Harry Isted Signs on a 2yr deal

Leuth

bolloxbolder said:

Two incompetent keepers. 

AMB isn't playing like a sieve, at least

Chunes

There's zero explanation for that because he's just made no effort to save it. 

MrOneLung

WTAF was that ? 

ForeverAddickted

Thats the sort of save you see down at Goals, from the bloke who has been told he's going in goal, and is pissed off over it.

cafctom

Not been convinced by him any time I’ve seen him. How we decided to make him our number 1 after that performance at Newport is beyond me.

NabySarr

Swisdom said:

So I have had a chance to look at some footage of Istead - here's what I think.

He has great reactions, possibly not the most dominant of keepers as you might expect at only 6'1" but his shotstopping looks very decent.  His kicking is a bit one-dimensional ie long but I did see a few throws to the full backs.  Looks relatively assured with the ball at his feet but i'd need to see him in action to get the full picture.

I've also pulled a little comparison out of Wyscout.  As you can see there is not a huge amount between all three - and I'm yet to get to the bottom of the "Prevented Goals" stats so disregard them.

Going back to this, prevented goals is basically their xG faced and how many they’ve actually conceded. So AMB conceded 3.24 less goals than the xG on target he faced. 

Here is this season so far. AMB is still in the positive, he’s conceded 6 goals but the value of the shots he’s faced would suggest he’s done better than expected.

Unsurprisingly Isted has fared far worse than the average GK, where you would expect to concede on average 1.6 goals from what he’s faced and he’s conceded 3.

This obviously only measures shot-stopping ability but it definitively shows AMB is miles clear of Isted in that regard. 

Isted does seem better at coming off his line and punching crosses away, and is probably the better of the two with his feet, but his shot-stopping is so much worse than AMB’s that I think we have to make the change 

ShootersHillGuru

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

cafcforever

ShootersHillGuru said:

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

Did AMB loose us points against Bristol Rovers and Port Vale when he could only parry shots back into play rather than holding on to them or turning them around the post?

Rothko

Reid hit it hard and into about the only spot he could score, I’m not in for this constant pile on at the moment 

Nicholas

He is like the Kevin Lisbie of goalkeepers. Once he makes one save he will go on to save loads. 

bolloxbolder

cafcforever said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

Did AMB loose us points against Bristol Rovers and Port Vale when he could only parry shots back into play rather than holding on to them or turning them around the post?

Yes 100%.

blackpool72

Nicholas said:

He is like the Kevin Lisbie of goalkeepers. Once he makes one save he will go on to save loads. 

That's what people used to say.
19 goals in about 10 years I think it was.

mendonca

Has he made a save yet?

blackpool72

Both our keeper's are not good enough for promotion imo 
But as we ain't going up this season replacing at least one of them will have to wait until the season is over. 

Scoham

blackpool72 said:

Nicholas said:

He is like the Kevin Lisbie of goalkeepers. Once he makes one save he will go on to save loads. 

That's what people used to say.
19 goals in about 10 years I think it was.

Just wait until we play Liverpool in the FA Cup

Fortune 82nd Minute

cafcforever said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

Did AMB loose us points against Bristol Rovers and Port Vale when he could only parry shots back into play rather than holding on to them or turning them around the post?

No 100%.

Bexleyheath_Addick

mendonca said:

Has he made a save yet?

Is anyone seriously able to answer this? I genuinely don't I've seen him make a save

Callumcafc

Bexleyheath_Addick said:

mendonca said:

Has he made a save yet?

Is anyone seriously able to answer this? I genuinely don't I've seen him make a save

Simple enough to find out isn’t it? Stevenage had three on shots on target and scored one so he must’ve made two saves.

Same against Fleetwood. 3 SoT, 1 goal.

Against Oxford: 5 SoT and 2 goals so three saves.

Callumcafc

Rothko said:

Reid hit it hard and into about the only spot he could score, I’m not in for this constant pile on at the moment 

With you a bit on this one - it doesn’t look good and the jury is out but chopping and changing won’t do anyone much good.

