It’s very disappointing that only two games in I can’t see a way that we’ll get anything out of the game. We’ve definitely had a bit of bad luck with injuries but I still think we’re miles off where we ought to be at this point. Three weeks to get things sorted so let’s hope we don’t leave ourselves playing catch up all season.
just 'the way it goes' .. BUT, our constant, continual injury/unfit issues are bordering on the completely ridiculous.. are we still signing players that are 'bargains' cos they are always on the tom n dick list ?
This might be the third competitive fixture of the most recent new era but so far there is little evidence to suggest to me we are any stronger than this time last season. Our 4-3-3 line up against Sheffield Weds in August last year looked much more balanced and stable.
Someone also needs to explain to me why, when there is such an obvious lack of strike force, our most potent threat is playing in defence.
Our recent history with Posh have been close encounter low scores, with one goal either way. but feel we will get the draw maybe 1-1 with Alfie getting off the mark, would be well happy with that, of course 3 points would be better, but can't have everything...can you..🤔
It is still too early to see any patterns. The midfield could still be pretty strong with Dobbo, Camara and Anderson. CBT has looked unplayable at times. Just that forward player playing with May is an issue. But it is a potentially big issue. Kirk doesn't seem to be able to contribute much but I think he is better than he is showing. As it is an away game, maybe we could play an extra midfielder there, like Payne.
And of course our ability to change things if the game doesn't go our way initially is another issue. From experience, when we go into a game like this with issues like we have, it rarely ends well for us. We may need to get the first two goals to win it IMO so I am expecting a defeat.
I wonder if they’ll risk Edun starting on the left and playing CBT upfront with May.
I’d genuinely rather something more radical like Thomas upfront with May to help hold the ball up for him than Kirk. At least he’ll add some physicality.
Wasn’t it mistakes by midfielders that cost us all three goals?
you're saying that midfielders are not there to help the defence ?
No I’m not Lincs, far from it.
But you said the ‘defence’ needs to tighten up after conceding 3 in Wales. Most people would think you meant the defence were at fault, rather than the midfield.
I’d agree we need to tighten up defensively, and that would include the midfield, which I think is probably what you’re saying.
Forty five games left to play, it's hopefully a work in progress and we have enough in the squad to cover for injuries without having to play players out of their natural positions. We still haven't solved the 'partner for May' issue and until that's done I can't see us getting ahead in games and staying there. Love a draw but lack of fire power tells me a defeat is more likely.
People saying CBT up front. I can’t see it. What he is good at is getting the ball wide and running 1v1 at the full back. If you play him centrally it’s a lot harder to get him 1v1. Yes he’s quick but we already have May who can run in behind. If we don’t want CBT at wing back then we will have to play 3-4-3 or 4-3-3
With Fraser’s injury maybe 3-4-3 is a good option? Payne and CBT either side of May, Dobson and Camara as a 2 behind them, Edun LWB and then the usual rest of defence
This is the closest to official confirmation... people have said they've heard the Fraser injury is more serious than the club is saying publicly...
The Addicks picked up three fresh injuries to further dampen boss
Dean Holden’s mood – with three additional names revealed as absent for
the trip to South Wales due to fitness reasons. Tyreece Campbell was
seen leaving Rodney Parade in a protective boot, with Manny Egbo and
Richard Chin also suffering knocks.
Scott Fraser took a heavy knock during the 1-0 win over Leyton Orient
on Saturday – with Lloyd Jones and Nathan Asiimwe also missing and
requiring assessment.
Holden explained: “[Fraser] wasn’t available for us tonight. Nathan
Asiimwe the same, he picked something up. Lloyd Jones. We’ll take stock
and see where we’re at.
“We lost [Richard] Chin early through injury, we lost Manny [Egbo] in
the warm up. Tyreece [Campbell] suffered a kick to his ankle and rolled
his ankle. We’ll have to see how that is over the next couple of days.
We’ve gone from having just Miles [Leaburn] injured to picking up a few
now.”
I must admit, our capitulation to Newport surprised me. I’m a bit worried now whether we have the right manager. Hopefully I’ll be proved wrong. Tomorrow’s game. 2-0 to Posh.
People saying CBT up front. I can’t see it. What he is good at is getting the ball wide and running 1v1 at the full back. If you play him centrally it’s a lot harder to get him 1v1. Yes he’s quick but we already have May who can run in behind. If we don’t want CBT at wing back then we will have to play 3-4-3 or 4-3-3
With Fraser’s injury maybe 3-4-3 is a good option? Payne and CBT either side of May, Dobson and Camara as a 2 behind them, Edun LWB and then the usual rest of defence
I like that. It free CBT up from his defensive issues, and gives us a really strong left side of Thomas (LCB), Edun (LWB) and CBT (left attacker). With so few goals in a midfield without Fraser, we can't afford to have CBT knackered after an hour from chasing back their opposite winger.
