A question would be would you take Ahadme and Reid from Stevenage for example as your two strikers next season and sell May have some profit and two younger players . Maybe that’s what they’re thinking behind the scenes.
Would question if Reid was a flash in the pan. Obviously a lot of players on that list of top scorers won't be available for various reasons , but Barnsley did release Devante Cole.
A question would be would you take Ahadme and Reid from Stevenage for example as your two strikers next season and sell May have some profit and two younger players . Maybe that’s what they’re thinking behind the scenes.
A question would be would you take Ahadme and Reid from Stevenage for example as your two strikers next season and sell May have some profit and two younger players . Maybe that’s what they’re thinking behind the scenes.
Thought Reid looked rubbish against us.
Thought he looked good at their place.
Is Reid being linked?
No was more of an example from myself , saying someone like Reid or Smith with Ahadme would we take that over May and probably have money to spare.
Regarding Alfie, I can always understand that it makes financial sense for clubs in our position to cash in on players when the fee is too good to turn down and or the player wants away. The cash can be used to help strengthen the squad and everyone’s happy. This is how I see it going with Miles at some point. What bothers me with the Alfie speculation is that we spent £250k and have a sell on clause with Cheltenham. He’s 31 going on 32 and I don’t believe for one second that we’re going to get anywhere near a £1 million let alone £1.5 million. We’re not going to have enough to replace what he gives us and it’s not even as if the player is pressing for a move. I think Jones, if it’s him, will live to regret this sale should it happen. He’ll straight away lose a lot of credit with fans.
Why not 1/1.5m, how can you say we won't get that, it may even be more . You just don't know what clubs are willing to pay...
Always respect your opinion but we’ll have to disagree on this one.
My guess is more like £450k.
:-(
My feeling is you keep a player like May, because even if you recruit another striker who better suits the manager’s intended style of play, he’d be a demon coming off the bench at very least. Teams that get promoted have options.
No way we sell him for 450k
I hope you’re right. 🤞 I’m trying to learn how to be less optimistic.
If he does go, it will be over 1m. We have turned down 800k already.
At risk of derailing the rumours thread further when was the last time we sold a non academy graduate for 7 figures? Must be a while
Bonne to QPR.
If we got a £1m for Bonne - then I'd want at least £5m for alfie.
I don’t get the logic of cashing in on a top striker now because of his age? Especially to a club in the same league? Surely we’d get more spondoolies using his goals to get us promoted to the next level? Make it make sense 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫
You've nailed it good and proper.
Sorry, completely bonkers when we are desperate to get out of this league that we are even contemplating selling May especially to a potential rival in the promotion race.
A question would be would you take Ahadme and Reid from Stevenage for example as your two strikers next season and sell May have some profit and two younger players . Maybe that’s what they’re thinking behind the scenes.
Thought Reid looked rubbish against us.
Thought he looked good at their place.
Is Reid being linked?
No, but give it 3 pages and he will be, along with rumours of him being seen at SL in full kit !
Ahadme... Back to the 'Djaiesemi Method' of signing players who performed against us.
To be fair he been pretty good for Cambridge for a few years .. surprised no one else has taken a chance
Never let the facts get in the way. Just continue posting crap.
Isn’t that the same as everyone else, FFS.
No, not really. The majority of posters on here post in good faith. That's what makes this forum what it is.
If that’s true, then I’d suggest you go over the last 30 odd frenzied pages all about Alfie May and even now people can’t give it a rest. Is there anything more to say, that hasn’t already been said, ad Infinitum?
Nobody is going to come up with the post that suits everyone, apart from @Grapevine49 possibly?
Alfie will either go or stay, we’ll find out sooner rather than later. Wouldn’t be great if everyone could bear that in mind and move on.
Worth remembering that the owners really didn’t want to sign May because of his age and the limited sell on he would likely have. In the end they gave in to Holden insisting and that ended up being their only good decision that summer. It wouldn’t shock me if any move was less based on Jones and more on the owners wanting to sell a 31 year old while his stock is high
Its 100% down to jones who stays and who he wants to bring in ..
Fed up seeing the trust in Jones comments. Trust is earned and half a season with Alfies goals keeping us in the division, doesnt mean we should blindly trust in the messiah that Jones is being made out to be.
