancying just making up the numbers in a squad when it appeared he was down the pecking order for the RB slot.
    Man city play a ridiculous amount of games because of their success and Rhodri was talking about strike action before his knee injury last week.
  • Anyone see Kwadwo Baah 'goal' against Man city when he started from the half way line with the bouncing ball and used his strength all the way to the penalty area going past City Defenders and somehow the ball is back to his feet before a hefty shoulder charge is given as a foul as his powers the ball into the net ?

    Been aware of Baah since he was 15 and released from Palace. 
    The only doubt about the lad was he was considered a sandwich short of a picnic so he left London and went to Port Vale where he scored twice in the 4-4 draw at the Valley when he was 17. Nearly signed for Man city but Watford appeared the quicker route to 1st team football but a broken ankle in training put paid to him making his debut after being on the bench at 18 then a new manager sends him on loan to Germany.

    Very few young footballers have a smooth route but at 21 this could be his breakthrough season IF he applies his self in the Championship.
    Still remember him from that 4-4 game against Rochdale a few years ago... Looks like he's finally breaking through at Watford now after a couple of loan spells
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Anyone see Kwadwo Baah 'goal' against Man city when he started from the half way line with the bouncing ball and used his strength all the way to the penalty area going past City Defenders and somehow the ball is back to his feet before a hefty shoulder charge is given as a foul as his powers the ball into the net ?

    Been aware of Baah since he was 15 and released from Palace. 
    The only doubt about the lad was he was considered a sandwich short of a picnic so he left London and went to Port Vale where he scored twice in the 4-4 draw at the Valley when he was 17. Nearly signed for Man city but Watford appeared the quicker route to 1st team football but a broken ankle in training put paid to him making his debut after being on the bench at 18 then a new manager sends him on loan to Germany.

    Very few young footballers have a smooth route but at 21 this could be his breakthrough season IF he applies his self in the Championship.
    Still remember him from that 4-4 game against Rochdale a few years ago... Looks like he's finally breaking through at Watford now after a couple of loan spells

    Cheers FA, it was Rochdale.
    CAFC came back from 2-4 down at HT and at 4-4 in the dying minutes Conor Washington went past the keeper on the right with half the goal open and put his shot into the side netting 🤦🏻‍♂️
    I inadvertently kick a table and my coffee went flying as this was a COVID match.
  • Anyone see Kwadwo Baah 'goal' against Man city when he started from the half way line with the bouncing ball and used his strength all the way to the penalty area going past City Defenders and somehow the ball is back to his feet before a hefty shoulder charge is given as a foul as his powers the ball into the net ?

    Been aware of Baah since he was 15 and released from Palace. 
    The only doubt about the lad was he was considered a sandwich short of a picnic so he left London and went to Port Vale where he scored twice in the 4-4 draw at the Valley when he was 17. Nearly signed for Man city but Watford appeared the quicker route to 1st team football but a broken ankle in training put paid to him making his debut after being on the bench at 18 then a new manager sends him on loan to Germany.

    Very few young footballers have a smooth route but at 21 this could be his breakthrough season IF he applies his self in the Championship.
    Still remember him from that 4-4 game against Rochdale a few years ago... Looks like he's finally breaking through at Watford now after a couple of loan spells

    Cheers FA, it was Rochdale.
    CAFC came back from 2-4 down at HT and at 4-4 in the dying minutes Conor Washington went past the keeper on the right with half the goal open and put his shot into the side netting 🤦🏻‍♂️
    I inadvertently kick a table and my coffee went flying as this was a COVID match.
    Yeah its the one game that Schwartz scored in, and Paul Smyth played at Right Wing-Back... think Aneke hit the bar from inside the six yard box as well
  • Anyone see Kwadwo Baah 'goal' against Man city when he started from the half way line with the bouncing ball and used his strength all the way to the penalty area going past City Defenders and somehow the ball is back to his feet before a hefty shoulder charge is given as a foul as his powers the ball into the net ?

