I get why people are negative about cosgrove as a player like that on loan is still exactly the same type/level of player we would of gone for under TS and Gallen etc
I think people me included were hoping under this new lot for finally abit of money being spent and proven quality being brought in to show some ambition 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Don’t think so .. we would never been able to afford him
If Cosgrove replicates his scoring last season with us, and plays the remaining 42 games, he'll get 10 goals.
If he's signed to be alongside May, who has scored 20 goals and 23 goals in the last 2 seasons, and he replicates that too, that's the 30-35 goals between them!
So you want them to do exactly what they did separately last season, together, but apparently that's not good enough?!
Some right bollocks spouted on here recently, mostly by people who don't actually bother looking how players have done and just jumping on the "he's shite" bandwagon
Another maybe 10 goals from Leaburn, if CBT can match last season that's another 8-10. Campbell II can hopefully add anywhere between 5-10 more. There's definitely enough goals in there IF we can stop dropping daft errors and giving away cheap goals.
If we end up needing 2-3 goals a game then yes we're in trouble. But tighten things up defensively and start actually holding leads and we should see a difference without needing multiple 20+ goal scorers.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
If Cosgrove replicates his scoring last season with us, and plays the remaining 42 games, he'll get 10 goals.
If he's signed to be alongside May, who has scored 20 goals and 23 goals in the last 2 seasons, and he replicates that too, that's the 30-35 goals between them!
So you want them to do exactly what they did separately last season, together, but apparently that's not good enough?!
Some right bollocks spouted on here recently, mostly by people who don't actually bother looking how players have done and just jumping on the "he's shite" bandwagon
Fair point, and I hope if he signs that you're right (or he scores more than 10!).
But to be worried about the fact that few of the fans of his previous clubs rate him at all isn't unreasonable.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Spotted shirty5. How the fuck will we get rid of that dog dirt?
The same as January when we loaned the pair of them out along with Lavelle and McGrandles.
Bar Lavelle who’s left, would not be surprised to see the 3 of them loaned out once again.
No one with any sense is going to want any of them on a permanent deal with the wages they are on.
Both had poor loans though, so that’s why there is little interest. I suspect both will go at the end of the window as our demands on the loan club paying wages drop further.
We will end up paying them quite a bit to play for someone else so we might even just decide to keep them in case of an injury crisis
If Cosgrove replicates his scoring last season with us, and plays the remaining 42 games, he'll get 10 goals.
If he's signed to be alongside May, who has scored 20 goals and 23 goals in the last 2 seasons, and he replicates that too, that's the 30-35 goals between them!
So you want them to do exactly what they did separately last season, together, but apparently that's not good enough?!
Some right bollocks spouted on here recently, mostly by people who don't actually bother looking how players have done and just jumping on the "he's shite" bandwagon
Depends on his role in the squad but it would be more than that based on minutes played. He obviously is good at making an impact off the bench but there's 3,780 minutes left to be played this season and he got 8 goals in 1,307 minutes, which isn't far off a third of the available minutes remaining. He's not going to get 22+ goals but he's shown an ability to score a surprising amount in limited minutes so if he gets a run in the team replicating last season's form he'd be looking at a fair bit more than 10.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
If Cosgrove replicates his scoring last season with us, and plays the remaining 42 games, he'll get 10 goals.
If he's signed to be alongside May, who has scored 20 goals and 23 goals in the last 2 seasons, and he replicates that too, that's the 30-35 goals between them!
So you want them to do exactly what they did separately last season, together, but apparently that's not good enough?!
Some right bollocks spouted on here recently, mostly by people who don't actually bother looking how players have done and just jumping on the "he's shite" bandwagon
Another maybe 10 goals from Leaburn, if CBT can match last season that's another 8-10. Campbell II can hopefully add anywhere between 5-10 more. There's definitely enough goals in there IF we can stop dropping daft errors and giving away cheap goals.
If we end up needing 2-3 goals a game then yes we're in trouble. But tighten things up defensively and start actually holding leads and we should see a difference without needing multiple 20+ goal scorers.
How you going to get them all in the same team? I don't disagree that Campbell could get 10 goals in a season, if he played most of the games.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
We have to consider if them having some pace is what helped get the best out of May. He might not be as effective alongside a slower striker who can’t press alongside him, take over from running the channels or in behind when he drops deep etc.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
Nlundulu had a bit of nastiness about his game aswell. Watched him at the away game against Lincoln and I felt bullied Innis which isnt easy to do in fairness.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
We have to consider if them having some pace is what helped get the best out of May. He might not be as effective alongside a slower striker who can’t press alongside him, take over from running the channels or in behind when he drops deep etc.