Utter madness to even consider letting May go.....but the bonkers regime sanctioned George going so let’s see if they have learnt anything.
Well straight away we’ve improved on Dobson with Berry so we’ll have to wait and see, I personally wouldn’t sell May but teams that do well have a good style and system and if Jones doesn’t think that includes May then so be it.
I hope so but let's wait and see him play first.
If we could live the dream and have our moment on the pitch in the red shirt, it would be in the style of Dobbo.
Covering every blade of grass, some big tackles and good moments on the ball. Then the icing on the cake would be scoring in front of the Covered End as he did in last game at The Valley.
Regarding Alfie, I can always understand that it makes financial sense for clubs in our position to cash in on players when the fee is too good to turn down and or the player wants away. The cash can be used to help strengthen the squad and everyone’s happy. This is how I see it going with Miles at some point. What bothers me with the Alfie speculation is that we spent £250k and have a sell on clause with Cheltenham. He’s 31 going on 32 and I don’t believe for one second that we’re going to get anywhere near a £1 million let alone £1.5 million. We’re not going to have enough to replace what he gives us and it’s not even as if the player is pressing for a move. I think Jones, if it’s him, will live to regret this sale should it happen. He’ll straight away lose a lot of credit with fans.
Why not 1/1.5m, how can you say we won't get that, it may even be more . You just don't know what clubs are willing to pay...
Always respect your opinion but we’ll have to disagree on this one.
Sunderland paid £3-4m for Will Grigg in January 2019 and Ipswich spent several million on fees to get promoted from this division. It’s not that much of a stretch to think there could be one or two clubs in this league willing to pay £1m or so for May.
So clubs looking for promotion will pay big money for May. But, we are so bloody fantastic, we don’t need him. Or we have no promotion ambition ?
Don’t disagree, I was only challenging the idea that no one would pay £1m+ for May.
In all honesty, I was so wrapped up in the kids football this morning I forgot to ask him. I’ve sent him a “oh by way..” WhatsApp message. When I get it you get it, apologies for now.
Absolutely brilliant … 😜
The best part of this is that he’s blanked my WhatsApp message.
Worst ITK on Charlton life and I deserve the stick..
However I’m seeing him Wednesday night and I’ll defo ask him then if he doesn’t reply to my message, he will have something like I said very very close to Alfie.
Good morning, I have an update, I’m pasting the exact conversation:
Me: Forgot to ask you today, anything from Alfie May on the Huddersfield bid!?
Source: Only just noticed you sent me this mate.
Alf is happy at Charlton but with his age the club are interested in making a profit on him if they can.
It is interesting that one source says the club would be interested in making a profit on by far and away our best player, but another source will say that we are no longer shopping in pound land and will only be signing top players. Just doesn't scream cash strapped if we are bothered about making a slight profit on the league top goalscorer.
If these owners are cash strapped, like it's been alluded to, then why would they be looking to make the kind of profit, which would probably be a couple of hundred grand at best, after Cheltenham have also had their slice.
It's hardly selling Leaburn for multi millions (not that I think that's his value) to a premier league club, that doesn't effect us. It's a league rival who are already looking like one of the early favourites for the promotion mix. Can't get over that it's even being entertained tbh.
If they're looking to make a profit of a few hundred grand, without looking at the bigger picture, then it's a bit concerning for me.
Anyway, not to be all negative, Berry, and potentially Mitchell plus Edwards all appear to be decent signings. Hopefully more of that to come and less news of selling our prized assets.
Let’s face it, the squad hasn’t been good enough for last 3 seasons, and they included fan favourites, like it or not, they are haven’t been good enough for promotion, that is either ability or mentality or both! My comments not everyone will agree, but that is a fact. Personally I am excited by that changes behind the scenes, the attitude of jones, and the fact the clubs attitude is no one is bigger than the club.
negative people will always find holes they are not happy with.. this will be a good season, and will be a busy couple of weeks!
We all HOPE next season will be a good season but none of us know.
Im a big fan of NJ and think in him we potentially have a very good fit for our club. I'm cautiously optimistic about next season, with or without May.
But that doesn't mean your two statements aren't contradictory, because clearly they are.
