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POST MATCH THREAD : Port Vale Vs Charlton Athletic : Saturday 6th January 2024
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Appleton needed to make subs, not even earlier, just make more of them full stop. Like Anderson, bless him, needed to come off but stayed on the full match.
I thought we looked bereft of ideas. Even if we broke and got into good positions, we went backwards and stopped the move, resorting to booting it up to Kanu who had a torrid time.
Whereas Port Vale, whatever we might think of them, cut through us with such ease. Hence why they had five times as many shots as us.
Just imagine we had 29 shots.
And this is how cruel football is, we still could have won it at the end with Dobbo/handball0 -
Dobson wouldn’t get in a conference team , the mans a joke25
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This is the nub of it for me. I didn’t expect anything today, and ultimately people could argue it’s a point and stops the rot of 3 defeats on the bounce. However, a point to stop the rot is typically, hard earned off the back of conceding no more than say one goal. In addition, in the context of the last 10 games or however long it’s been since we won, a point is pretty useless, particularly in this manner.Valleyfan2 said:Late goals beyond ridiculous now. Appleton’s post match comments completely deluded. Pissed off big time.
The thing that really grates me is that any half decent manager worth their salt, would be all over this late goals debacle. Even more criminal is that fact we get what really shout be a late winner, having scored for a third time, and we still can’t see it out. These are professionals, manager and players. All the players on the pitch today bar Tyreece Campbell and Kanu should have the experience to see that result out, and the manager with his time in the game, definitely should.Then, we get yet another load of babble in his post match interview. I understand he can’t dig them out given the lack of options we have, specifically publicly, but he can’t seriously be coming out with some of the stuff he has and be expected to be taken seriously.
I think he’s already lost the fan base partly due to the fact a lot of people including me, weren’t that up for him in the first place, plus the bad run. But, if he had maybe come out with some halfway sensible post match views, then maybe we would give him a bit more slack.
He’s definitely not inherited a great squad, I’ll give him that, but for me, his actions and words over the last few weeks have hastened a sort of self destruction.And now, my worry is that if these owners are serious about building for promotion next season, I absolutely don’t want it to be with his players or players he thinks we’ll do the job. I think he’ll he gone by Feb, therefore we shouldn’t trust him with a say in who comes in8 -
More like on the piss, he should be breathalysed after comments like that.jakecafc said:
He's taking the piss.Addick_8 said:Appleton “very proud of the lads because they showed how tough and resilient they are. They're 'spirited', 'never say die' and 'never know when they're beat”Someone tell him we have 1 win in 10 please2 -
“From a resilience point of view, they just keep coming back. It’s never say die, they don’t want to give up”We gave up the lead 3 times btw16
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Glad you have faith that these fuckwits will do any decent signings in any window let alone this one. The 2 signings announced yesterday look like the same old crap.lancashire lad said:I don't know what some of you expect from what currently is a mid L1 team with 6 first teamers injured with inexperienced youngsters making up the numbers.
We are a week into the window and it is far to early to make any conclusions.Just untwist your proverbial knickers and see how the month ends up
Appleton is a useless twat who has the personality of a rocking horse and if he was a decent manager, he might be acceptable, but a shit manager with zero personality is the worst of all worlds.
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Genuinely sounds more reasonable if he was role-playing as the opposition manager than our own. Perhaps he was given the wrong script to read from.Addick_8 said:“From a resilience point of view, they just keep coming back. It’s never say die, they don’t want to give up”We gave up the lead 3 times btw2 -
As it see it this is a turning point. We didnt lose & by the Peterborough match we will have 3 or 4 new players in the matchday squad along with a returning Alfie May.
As the Labour Party said in 1997.......
"Things,....can only get better"2 -
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Had every expectation that we would lose that game 4-3 even with seconds left on the clock. This manager has the tactical nous of Blackadder’s Baldrick. When you are 3-2 up away from home with mere minutes to go, how about going 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 absolutely packing the midfield? I am absolutely lost as to how an ex-professional footballer like Andy Scott cannot see these failings as we unqualified fans can? Can only imagine he is buying time to save his own face/a*se.On the more positive side, was pleased to see all front three score, thought one of Ash’s reflex saves was breathtaking and was great to hear and be amongst the chanting. Learnt that the Jones song contains the words ‘broken ankles’ thought it was ‘closing angles’, which I thought was a bit too well thought out and sophisticated for a player chant. Learn something new every day…2
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I think he thinks he was managing Port Vale.Addick_8 said:“From a resilience point of view, they just keep coming back. It’s never say die, they don’t want to give up”We gave up the lead 3 times btw4 -
I don't think Appleton will be here next season, but I don't think he's going anywhere just yet.9
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Am I the only one who doesn’t really care about his post match comments?The last manager was brilliant at all the PR stuff, and where did that get us.I’ll want Appleton out if, by the end of the season, we are still not winning matches despite our recruiting the players he wanted.Enough of the mass hysteria already.10
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FfsMezza07 said:Dobson wouldn’t get in a conference team , the mans a joke0 -
I get that MA doesn't want to call out the shortcomings of the current squad and what's been going wrong but I do wish he'd make at least a couple of nods to it as I think that would go some way to close the distance between him and some of us fans.
