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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for2 -
The Ikpeazu link is journalism 101. Link him to a side, mention another side who needs a striker, bonus points if they played against them recently, even better if they scored as it adds validity to the fluff piece.2
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Ikpeazu would do a job, but it would be very disappointing if he was the only striker signed in the window, especially if CBT leaves
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There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.fenaddick said:
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.4 -
When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.11 -
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solutionBraziliance said:
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.fenaddick said:
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.0 -
The same JCH we’ve already bid for and tried to sign? Yous honestly rather have no one?golfaddick said:
This.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
At least with JCH you get goals to add to his presence & physicality.2 -
Don't have a good feeling about this one to be honest. Gives us a new dynamic in terms of striker profile, but a complete journeyman who has only featured 11 times with 1 goal for Port Vale this year, seems a very different profile to Goodwin who we were in for yesterday.
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Of course, this has worked out well for us over the last few years.CoveredEndAndy said:It’s good your not in charge then, because if your list is just the top player and they all want to go somewhere else we’re screwed, so we have to look at options.He looked very good against us and put a shift in.
Can we really base a signing just on how they play against us? I could understand if they had a proven record AND they played well against us, but this is a striker that's just a unit who's known to put himself about and make himself busy, if we are playing 5 at the back, we need more than that.
If Jayden Stockley returned I doubt people would be too happy, I want us to improve on the players that leave, not stagnate. Uche scores less than Stockley, he's not as good in the air as the Stockley and his hold up play is probably of a similar level.
Anyway I'll be careful from how I post from now as it's verging on clutter again when it's just a link.1 -
not just a small paragraph in the sky blog now
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Brought in to challenge for a place at Port Vale. Can't blame people for wanting us to get someone better.king addick said:When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.6 -
Based on the bids we were making, it gave me the impression (along with Coventry) that we have more to spend than 500k. I was combining those fees ans basically saying, instead of scrambling around, why not just put our budget on someone like that as we have numbers in other areas and probably enough to see us through the season.fenaddick said:
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solutionBraziliance said:
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.fenaddick said:
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
This could go back and forth all day, clearly people are happy at this kind of signing and I'm not, it looks genuine as well now so I wish him the best if he does sign.0 -
In October he said thatking addick said:When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.
In January they're happy for him to speak to other clubs.....0 -
Would be a weird one after agreeing 500k for JCH and 400k for Goodwin. Can only assume we are still hopeful of JCH or someone else on a perm and Ikpeazu will be a short term contract during which it’s up to him and earn a longer deal but his record is very unimpressive.3
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Not getting JCH was always a possibility though regardless of money and planning. I agree it’s underwhelming but options will be more limited in January where some players aren’t interested, clubs won’t let them go etc.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I’d rather we didn’t miss out on our targets in mid January, even if they’re not our first choices because the alternative is likely players further down the list or no one.2 -
We tried for better options, they didn’t work out. Ikpeazu is next on the list.
We still need to fill the gap between now and the summer because Leaburn isn’t coming back soon and Aneke is made of glass, we’ve found a L1 player to do that for us.
All the better options are going to be available in the summer window at this point.
Can’t help but think that people just want a flashy signing (name like JCH or young up and comer like Goodwin) and when you back yourself into a corner trying to please fans you end up overpaying for a flop like Will Grigg.19 -
He's just a lump.2
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Vfrf said:Don't have a good feeling about this one to be honest. Gives us a new dynamic in terms of striker profile, but a complete journeyman who has only featured 11 times with 1 goal for Port Vale this year, seems a very different profile to Goodwin who we were in for yesterday.
Especially if we lose CBT, who is our second highest scorer and only player with the ability to create something out of nothing.0 -
From ITTV:Comments from the PV forum regarding Uche:"I'm livid if Uche goes, He is a constant threat, A really good unselfish hard working footballer who is beginning to connect with Wilson and Chislett. Who we do play up there some soft in there application player, Ffs Vale keep Uche he makes going Vale worth going for me if he goes be a truly woeful few days. I don't care if he only scored 1 goal is all round game gives you something to look forwards too on a home game. If he goes that leaves very few who have selling appeal to go watch. I'll be very disappointed if he is allowed to go. Unbelievable""I see Uche as important. That's because as a target man he enables us to play forward that way. Not just through a pile of passes going sideways and backwards. Plus of course he's a presence in both boxes. He's played for some good clubs and, although not prolific as a goal scorer, that says he's widely valued as the type of player he is.""Wycombe & Charlton will both know Uche isn't a prolific goalscorer, that's not why they'd be interested in signing him, it's the other side of his game.""My guess is that's exactly what they're thinking. When you already have L1's top scorer, Uche would be the perfect foil for him. So I hope Vale are bearing this in mind when they negotiate a decent fee for him and have a replacement in the bag before we let him go. Otherwise, it would be a massive act of self-harm."Ties in my post above which is why you shouldn't solely look at goalscoring records.