Either players CAN be improved and their performance and that of the team improved or they are to be judged only on the teams finishing position.
No amount of positivity from fans changes that.
Positivity does have a huge impact on the way the team plays.. yes they need to give the crowd a lift, but negative atmosphere certainly impacts performance and players!
Don’t see how they are contradictory, facts are, the players haven’t been good enough, so doesn’t both me if they go, and the ones that stay, need to do better!
Season not even started and already telling those who go on how they should support
FFS... there is our Ipswich signing for the Window then
It wouldn't be a proper window without an Ipswich signing though.....
True Charlie, but the days of picking up Darren Bent and Matt Holland from Ipswich have long since gone; i think you can say the Penney has dropped !
Haha you're right, no more bad Penneys please......... their and our success has reversed hasn't it and the boot might be well and truly on the other foot now.......... and no, before anyone thinks I'm hinting at something.....that's not a rumour they're in for Alfie, Miles, DK, Thierry or anyone else for that matter....... as far as I know.....
I think the issue is you can't just spend £5m without it having to be balanced a bit somewhere somehow. Whether that's through player sales, increased pricing on tickets, more commercial deals and sponsorships, or through adding it on as debt or writing it off as equity, it has to go somewhere. So maybe selling May for more than a million helps to balance the books in that way.
Clubs can't just say "fuck it let's spend spend spend and to hell with the rules"
Berry is a good signing but most number of goals he's scored in one season is 6. Kanu is a prospect and will hopefully kick on but scored 6 in the league last year. Aneke and Leaburn are both capable of scoring but need careful management, even when fit Leaburn got about 12 goals I think.
Add their best seasons all together and they just about equal Alfies numbers last time out or just short. If May goes that is a massive deficit of goals to make up. Could it be done, yes probably it could. But it would be very difficult to do and however you look at it would be at the very least a gamble.
I am definitely not in the "if he goes, I go" school of overreacting. But his departure would certainly be a massive blow and pile a lot of pressure on Jones and the rest of the team.
Admittedly a while ago now but Berry got into double figures three times at Cambridge, and one of those he scored 17.
Given his age shouldn't we be looking to cash in before the end of the window?
I think the issue is you can't just spend £5m without it having to be balanced a bit somewhere somehow. Whether that's through player sales, increased pricing on tickets, more commercial deals and sponsorships, or through adding it on as debt or writing it off as equity, it has to go somewhere. So maybe selling May for more than a million helps to balance the books in that way.
Clubs can't just say "fuck it let's spend spend spend and to hell with the rules"
Actually in League 1 you can! You just have the £billionaires put it in as equity and that investment is directly allowed to reduce your losses and remain with FFP.
When you get to the Championship you can't.
Now, begs the question - put the money in now and get into the Champtionship and closer to break even or sell your best player(s), recruit new players and if you don't go up, keep losing circa £5m-£8m per year infinite....
I'm NOT a £billionaire, but if I was, I would go with option A
Let’s face it, the squad hasn’t been good enough for last 3 seasons, and they included fan favourites, like it or not, they are haven’t been good enough for promotion, that is either ability or mentality or both! My comments not everyone will agree, but that is a fact. Personally I am excited by that changes behind the scenes, the attitude of jones, and the fact the clubs attitude is no one is bigger than the club.
negative people will always find holes they are not happy with.. this will be a good season, and will be a busy couple of weeks!
We all HOPE next season will be a good season but none of us know.
Im a big fan of NJ and think in him we potentially have a very good fit for our club. I'm cautiously optimistic about next season, with or without May.
But that doesn't mean your two statements aren't contradictory, because clearly they are.
Either players CAN be improved and their performance and that of the team improved or they are to be judged only on the teams finishing position.
No amount of positivity from fans changes that.
Positivity does have a huge impact on the way the team plays.. yes they need to give the crowd a lift, but negative atmosphere certainly impacts performance and players!
Don’t see how they are contradictory, facts are, the players haven’t been good enough, so doesn’t both me if they go, and the ones that stay, need to do better!
Season not even started and already telling those who go on how they should support
That’s the attitude.. go to games, sit on your hands and moan all afternoon!!