I know the quality of the opposition will increase over the next month or so but I really am hopeful that with a better midfield (injured players back and new signings) and perhaps Chuks, JCH and Alfie in the mix it'll give our defence some breathing room and we'll be able to hold our own or better.
I'm still in the give him a chance camp.3 -
Thomas has been shocking this season. Albeit partly because he is constantly being played out of position at left back. But ‘ok-ish’ !!??JamesSeed said:
Thomas has been ok-ish generally this season, but looked awful today. Jones had his worst game for us today, and has looked more shaky than normal in recent weeks. Hector has improved and has looked more solid in our last seven games.Davo55 said:
I think that's harsh on Jones. He was a bit off his game today but he's been our best defender this season by a big margin. And Thomas is way off the pace for a league one side.Dazzler21 said:I think maybe both Jones and Hector aren't good enough. To be honest they seem a similar level to TT.But all of the defenders would look better if our midfield wasn’t so easily outmuscled.3 -
I heard that as his comment on the fact we were going for a 4th goal at the death.Addick_8 said:“From a resilience point of view, they just keep coming back. It’s never say die, they don’t want to give up”We gave up the lead 3 times btw0 -
Id rather he had a pair of bollocks and said that the performance wasnt good enough and we cant keep conceding like this, yeseastterrace6168 said:CAFCsayer said:
We just got absolutely battered by port vale and were very lucky to get a point, do you think that is ok?eastterrace6168 said:
Tbf, what's he supposed to say, we were good at times and shite at other times...Lincsaddick said:
geezer lives in a parallel universe where all is peaches and creamDoomer Jon said:
So you seriously think that is what he should have said, great...🙄5 -
Couple of things….1. This looks like handball to me and would’ve been a chance to make it 3-4
2. Dobson’s done all the hard work getting into position but then he tries a weird flick instead of just smacking the ball at the goal? Why?5 - Sponsored links:
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His feeble and weak voice/accent means I rarely hit the play button.JamesSeed said:Am I the only one who doesn’t really care about his post match comments?The last manager was brilliant at all the PR stuff, and where did that get us.I’ll want Appleton out if, by the end of the season, we are still not winning matches despite our recruiting the players he wanted. Enough of the mass hysteria already.0 -
After 3 consecutive defeats this feels like a victory to me, scant consolation I know but at least I’m not going to be depressed and pissed off all weekend and into next week!
If and it’s a big if, we get a few more players of quality into the building this week who are fit enough to be considered for next weeks team, then we might see some improvement.Yeah, I know, I’ll wake up in a minute and realise the nightmare goes on.2 -
Looks like he may have ran ahead of the ball so a flick was all he could do.Callumcafc said:Couple of things….1. This looks like handball to me and would’ve been a chance to make it 3-4
2. Dobson’s done all the hard work getting into position but then he tries a weird flick instead of just smacking the ball at the goal? Why?3 -
Callumcafc said:Couple of things….1. This looks like handball to me and would’ve been a chance to make it 3-4
2. Dobson’s done all the hard work getting into position but then he tries a weird flick instead of just smacking the ball at the goal? Why?Do people just film the entire match on their phone?7 -
I went today but I couldn’t slag them off even if I wanted to. I thought they gave of their best even the young lads who shouldn’t need to be thrown into to the deep end week after week.We definitely look better with Louis Watson in the team though, then again a lot of us have been saying that for a while and I know it’s no consolation but if we think our defence is bad Vale’s is just as bad if not worse.Not many on the pre match thread thought we’d come away with anything and I would’ve been happy with a point so all in all and despite another late, late gut wrenching goal against I’m satisfied that we kept Vale below us in the table. With some reinforcements and others back from injury I’m mildly confident that we won’t be flirting with the bottom four.9
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My live feed failed at 2-2. I was delighted to see on BBC website we went 3-2 up and decided that I was the bad luck for the team. Turns out it's them, not me!2
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Penalty isn't it if the ref sees it. Prevents our number 2 scoring or missing - a relatively open goal - at the back post. But then we'd have likely missed the penalty anyway so i supposed it's evened out.Callumcafc said:Couple of things….1. This looks like handball to me and would’ve been a chance to make it 3-4
2. Dobson’s done all the hard work getting into position but then he tries a weird flick instead of just smacking the ball at the goal? Why?0 -
cabbles said:Valleyfan2 said:Late goals beyond ridiculous now. Appleton’s post match comments completely deluded. Pissed off big time.
The thing that really grates me is that any half decent manager worth their salt, would be all over this late goals debacle. Even more criminal is that fact we get what really shout be a late winner, having scored for a third time, and we still can’t see it out.
I totally agree with this but, despite the disappointment of another late goal conceded, I had a great day today. The pubs we went to were good, the people we met were lovely, the atmosphere in the away end was positive and there was no toxicity after the game.Things are horrible at the moment but I still love Charlton and I love days like today. Hopefully, in the not too distant future, these lovely days will be accompanied by three points!13 -
I have forgotten what it is like to enjoy the weekend after a Charlton win2
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that was ball to hand and his hand/arm wasn’t in an unnatural position. Would be fuming if that were given against us. Clutching at straws in my opinion.3
