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So who are our new owners then?
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We can only hope.AFKABartram said:Arthur_Trudgill said:
Interesting they use 'futbol', the Spanish spelling, .TelMc32 said:Companies House updates this morning confirming the removal of Charlie as a Director of SE7 Partners Limited.However, two new “directors” have been added in the names of:
Futbol UK LLC
3FS Football LLC.
Both registered in Delaware US, the first one using US law firm Duane Morris as their registered office.Edit: 3FS registered address is likely to relate to Contemporary Services Corporation (CSC). Similar to using a law firm, they are likely an agent offering admin services and a registered Delaware address.Can’t see any additional info on either from a quick search, but Delaware is the US state to register in if you want to disclose as little info as possible.
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These are not new investors - club have advised CAST they are Friedman’s and Brener’s vehicles. We have suggested to the club that it would be helpful for them to clarify publicly.19
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OhWeegie Addick said:These are not new investors - club have advised CAST they are Friedman’s and Brener’s vehicles. We have suggested to the club that it would be helpful for them to clarify publicly.
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Oh no...Weegie Addick said:These are not new investors - club have advised CAST they are Friedman’s and Brener’s vehicles. We have suggested to the club that it would be helpful for them to clarify publicly.
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Would be a good idea, given what nosey and inquisitive gits we are! 🤷🏻♂️😉Weegie Addick said:These are not new investors - club have advised CAST they are Friedman’s and Brener’s vehicles. We have suggested to the club that it would be helpful for them to clarify publicly.6 -
Thankfully thats now as clear as mud to me 👍0
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It's not that hard, Methven sold his shares, so he's gone from the list on CH.ShootersHillGuru said:Thankfully thats now as clear as mud to me 👍
Friedman and Brener have both set up, for want of a better word, shell companies called Futbol UK LLC (Brener) and 3FS Football LLC (Friedman) to be able to route their investment money through into Charlton, without it affecting other businesses that they own. To reflect this, CH has been updated with both companies as "new" investors12 -
Not quite, CH registers them as directors, not investors. Given what @WeegieAddickhas said above, it’s likely that’s what they have been set up for, but it isn’t something that CH would confirm.sam3110 said:
It's not that hard, Methven sold his shares, so he's gone from the list on CH.ShootersHillGuru said:Thankfully thats now as clear as mud to me 👍
Friedman and Brener have both set up, for want of a better word, shell companies called Futbol UK LLC (Brener) and 3FS Football LLC (Friedman) to be able to route their investment money through into Charlton, without it affecting other businesses that they own. To reflect this, CH has been updated with both companies as "new" investors
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Further update just through on the Charlton Athletic Football Club Limited CH account, just confirming Gavin Carter as a Director (as from 14 May).10
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How long before salmon chinos takes credit for the promotion.1
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Sorry I actually thought someone called Salmon Chinos was involved with the club then.The Red Robin said:How long before salmon chinos takes credit for the promotion.
In my head it was pronouned Sala-man Chin-oss11 -
Good striker is Chinos but not sure we'd get a work permit.cafcnick1992 said:
Sorry I actually thought someone called Salmon Chinos was involved with the club thenThe Red Robin said:How long before salmon chinos takes credit for the promotion.2 -
Probably a bit too casual. Not sure he’d suit Jonesy’s high pressing game.Henry Irving said:
Good striker is Chinos but not sure we'd get a work permit.cafcnick1992 said:
Sorry I actually thought someone called Salmon Chinos was involved with the club thenThe Red Robin said:How long before salmon chinos takes credit for the promotion.2 -
Jones always gets his man. Can press all night and is great at away games.TelMc32 said:
Probably a bit too casual. Not sure he’d suit Jonesy’s high pressing game.Henry Irving said:
Good striker is Chinos but not sure we'd get a work permit.cafcnick1992 said:
Sorry I actually thought someone called Salmon Chinos was involved with the club thenThe Red Robin said:How long before salmon chinos takes credit for the promotion.