Let’s face it, the squad hasn’t been good enough for last 3 seasons, and they included fan favourites, like it or not, they are haven’t been good enough for promotion, that is either ability or mentality or both! My comments not everyone will agree, but that is a fact. Personally I am excited by that changes behind the scenes, the attitude of jones, and the fact the clubs attitude is no one is bigger than the club.
negative people will always find holes they are not happy with.. this will be a good season, and will be a busy couple of weeks!
We all HOPE next season will be a good season but none of us know.
Im a big fan of NJ and think in him we potentially have a very good fit for our club. I'm cautiously optimistic about next season, with or without May.
But that doesn't mean your two statements aren't contradictory, because clearly they are.
Either players CAN be improved and their performance and that of the team improved or they are to be judged only on the teams finishing position.
No amount of positivity from fans changes that.
Positivity does have a huge impact on the way the team plays.. yes they need to give the crowd a lift, but negative atmosphere certainly impacts performance and players!
Don’t see how they are contradictory, facts are, the players haven’t been good enough, so doesn’t both me if they go, and the ones that stay, need to do better!
Season not even started and already telling those who go on how they should support
That’s the attitude.. go to games, sit on your hands and moan all afternoon!!
You are in no position to lecture people on who once they pay their season ticket money, how they decide to conduct themselves once inside the stadium
If Alfie May goes and we’re not winning our first home game by 4 or more goals at HT, then I think we should chuck 3000 Alfie May beach balls on the pitch in the second half.
I keep reading that a player had a medical yesterday and other players the deal is done. When will we be told who and when the players have signed?
Edwards will be announced soon (today/tomorrow). Mitchell will be announced next week as Millwall not keen to be posting about transfers so soon after their player passed away.
I think the issue is you can't just spend £5m without it having to be balanced a bit somewhere somehow. Whether that's through player sales, increased pricing on tickets, more commercial deals and sponsorships, or through adding it on as debt or writing it off as equity, it has to go somewhere. So maybe selling May for more than a million helps to balance the books in that way.
Clubs can't just say "fuck it let's spend spend spend and to hell with the rules"
Fortunately we are covering our arses by doing all of the above! FFP, hardly knew her
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The majority of posters on here post in good faith.
That's what makes this forum what it is.
True Charlie, but the days of picking up Darren Bent and Matt Holland from Ipswich have long since gone; i think you can say the Penney has dropped !
Sorry, completely bonkers when we are desperate to get out of this league that we are even contemplating selling May especially to a potential rival in the promotion race.
Nobody is going to come up with the post that suits everyone, apart from @Grapevine49 possibly?
Alfie will either go or stay, we’ll find out sooner rather than later. Wouldn’t be great if everyone could bear that in mind and move on.
Otherwise, it’s how long is a piece of string!
Covering every blade of grass, some big tackles and good moments on the ball. Then the icing on the cake would be scoring in front of the Covered End as he did in last game at The Valley.
If these owners are cash strapped, like it's been alluded to, then why would they be looking to make the kind of profit, which would probably be a couple of hundred grand at best, after Cheltenham have also had their slice.
It's hardly selling Leaburn for multi millions (not that I think that's his value) to a premier league club, that doesn't effect us. It's a league rival who are already looking like one of the early favourites for the promotion mix. Can't get over that it's even being entertained tbh.
If they're looking to make a profit of a few hundred grand, without looking at the bigger picture, then it's a bit concerning for me.
Anyway, not to be all negative, Berry, and potentially Mitchell plus Edwards all appear to be decent signings. Hopefully more of that to come and less news of selling our prized assets.
Chill everyone🍺🍺... Alfie is back for off-season testing with his new blond hi-lites...he's going nowhere...🤔
Not sure if posted already? Didn't see it..
Think someone said we were linked with Bayliss
'Lincoln have won the race to sign Tom Bayliss'
Clubs can't just say "fuck it let's spend spend spend and to hell with the rules"
When you get to the Championship you can't.
Now, begs the question - put the money in now and get into the Champtionship and closer to break even or sell your best player(s), recruit new players and if you don't go up, keep losing circa £5m-£8m per year infinite....
I'm NOT a £billionaire, but if I was, I would go with option A
Fortunately we are covering our arses by doing all of the above! FFP, hardly knew her