Don’t believe Appleton will have got a proper look at AMB just yet given that Ash was away on internationals. And it’s likely he looked at Isted being part of a winning side at Fleetwood and stuck with it.

Whoever Appleton chooses going forward, he has to give them a run with the gloves up until at least Xmas.

BigRedEvil

AMB should be number 1, I don't think he's done too much wrong when I've seen him play. 

Talal

Callumcafc said:

Bexleyheath_Addick said:

mendonca said:

Has he made a save yet?

Is anyone seriously able to answer this? I genuinely don't I've seen him make a save

Simple enough to find out isn’t it? Stevenage had three on shots on target and scored one so he must’ve made two saves.

Same against Fleetwood. 3 SoT, 1 goal.

Against Oxford: 5 SoT and 2 goals so three saves.

Depends what you determine as a save. I can only remember him "saving" anything that was straight at him and routine as yet. 

Blucher

The sooner AMB is back in goal, the better. He's a good young goalie who will only get better with more experience. I suspect that Holden's decision to drop up him was borne out of desperation and the need to be seen to be 'doing something' to remedy our dismal defensive record. 

AMB should perhaps have got a stronger hand to Bristol Rovers' late winner at The Valley, although, in mitigation, their player was able to execute a volley  whilst totally unmarked only 8 yards out.

Looking at AMB's level of performance since he came into the side, he usually makes at least one excellent save per game. The same can most certainly not be said for Isted. Effectively getting out of the way of Reid's shot yesterday was inexplicable and, quite frankly, abysmal. 

Bexleyheath_Addick

Talal said:

Callumcafc said:

Bexleyheath_Addick said:

mendonca said:

Has he made a save yet?

Is anyone seriously able to answer this? I genuinely don't I've seen him make a save

Simple enough to find out isn’t it? Stevenage had three on shots on target and scored one so he must’ve made two saves.

Same against Fleetwood. 3 SoT, 1 goal.

Against Oxford: 5 SoT and 2 goals so three saves.

Depends what you determine as a save. I can only remember him "saving" anything that was straight at him and routine as yet. 

Exactly this, just watched the extended highlights back and did not see anything you would call a save. 

Richard J

Just seen the other angle for the goal. That is disappointing. 

I guess AMB didn't have much time to stake a claim following the international break. I think maybe he should start against Wycombe now.

I am beginning to think we might need a new keeper in January.

ValleyBen

ShootersHillGuru said:

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

This for me, not currently convinced either are promotion quality keepers, neither was Wollacott.

LargeAddick

And to think that Conor Ripley amongst others was available on a free too.

ForeverAddickted

LargeAddick said:

And to think that Conor Ripley amongst others was available on a free too.

The Goalkeeper who plays for Port Vale, who have conceded the same amount of goals as us? - Isted should have done a lot better for that Stevenage goal, and rate Maynard-Brewer higher.

But the issue of conceding doesnt rest solely with the Goalkeeper - Its the whole Defence... One individual isn't going to change that fact on their own.

LargeAddick

ForeverAddickted said:

LargeAddick said:

And to think that Conor Ripley amongst others was available on a free too.

The Goalkeeper who plays for Port Vale, who have conceded the same amount of goals as us?

Skewed by the 7 they conceded in the first game of the season at Barnsley. 

ForeverAddickted

LargeAddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

LargeAddick said:

And to think that Conor Ripley amongst others was available on a free too.

The Goalkeeper who plays for Port Vale, who have conceded the same amount of goals as us?

Skewed by the 7 they conceded in the first game of the season at Barnsley. 

I'll be steering very well clear of CharltonLife when a Goalkeeper for us concedes seven goals in a single game.

wmcf123

ValleyBen said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Don’t think either are good enough.both will cost us points this season. 

This for me, not currently convinced either are promotion quality keepers, neither was Wollacott.

We were blessed with good goalkeepers for a long time but we’ve struggled since Amos left