Just wary that "with better players around him..." has been used for every underperforming midfield player of recent years. If you're that good you nearly always stand out on your own.
I'm hopeful he'll improve but at the same time, don't think he'd be here if Jones was already in building.
I agree with you. He's not who Jones would have signed. But he's here so Jones has to find out how to get the best out of him.
Just wary that "with better players around him..." has been used for every underperforming midfield player of recent years. If you're that good you nearly always stand out on your own.
I'm hopeful he'll improve but at the same time, don't think he'd be here if Jones was already in building.
I agree with you. He's not who Jones would have signed. But he's here so Jones has to find out how to get the best out of him.
Like Alfie May then ?
Yes. I would not sell May under any circumstances. Unless someone offered a couple of million of course.
In the minority, but I wouldn’t be devastated if May goes. I have total faith in Jones and trust his judgment and decision making.
I support Charlton Athletic, not Alfie May.
It's a bit early to say you have total faith in Jones. Like you and everyone else I hope he proves to be a great success. But it's too early to say I have total faith. If May leaves he better have a good replacement lined up.
But so many are totally invested in Nathan Jones and have been for a long time. Any questioning of his judgment now would bring it all crashing down.
If we put better players around Coventry then he will likely be dropped as we will have better players.
Will be like the 12 days of Christmas from Monday, need an average of a player a day to the 27th to have a full squad...maybe more if we keep selling the better ones.
I think Lloyd Jones is a good CB, had a poor month or so in January but was arguably our best defender up until that.
He’s great in the air, but not great on the deck. Can also be caught out positional. Needs someone alongside him to learn from.
He’s 28, I think if he hasn’t learnt it by now it’s probably too late. I think he was generally okay last season but unfortunately we were all over the place defensively so it’s hard to judge.
So, 13 days until the squad report for pre season training, 13 days until the point where NJ said he wanted the squad rebuilding completed, or very nearly completed. We are a long way off that point. Lots of murmurings but so far one actual signing. I just hope this isn’t another false dawn.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
So, 13 days until the squad report for pre season training, 13 days until the point where NJ said he wanted the squad rebuilding completed, or very nearly completed. We are a long way off that point. Lots of murmurings but so far one actual signing. I just hope this isn’t another false dawn.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
He will sink or swim by his decision making, all we can hope for as fans is he gets it right, regardless of how controversial or odd it may seem now.
We Sell May We get relegated. Jones gets sacked. We are stuck in League 2 for God knows how long & Jones gets a job 6 months later managing a Championship team.
Yes...we all sink or swim by stupid decisions. Just some come up for air sooner than others.
One of the biggest overreactions I’ve ever seen. There’s been clear talk of a big squad re-haul, the same players from last year will not be starting or even in the squad. So examples of previous years don’t really reflect where we’re going.
We’ve been saying that for most of the past 15 years. Losing the best goalscorer we have had in many a year brings with it the possibility of a downside, and we have flirted with relegation the last 2 years. If you add the word might in between get and relegated everything in that post is not an overreaction, rather that we could suffer for years and Jones will be fine. Ask stoke and southampton.
So, 13 days until the squad report for pre season training, 13 days until the point where NJ said he wanted the squad rebuilding completed, or very nearly completed. We are a long way off that point. Lots of murmurings but so far one actual signing. I just hope this isn’t another false dawn.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
By how close the linked players sound I can imagine 4/5 in by the time they’re back for pre season, how many more we expecting after that ?
So, 13 days until the squad report for pre season training, 13 days until the point where NJ said he wanted the squad rebuilding completed, or very nearly completed. We are a long way off that point. Lots of murmurings but so far one actual signing. I just hope this isn’t another false dawn.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
Spot on Large. I'm pretty sure Alfie is off. It will probably happen as our new signing from Swindon is announced to much fanfare.
So, 13 days until the squad report for pre season training, 13 days until the point where NJ said he wanted the squad rebuilding completed, or very nearly completed. We are a long way off that point. Lots of murmurings but so far one actual signing. I just hope this isn’t another false dawn.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
By how close the linked players sound I can imagine 4/5 in by the time they’re back for pre season, how many more we expecting after that ?