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Jones embrace with Brener really showed a direct correlation between the two to me.I think its highly likely that Jones bypassed the trio of bullsh*t from Methven,Scott and Rodwell and set his stall out with him from the get-go.24
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A lot of US companies are set up in Delaware. I assume there's some sort of privacy/tax implications. Like setting up in the Channel Islands/Isle of Man...sam3110 said:Delaware based and the Futbol spelling leads me to believe that particular vehicle of investment would be tied to Brener. 3FS, could it be "3 FriedmanS"? Though I seem to recall there were 5 of them in the initial "& Family"
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I touched on it in my post yesterday. Every US state has its own laws and reporting requirements. I spent a lot of my career looking after the big US law firms and a number were set up as Delaware LLPs because the rules there afforded them the most privacy in terms of disclosing financials, owners etc.SteveACS said:
A lot of US companies are set up in Delaware. I assume there's some sort of privacy/tax implications. Like setting up in the Channel Islands/Isle of Man...sam3110 said:Delaware based and the Futbol spelling leads me to believe that particular vehicle of investment would be tied to Brener. 3FS, could it be "3 FriedmanS"? Though I seem to recall there were 5 of them in the initial "& Family"Edit: I should add that this isn’t seen as an issue. When we developed relationships with these law firms, they were happy (😉) to disclose what we needed in terms of owners, financials. It’s just that they didn’t have to publicly declare them to all and sundry.6 -
Spot on. While a company or LLC exists there, there is no requirement to disclose beneficial ownership. As far as tax goes, here's a list of benefits:SteveACS said:
A lot of US companies are set up in Delaware. I assume there's some sort of privacy/tax implications. Like setting up in the Channel Islands/Isle of Man...sam3110 said:Delaware based and the Futbol spelling leads me to believe that particular vehicle of investment would be tied to Brener. 3FS, could it be "3 FriedmanS"? Though I seem to recall there were 5 of them in the initial "& Family"- For companies operating outside of Delaware, there isn't any state income tax. This can save a lot of money for companies that are incorporated in Delaware, but not conducting business within its borders.
- There isn't an inheritance tax on stock held by non-Delaware residents. This means that if the owner of a Delaware company passes away, inherited stock won't be taxed if the owner lives outside of the Delaware.
- Delaware does not have a state sales tax on intangible personal property (such as royalty payments); and shares of stock owned by non-resident aliens are not subject to Delaware taxes.
So, it is no surprise that a State with only one million residents has two million companies! Approx two thirds of Fortune 500 companies are incorporated in Delaware.6 -
I'm going to assume the latest changes on companies house mean we've gone from loaded to f*cking loaded!6
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LolBigRedEvil said:I'm going to assume the latest changes on companies house mean we've gone from loaded to f*cking loaded!
not sure about that mate but it is safe to assume that these are investment vehicles although no guarantee on values of such investments2 -
So in summary - nothing to see here (just how they like it in Delaware and the Caymans)….1
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I believe that is the official legal term, yes.BigRedEvil said:I'm going to assume the latest changes on companies house mean we've gone from loaded to f*cking loaded!1 -
Fans of Only Fools and Horses.allez les addicks said:So in summary - nothing to see here (just how they like it in Delaware and the Caymans)….0 -
Just watched back the full match and afterwards and both Brener and Friedman celebrating with the players during the trophy lift. I think Rosenfeld is there too but only glimpses.Icing on the cake would be that they get the valley and training ground off RD but how good is it to not have egotistical owners who leave others to run the club like Carter etc.14
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Also looks like Friedmans son in there tooI-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Just watched back the full match and afterwards and both Brener and Friedman celebrating with the players during the trophy lift. I think Rosenfeld is there too but only glimpses.Icing on the cake would be that they get the valley and training ground off RD but how good is it to not have egotistical owners who leave others to run the club like Carter etc.1 -
Friedman
Rosenfeld
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Couldn’t spot Munir Javeri or Marc Boyan. Also didn’t spot Hiro Ono of ACA, although not sure if he is still involved, he’s not listed on our website but probably just owns less than 5%3 -
He was in the stands for some reason, saw a twitter video of him celebrating (or someone from ACA) but he wasn't in the Royal box, so not sure if that was because there wasn't room for everyoneFoxycafc said:Friedman
Rosenfeld
Brener
Couldn’t spot Munir Javeri or Marc Boyan. Also didn’t spot Hiro Ono of ACA, although not sure if he is still involved, he’s not listed on our website but probably just owns less than 5%3 -
The top two photos aren’t Friedman and rosenfeld.13
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It’s become very common here in Texas to call it “futbol” not “soccer”.ElliotCAFC said:
A lot of North Americans also say “Futbol” to differentiate between Soccer and NFL/College FootballArthur_Trudgill said:
Interesting they use 'futbol', the Spanish spelling, even though it is a USA entity registering as a director of a UK company.TelMc32 said:Companies House updates this morning confirming the removal of Charlie as a Director of SE7 Partners Limited.However, two new “directors” have been added in the names of:
Futbol UK LLC
3FS Football LLC.
Both registered in Delaware US, the first one using US law firm Duane Morris as their registered office.Edit: 3FS registered address is likely to relate to Contemporary Services Corporation (CSC). Similar to using a law firm, they are likely an agent offering admin services and a registered Delaware address.Can’t see any additional info on either from a quick search, but Delaware is the US state to register in if you want to disclose as little info as possible.
There are a lot of Latin Americans in the USA and many are interested in football, but still.Probably the Hispanic influence to a degree but if I had to guess it’s also a way for the wider soccer community to stop using the word “soccer” and feel like they’re gaining a level of authenticity to their fandom.3
