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  • MrWalker said:

    Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-68789981

    What a load of old shit. 😉 
  • MrWalker said:

    Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-68789981

    @oohaahmortimer, Managing Director ?  :)
  • .The wettest 18 months on record for the UK will result in shortages of home grown food and crops this year. Fields are all so wet, many crops have failed and still too wet to sow for this year. Prices are likely to rise as a result.
  • It's too late , the world is ending.
  • MrWalker said:

    Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-68789981

    Where there’s muck, there's money
  • edited April 17
    R0TW said:
    MrWalker said:

    Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-68789981

    Where there’s muck, there's money
    Ottmar Edenhofer served as one of the co-chairs of the IPCC from 2008 -2015. He was recently quoted as saying: 
    One has to free oneself from the illusion that climate policies are environmental policies anymore. We redistribute the world’s wealth via climate policy.

    Climate Change is a $1tn a year industry and is set to double that figure in the next 5-10 years.
  • It’s not climate change that’s the problem, it’s man made climate relocation that we should probably be more concerned about.


  • It’s not climate change that’s the problem, it’s man made climate relocation that we should probably be more concerned about.


    They've don't a short term localised solution (in this case they've over done it) which is incredibly resource intensive and in the medium term only makes the global problem much worse.
  • Pretty sure French nuclear reactors are gradually being taken off line , and we are sending them electricity. The reactors are aging and need replacing. I'm no expert but I remember hearing this as the energy crisis hit. As NJ says they are 2 years nearer(in this case) to going out of service (rather than getting fit)
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  • I see Scotland are reneging on their 2030 climate targets. Not good news and I suspect they won't be the last. No-one's taking this seriously enough.
  • Stig said:
    I see Scotland are reneging on their 2030 climate targets. Not good news and I suspect they won't be the last. No-one's taking this seriously enough.
    Or being more honest / realistic on when and how they ultimately get there? 
  • Stig said:
    I see Scotland are reneging on their 2030 climate targets. Not good news and I suspect they won't be the last. No-one's taking this seriously enough.
    Or being more honest / realistic on when and how they ultimately get there? 
    Yeah, when they are out of power and someone else carries the can ;)

    To be fair to them I think they are trapped in a situation they don't have control over and I think their criticisms of the Westminster Government are perfectly valid, but I suspect we'll see as the date gets nearer lots of other countries that signed up to COP targets will be reprioritising other things and ultimately Copping out. 
  • Another step in the right direction

    Workers at the UK's last coal-fired power plant prepare to say goodbye

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-68912006

  • Stig said:
    I see Scotland are reneging on their 2030 climate targets. Not good news and I suspect they won't be the last. No-one's taking this seriously enough.
    Or being more honest / realistic on when and how they ultimately get there? 
    Then it’ll probably be too late. More should have been done to meet those targets not a shrug of the shoulders and kick it down the road. By the time those that think the targets are unrealistic realise we’re fucked we’ll be fucked. Perfect.
  • MrWalker said:
    Another step in the right direction

    Workers at the UK's last coal-fired power plant prepare to say goodbye

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-68912006

    Good news but in the meantime China opens a new coal fired power station every week. 
  • Stig said:
    I see Scotland are reneging on their 2030 climate targets. Not good news and I suspect they won't be the last. No-one's taking this seriously enough.
    Or being more honest / realistic on when and how they ultimately get there? 
    Then it’ll probably be too late. More should have been done to meet those targets not a shrug of the shoulders and kick it down the road. By the time those that think the targets are unrealistic realise we’re fucked we’ll be fucked. Perfect.
    But in the case of Scotland wasn't it more they went further than most and have now reigned that in to what might be more realistic? Its not simply a case of kicking the can down the road on this occasion.
  • edited April 29
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-clean-energy-was-top-driver-of-chinas-economic-growth-in-2023/

    Clean energy contributed a record 11.4tn yuan ($1.6tn) to China’s economy in 2023, accounting for all of the growth in investment and a larger share of economic growth than any other sector.

    Whilst we kick the can down the road, China is forging ahead with clean energy, and we risk being left behind. 
  • Plastic eating bugs.
    A step in the right direction.

    Plastic-eating bacteria help waste self-destruct

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68927816
  • MrWalker said:
    Plastic eating bugs.
    A step in the right direction.

    Plastic-eating bacteria help waste self-destruct

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68927816
    So don’t hide anything in a hole in the garden as it will self destruct 😆

    Isn’t science clever though. 
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  • As much as I am passionate about leaving this world as clean and unpolluted as I possibly can for future generations and do all that is within my power to respect creation. I do think the cleaning up of one's soul is of a far greater urgency. Man-made aswell! 
  • As much as I am passionate about leaving this world as clean and unpolluted as I possibly can for future generations and do all that is within my power to respect creation. I do think the cleaning up of one's soul is of a far greater urgency. Man-made aswell! 
    Why do people with “faith” feel the need to to build it into something as straightforward and non religious as being green”. 
  • MrWalker said:
    Plastic eating bugs.
    A step in the right direction.