    Been aware of Baah since he was 15 and released from Palace. 
    The only doubt about the lad was he was considered a sandwich short of a picnic so he left London and went to Port Vale where he scored twice in the 4-4 draw at the Valley when he was 17. Nearly signed for Man city but Watford appeared the quicker route to 1st team football but a broken ankle in training put paid to him making his debut after being on the bench at 18 then a new manager sends him on loan to Germany.

    Very few young footballers have a smooth route but at 21 this could be his breakthrough season IF he applies his self in the Championship.
    Still remember him from that 4-4 game against Rochdale a few years ago... Looks like he's finally breaking through at Watford now after a couple of loan spells

    Cheers FA, it was Rochdale.
    CAFC came back from 2-4 down at HT and at 4-4 in the dying minutes Conor Washington went past the keeper on the right with half the goal open and put his shot into the side netting 🤦🏻‍♂️
    I inadvertently kick a table and my coffee went flying as this was a COVID match.
    Yeah its the one game that Schwartz scored in, and Paul Smyth played at Right Wing-Back... think Aneke hit the bar from inside the six yard box as well
    That crazy crazy game
  • Pressure builds on Lopategui. Not in regards to them losing to Liverpool as most people would've expected that anyway, but losing 5-1 is a poor result in a cup they could've prioritised given they don't have any European football.
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  • 4th round draw (and yes shocker Man U get another home draw):

    Brentford v Sheffield Wednesday

    Southampton v Stoke

    Tottenham v Manchester City

    AFC Wimbledon/Newcastle v Chelsea

    Manchester United v Leicester

    Brighton v Liverpool

    Preston v Arsenal

    Aston Villa v Crystal Palace

  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,767
    Did I imagine it or did Pape Sarr just plant a tender little kiss on Timo Werner’s neck after he scored just now?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    United have scored more goals in the first 40 minutes (against Leicester) under RVN than they did in ETH's final five matches in the PL (against West Ham, Brentford, Villa, Spurs & Palace) 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    Incredible save from Liverpool's third choice keeper a minute ago, well worth hunting down
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Newcastle 2 Chelsea 0 FT  Always an enjoyable experience seeing Chelsea lose.

    Newcastle though to the Q.finals.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Yet another cup competition not taken seriously by the top teams, so many players missing due to changes yet will be back for the premier league 
  • More worrying is Palace thru to the QFs with the really big boys not taking the cup seriously 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited October 2024
    Pep seem quite relaxed about losing to Spurs.

    When your super striker stays on the bench you can tell the Kudos in winning the League cup is low down in their priorities this season.

    I guess when you have won this cup 6 times between 2014 and 2021 it seems City weren't totally motivated to win it again. 

    TBF to Man City they have had lots of Injuries as their players are all internationals and the Champions league is an even longer slog now.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Quarter Finals:

    Tottenham v Manchester United

    Arsenal v Crystal Palace

    Newcastle v Brentford

    Southampton v Liverpool

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,348
    Here's hoping Palarse are in "nine goals went past Perry" territory here. However I suspect there is a distinct possibility they may spawn it as the stripey feckers can do.
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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,213
    Shame it's all Premier league sides at this stage. Think last season, Port Vale got themselves to QF. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Spurs, Palace, Newcastle and Liverpool go through IMO.
  • Shame it's all Premier league sides at this stage. Think last season, Port Vale got themselves to QF. 
    Yep, and the season before there was some other random league one team in the quarters. Can't remember who it was but I think they lost at Old Trafford 🤔
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,217
    EFL cup with no EFL teams left in it.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,330
    So, who have we got to do the draw for the Cup? 

    Well, I thought for the home teams, we could get someone from the 1966 England World Cup squad. 

    Great shout. Get him booked. But who should we get to do the away team?  

    Well, I have had an idea, but I am not sure you're going to like it... 

    Cup draw 
  • Jesus saves...

    everyone from the prospect of Palace winning something.
  • Jesus... What a goal for Spurs to concede!!
  • Jesus... What a goal for Spurs to concede!!
    Both were very Spurs type goals. 3-0 up, coasting and it's almost as if there's a desire and expectation to make a game of it. 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Quite literally given United 2 goals in 7 minutes and from 3-0 up suddenly it’s half an hour of holding your breath. Very Spursy 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    How is the “match momentum” statistic calculated?