He doesn't look like too much of a slouch here. He doesn't look like he's particularly slow and he's in front of the play to provide an option unlike Stockley who tended to be trying to catch up to it. He's alongside his strike partner to receive an assist, sets up one when his partner runs off him and he looks like he's quite good at gobbling up rebounds which a slower striker who can't keep up with the play wouldn't be able to do. I haven't seen enough of him to say but other than the close range header you wouldn't see Stockley scoring any of those goals these days
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
We have to consider if them having some pace is what helped get the best out of May. He might not be as effective alongside a slower striker who can’t press alongside him, take over from running the channels or in behind when he drops deep etc.
He doesn't look like too much of a slouch here. He doesn't look like he's particularly slow and he's in front of the play to provide an option unlike Stockley who tended to be trying to catch up to it. He's alongside his strike partner to receive an assist, sets up one when his partner runs off him and he looks like he's quite good at gobbling up rebounds which a slower striker who can't keep up with the play wouldn't be able to do. I haven't seen enough of him to say but other than the close range header you wouldn't see Stockley scoring any of those goals these days
Don't see why people are complaining, he looks really good.
If Cosgrove replicates his scoring last season with us, and plays the remaining 42 games, he'll get 10 goals.
If he's signed to be alongside May, who has scored 20 goals and 23 goals in the last 2 seasons, and he replicates that too, that's the 30-35 goals between them!
So you want them to do exactly what they did separately last season, together, but apparently that's not good enough?!
Some right bollocks spouted on here recently, mostly by people who don't actually bother looking how players have done and just jumping on the "he's shite" bandwagon
Another maybe 10 goals from Leaburn, if CBT can match last season that's another 8-10. Campbell II can hopefully add anywhere between 5-10 more. There's definitely enough goals in there IF we can stop dropping daft errors and giving away cheap goals.
If we end up needing 2-3 goals a game then yes we're in trouble. But tighten things up defensively and start actually holding leads and we should see a difference without needing multiple 20+ goal scorers.
How you going to get them all in the same team? I don't disagree that Campbell could get 10 goals in a season, if he played most of the games.
That's why I was more vague with the goals for him. If he's an impact sub type then probably he's going to be on the lower end, nearer to 5 than 10. But theoretically at least if he's being kept on the bench that's because those ahead of him are performing well so we should be okay anyway.... of course all hypothetical.
FWIW last season May played up front with Nlundulu first half of the season, and Keena second half. They scored 10 goals between them. He got 20. They were both physically stronger players with a bit of height.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Height and strength is something we need in a striker, but also more mobility than a traditional target man like Stockley. How do those two compare when it comes to pace?
Nlundulu I'd say was a bit pacier from the limited highlights I've seen of him. Keena was more plodding, and at 6 foot whilst bigger than May wasn't a full blown target man, more like a Josh Davison type I reckon
We have to consider if them having some pace is what helped get the best out of May. He might not be as effective alongside a slower striker who can’t press alongside him, take over from running the channels or in behind when he drops deep etc.
He doesn't look like too much of a slouch here. He doesn't look like he's particularly slow and he's in front of the play to provide an option unlike Stockley who tended to be trying to catch up to it. He's alongside his strike partner to receive an assist, sets up one when his partner runs off him and he looks like he's quite good at gobbling up rebounds which a slower striker who can't keep up with the play wouldn't be able to do. I haven't seen enough of him to say but other than the close range header you wouldn't see Stockley scoring any of those goals these days
Don't see why people are complaining, he looks really good.
Because they believe he's 4th or 5th choice for us so must be shit
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If we end up needing 2-3 goals a game then yes we're in trouble. But tighten things up defensively and start actually holding leads and we should see a difference without needing multiple 20+ goal scorers.
I have no idea how well Cosgrove will do if he comes here, but I'm not so dismissive of him as some seem to be
Fair point, and I hope if he signs that you're right (or he scores more than 10!).
But to be worried about the fact that few of the fans of his previous clubs rate him at all isn't unreasonable.
We are the only quoted team for Cosgrove now
Martyn Waghorn, who's also 33 and now at Derby, joined us on loan back in 2008!