I love the shooting down of Coventry. you can be sure that we didn’t see the best of him last season. NJ played an ugly brand of football to keep us up. He’s hardly played for us. if the new signings are at a level we expect then we will se a much better player I’m sure.
I'm excited to see how Coventry shapes up next season. I think he has the potential to be a key player under Nathan Jones.
I love the shooting down of Coventry. you can be sure that we didn’t see the best of him last season. NJ played an ugly brand of football to keep us up. He’s hardly played for us. if the new signings are at a level we expect then we will se a much better player I’m sure.
I'm excited to see how Coventry shapes up next season. I think he has the potential to be a key player under Nathan Jones.
He better, looks like we're really going to need him.
Met Alfie May on a beach on holiday and had a good chat. Nothing that hasn’t been said already, but I can reveal Alfie now has dreadlocks, make of that what you will.
I was on one of your Caribbean beaches in December and also bumped into a man called Alfie (it was Alfonso but let's not split hairs) and he sourced me what he described as "the best sensimelia on the island" I then remained glued to my sunlounger for the day and had a dream where I was a stray dog, and no matter how much barking I did my family and friends would not recognise me and just shooed me away.
I'd been snoring like a tank apparanetly and coughing up the residue from the 6inch long bifta I'd smoked down to the end which I suppose explains the barking.
If we sell Alfie May it will easily top the stupidity of letting Dobbo leave and in a decade where stupidity and our club have set an admittedly low bar selling a man guaranteed to get you goals when we have designs on promotion is like sawing a leg off and expecting to win an arse kicking competition
£1.5M for Alfie, but priceless for us to get of this division.
Assuming any of its reinvested into the team and even if it is, it would have to be used wisely. The track record of transfers, besides May ironically, is dismal.
Just wary that "with better players around him..." has been used for every underperforming midfield player of recent years. If you're that good you nearly always stand out on your own.
I'm hopeful he'll improve but at the same time, don't think he'd be here if Jones was already in building.
I agree with you. He's not who Jones would have signed. But he's here so Jones has to find out how to get the best out of him.
Like Alfie May then ?
Yes. I would not sell May under any circumstances. Unless someone offered a couple of million of course.
So what you mean to say is ..." There are circumstances under which I would indeed sell Alfie May".
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I would not sell May under any circumstances.
Unless someone offered a couple of million of course.
Will be like the 12 days of Christmas from Monday, need an average of a player a day to the 27th to have a full squad...maybe more if we keep selling the better ones.
With regard to Alfie May and his possible departure. On the face of it, it seems bizarre. However, I don’t think Alfie really fits into the system NJ wants to play and he was subbed off a number of games towards the back end of last season, and Alfie himself didn’t seem happy.
It’s a big call for NJ and he will live or die by it. If he thinks we have a better chance of promotion with players who he feels are better suited to his system then so be it. If selling Alfie means we can sign one or two strikers who NJ feels are better suited then it makes some sort of sense. If we sell Alfie and the money isn’t reinvested into the squad then it’s madness.
The clock is ticking. Talking the talk is fine, time to start walking the walk, and quickly.
That's a start.
I agree by the way.
Like London busses, we'll wait all day, and then three will turn up at the same time...🚌🚌🚌
I'd been snoring like a tank apparanetly and coughing up the residue from the 6inch long bifta I'd smoked down to the end which I suppose explains the barking.
If we sell Alfie May it will easily top the stupidity of letting Dobbo leave and in a decade where stupidity and our club have set an admittedly low bar selling a man guaranteed to get you goals when we have designs on promotion is like sawing a leg off and expecting to win an arse kicking competition
There’s been nine teams promoted in the last three years of Alfie being in this league and none of them had him in it.
I like him. And I’m not saying he’s holding us back.
But our chances of actually achieving anything as a football club are not joined to Alfie May’s hip.
Need Alfie to get out.
Grrrr