I don't know if this point has been made already but if they're so interested in getting their message across how come they didn't stage a protest at Glastonbury? Diesel generators, tens of thousands of plastic bottles discarded, tents (mostly made from Nylon) left abandoned by the 100's, 'stars' flying in to make brief appearances and a global TV audience laid on...... seems like the perfect event to protest at, yet nothing heard from JSO. I wonder why? Hypocrites.
It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
So obvious, right?
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
So obvious, right?
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
I don't know if this point has been made already but if they're so interested in getting their message across how come they didn't stage a protest at Glastonbury? Diesel generators, tens of thousands of plastic bottles discarded, tents (mostly made from Nylon) left abandoned by the 100's, 'stars' flying in to make brief appearances and a global TV audience laid on...... seems like the perfect event to protest at, yet nothing heard from JSO. I wonder why? Hypocrites.
It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
So obvious, right?
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
Yep. With you 100% I wasn't being sarcastic.
Sorry. Having read your other contributions, I should have realised it wasn't meant sarcastically 🙄
In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
Again, seeing you didn't answer my earlier question
how would you feel if that happened to you on your wedding day? Would you shrug your shoulders and say oh well, it was for a good cause? Or would you be mortified?
@LargeAddick hit the mail firmly on the head. Maybe if we want to be needlessly picky, we can ask him to edit his post, take out oil and add confetti instead? The point remains, whatever the cause, attacking someone's wedding crosses the line and is not justified.
Rachel Reeves (Shadow Chancellor) on Sophy Ridge this morning just said she has no time for JSO.
So to be back on track you can appreciate the message / need without the style of protests.
She didn't hold back did she. This contradicts a previous poster who claims its the Right wing that opposes JSO. I believe pretty much everyone apart from a few nutters appreciates the dangers of Global warming Not supporting the behaviour of the JSO protesters does not mean we don't support their aims.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.
In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.
If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.
Why has this got a lol?
Hither Green, falcon wood, blue bell hill. What have these all got in common? They have cemeteries or crematoriums. Is it okay for protestors to rock up and throw orange dirt on a coffin?
I am actually interested in what they have to say and how I can be educated. But as long as they are making the average Joe miss work, or a medical appointment, they can go fuck themselves
if they want publicity, hire tv or radio advertising space, door knock and canvas. Educate, not disrupt. Get the public inside and have safety in numbers
He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.
3.88 million UKIP votes in 2015, 1 seat (having got zero with nearly a million votes in 2010), got a referendum largely because of that pressure, got their issue won through public support through the ballot box.
Imagine how well something as righteous as literally saving the world could do through the ballot box!
He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.
Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?
In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.
He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.
Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?
He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.
Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?
He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.
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I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information/green-glastonbury/our-green-policies/energy-policy/
So to be back on track you can appreciate the message / need without the style of protests.
how would you feel if that happened to you on your wedding day? Would you shrug your shoulders and say oh well, it was for a good cause? Or would you be mortified?
@LargeAddick hit the mail firmly on the head. Maybe if we want to be needlessly picky, we can ask him to edit his post, take out oil and add confetti instead? The point remains, whatever the cause, attacking someone's wedding crosses the line and is not justified.
This contradicts a previous poster who claims its the Right wing that opposes JSO.
I believe pretty much everyone apart from a few nutters appreciates the dangers of Global warming
Not supporting the behaviour of the JSO protesters does not mean we don't support their aims.
https://www.clientearth.org/latest/press-office/press/historic-high-court-ruling-finds-uk-government-s-climate-strategy-unlawful/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/04/revealed-cabinet-ministers-warned-of-legal-action-over-uks-failure-to-tackle-climate-crisis
Get shot? There protests up there all the time
I am actually interested in what they have to say and how I can be educated. But as long as they are making the average Joe miss work, or a medical appointment, they can go fuck themselves
if they want publicity, hire tv or radio advertising space, door knock and canvas. Educate, not disrupt. Get the public inside and have safety in numbers
The system almost encourages direct action when the indirect action is stymied by forces that prioritise stuff that is marginal to the climate crisis.
I have quoted Samuel Beckett a couple of times in the past when he commented about protests ‘never has such rightness joined to such foolishness’.
However the great Irishman also said ‘Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.’
Imagine how well something as righteous as literally saving the world could do through the ballot box!