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Regardless of whether you think Ikpeazu is a good signing or not, the speed from which we are moving from target to target is impressive, feel like in previous seasons we would wait till deadline day to sign a free agent17
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No one thinks he's a very good signing.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then he's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand.
If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think he would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).5 -
Thanks Charlie boyCallumcafc said:We tried for better options, they didn’t work out. Ikpeazu is next on the list.
We still need to fill the gap between now and the summer because Leaburn isn’t coming back soon and Aneke is made of glass, we’ve found a L1 player to do that for us.
All the better options are going to be available in the summer window at this point.
Can’t help but think that people just want a flashy signing (name like JCH or young up and comer like Goodwin) and when you back yourself into a corner trying to please fans you end up overpaying for a flop like Will Grigg.
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I said myself it isnt the signing we really want. However, he can play at the level and do a job. He wont be a top goalscorer but we need a big lump to do what big strikers do and become a foil for Alfie May and co.Croydon said:
Brought in to challenge for a place at Port Vale. Can't blame people for wanting us to get someone better.king addick said:When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.4 -
Just on the budget thing I think that’s too simplistic a view on things. If we put all our budget on 1 striker then we might not be able to afford the CB/DM Swisdom posted about earlier or any other signings we may need. I totally see your point, I just think we have other areas of the squad we need to spend on too.Braziliance said:
Based on the bids we were making, it gave me the impression (along with Coventry) that we have more to spend than 500k. I was combining those fees ans basically saying, instead of scrambling around, why not just put our budget on someone like that as we have numbers in other areas and probably enough to see us through the season.fenaddick said:
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solutionBraziliance said:
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.fenaddick said:
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
This could go back and forth all day, clearly people are happy at this kind of signing and I'm not, it looks genuine as well now so I wish him the best if he does sign.0 -
Lol the logic is sound though.robroy said:
Thanks Charlie boyCallumcafc said:We tried for better options, they didn’t work out. Ikpeazu is next on the list.
We still need to fill the gap between now and the summer because Leaburn isn’t coming back soon and Aneke is made of glass, we’ve found a L1 player to do that for us.
All the better options are going to be available in the summer window at this point.
Can’t help but think that people just want a flashy signing (name like JCH or young up and comer like Goodwin) and when you back yourself into a corner trying to please fans you end up overpaying for a flop like Will Grigg.1 -
Kermorgant had one in about 36 for Leicester, just saying. It is about what he can bring the team.18
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I wasn't sold on him. Like when Kirk played against us and reviewed good reviews, I just found the play to be so obvious and predictable.Yann897 said:
He was a lot more than that when we played them a few weeks ago , a constant threat .mendonca said:He's just a lump.
I wouldn't overestimate the quality of our defence when judging his performance against us.
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Because one man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa.Covered End said:
No one thinks it's a very good signing.Braziliance said:
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.fenaddick said:
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages tooBraziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.Scoham said:
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.Braziliance said:
But he will also cost a fee?DOUCHER said:
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be hugeBraziliance said:
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then it's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand.
If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think it would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).
I don't believe he would be as important to us as he is allegedly to Port Vale, the reviews seem mixed.
I'll just wait and see (all we can do), either way, this is firmly starting to look like a typical January if it wasn't for Conor Coventry, especially if CBT does go and potentially Dobson.
Failed to get out top targets (except Coventry)
Failed to keep our prized assets (likely)
Added stop gaps and unproven players to the ranks to tide us over. Gillesphey will be Hector's replacement likely, so we still need another centre back.
I'll get stick for it, as anyone who is critical of them* does, but we are miles off it still and a striker that doesn't score (I understand he has more to his game) and a third choice goalie isn't going to cut it.0 -
It’s not a massive data sample because he’s only played 682 minutes but I thought some of this was interesting…
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