Camara has 50 - 55 mins mins in his legs before he needs to come off. Verified by Holden this week. That’s a 1st half with these new time wasting rules.
Edun has played 85 mins in total since last season, 70 of which was Tuesday evening.
Chucking them in to a full bloodied league match 4 days later will surely run a high risk of further injury?
Not ideal at all but these guys need to be managed for the next few weeks.
Players aren’t fit! There are gaps in the squad. These will be filled, maybe by September…expect it’ll take January as well.
The season isn’t going to fall apart on Saturday.
It’s also not going to get going until mid October.
I must admit, our capitulation to Newport surprised me. I’m a bit worried now whether we have the right manager. Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong. Tomorrow’s game. 2-0 to Posh.
Come on Charlton, prove me wrong!
Me too.....the lovefest with Holden is not warranted yet. His insistence on playing 3-5-2 when its obvious we don't have the right players for it baffles me. In fact when I was home for the Aberdeen game we were woeful playing those tactics and should have been 4-0 down at halftime. Call me old fashioned but give me 4-4-2 all day long. We need a hold-up striker to play alongside Alfie. Leaburn's injury record is not great.
Camara has 50 - 55 mins mins in his legs before he needs to come off. Verified by Holden this week. That’s a 1st half with these new time wasting rules.
Edun has played 85 mins in total since last season, 70 of which was Tuesday evening.
Chucking them in to a full bloodied league match 4 days later will surely run a high risk of further injury?
Not ideal at all but these guys need to be managed for the next few weeks.
Players aren’t fit! There are gaps in the squad. These will be filled, maybe by September…expect it’ll take January as well.
The season isn’t going to fall apart on Saturday.
It’s also not going to get going until mid October.
Enjoy watching it all come together.
Ok this a far too sensible post for CL !! Come on own up reveal yourself 😂
I must admit, our capitulation to Newport surprised me. I’m a bit worried now whether we have the right manager. Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong. Tomorrow’s game. 2-0 to Posh.
Come on Charlton, prove me wrong!
Me too.....the lovefest with Holden is not warranted yet. His insistence on playing 3-5-2 when it’s obvious we don't have the right players for it baffles me. In fact when I was home for the Aberdeen game we were woeful playing those tactics and should have been 4-0 down at halftime. Call me old fashioned but give me 4-4-2 all day long. We need a hold-up striker to play alongside Alfie. Leaburn's injury record is not great.
We were playing a back 4 when Newport scored 3 past us. The formation isn’t the problem. 4-4-2 would mean we can only pick 2 central midfielders which would be shooting ourselves in the foot when it’s the position we have the most good players in
Have a bad feeling about this one. No incomings and it is looking more like last season? Really hope our defence can remain tight, not sure it will. 2-0 to Peterborough.
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Someone also needs to explain to me why, when there is such an obvious lack of strike force, our most potent threat is playing in defence.
2-0 easy ride for the Posh.
Another new era melting before our eyes.
And of course our ability to change things if the game doesn't go our way initially is another issue. From experience, when we go into a game like this with issues like we have, it rarely ends well for us. We may need to get the first two goals to win it IMO so I am expecting a defeat.
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It's an omen...that 5-1 was the last time I went to Peterborough...but I'm going tomorrow! Lump on for an away win everyone 😀
Guaranteed shared points and neither side comes out any wiser.
With Fraser’s injury maybe 3-4-3 is a good option? Payne and CBT either side of May, Dobson and Camara as a 2 behind them, Edun LWB and then the usual rest of defence
This is the closest to official confirmation... people have said they've heard the Fraser injury is more serious than the club is saying publicly...
The Addicks picked up three fresh injuries to further dampen boss Dean Holden’s mood – with three additional names revealed as absent for the trip to South Wales due to fitness reasons. Tyreece Campbell was seen leaving Rodney Parade in a protective boot, with Manny Egbo and Richard Chin also suffering knocks.
Scott Fraser took a heavy knock during the 1-0 win over Leyton Orient on Saturday – with Lloyd Jones and Nathan Asiimwe also missing and requiring assessment.
Holden explained: “[Fraser] wasn’t available for us tonight. Nathan Asiimwe the same, he picked something up. Lloyd Jones. We’ll take stock and see where we’re at.
“We lost [Richard] Chin early through injury, we lost Manny [Egbo] in the warm up. Tyreece [Campbell] suffered a kick to his ankle and rolled his ankle. We’ll have to see how that is over the next couple of days. We’ve gone from having just Miles [Leaburn] injured to picking up a few now.”
0-0 vs Bolton. Needless to say he’s a Man U fan now