    Plastic-eating bacteria help waste self-destruct

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68927816
    So don’t hide anything in a hole in the garden as it will self destruct 😆

    Isn’t science clever though. 
    What if it escapes? My cheap car will dissolve, electric cables will short etc Its good but needs to be kept on a leash
  • edited May 2
    There isn't a recycling thread, but when you want to do the right thing and have to put yourself out to, it's so annoying. I'm trying to get rid of stuff and want to recycle old VHS tapes and CD's, but unless I drive over 100 miles to Cheltenham, or pay through the nose for a recycling specialist to collect them,  I have loads of pre recorded and blanks destined for landfill. The hard plastic casings are just as bad 😡

    Edit -I use old CD's as coasters, but we could never host that many guests 😉
  • swordfish said:
    There isn't a recycling thread, but when you want to do the right thing and have to put yourself out to, it's so annoying. I'm trying to get rid of stuff and want to recycle old VHS tapes and CD's, but unless I drive over 100 miles to Cheltenham, or pay through the nose for a recycling specialist to collect them,  I have loads of pre recorded and blanks destined for landfill. The hard plastic casings are just as bad 😡
    That is frustrating and all of these little things do make a difference. This is one thing that should be obvious, recycling should be made much easier particularly of some of these niche things like you mention and batteries, lightbulbs, electrics etc. 

    Not quite as bad but a slightly annoying thing for me is we recently had a big clear out and had a load of stuff to get rid of. Sorted it all into categories and wanted to take it all to our local recycling centre which is 5 mins away in Sidcup but we are unable to as that is run by Bexley council and we live barely across the boarder in Greenwich. The nearest Greenwich one is half an hour away. Just unnecessary and inefficient.  
  • swordfish said:
    There isn't a recycling thread, but when you want to do the right thing and have to put yourself out to, it's so annoying. I'm trying to get rid of stuff and want to recycle old VHS tapes and CD's, but unless I drive over 100 miles to Cheltenham, or pay through the nose for a recycling specialist to collect them,  I have loads of pre recorded and blanks destined for landfill. The hard plastic casings are just as bad 😡
    That is frustrating and all of these little things do make a difference. This is one thing that should be obvious, recycling should be made much easier particularly of some of these niche things like you mention and batteries, lightbulbs, electrics etc. 

    Not quite as bad but a slightly annoying thing for me is we recently had a big clear out and had a load of stuff to get rid of. Sorted it all into categories and wanted to take it all to our local recycling centre which is 5 mins away in Sidcup but we are unable to as that is run by Bexley council and we live barely across the boarder in Greenwich. The nearest Greenwich one is half an hour away. Just unnecessary and inefficient.  
    I sympathize. I use one local to me that's actually over the county border, but I'm a familiar face there and have never been asked where I live. I ought to use one in my own county really, but I don't lose sleep over it 😉
  • swordfish said:
    swordfish said:
    There isn't a recycling thread, but when you want to do the right thing and have to put yourself out to, it's so annoying. I'm trying to get rid of stuff and want to recycle old VHS tapes and CD's, but unless I drive over 100 miles to Cheltenham, or pay through the nose for a recycling specialist to collect them,  I have loads of pre recorded and blanks destined for landfill. The hard plastic casings are just as bad 😡
    That is frustrating and all of these little things do make a difference. This is one thing that should be obvious, recycling should be made much easier particularly of some of these niche things like you mention and batteries, lightbulbs, electrics etc. 

    Not quite as bad but a slightly annoying thing for me is we recently had a big clear out and had a load of stuff to get rid of. Sorted it all into categories and wanted to take it all to our local recycling centre which is 5 mins away in Sidcup but we are unable to as that is run by Bexley council and we live barely across the boarder in Greenwich. The nearest Greenwich one is half an hour away. Just unnecessary and inefficient.  
    I sympathize. I use one local to me that's actually over the county border, but I'm a familiar face there and have never been asked where I live. I ought to use one in my own county really, but I don't lose sleep over it 😉
    They ask for a council tax bill and ID before letting you in around here. hardly exactly encouraging recycling. More likely to lead to fly tipping which costs more than letting some people that technically live in another LA use the centre. But whatever.
  • Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences. 
  • edited May 2
    Stig said:
    Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences. 
    It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.

    It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authority's tip to take their landfill rubbish to one further away, but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.

    The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.

    It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not. 
  • I'm trying to become minimalist and buying seconds/recycled where possible, but just take a look at the cost of recycled garden furniture!!!!! Just bought bird feeders made of recycled materials. Cheap but destroyed by squirrels within minutes 😟 False economy. Got rid of my old NAD amp earlier, bike earlier in week, LP's up next followed by Charlton related stuff, books, programmes and VHS tapes. What a load of old Sh*t 😉
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