You learn in meaningless games who the players are that will give you a 7 or 8 out of 10 performance week in, week out. Sadly, I don’t think we have any of them.
I feel like if it was another team you might say that it's the typical case of a team with nothing to play for going against one fighting for their lives, but this is the kind of performance Charlton have been throwing up all season. It's all a bit worrying because you wonder where change is coming from. Holden can't fix the team, Hector can't fix the defence, feels like we could sign a new player in every position next season and we'd end up with the same results. We really do need a full change, remove absolutely everyone behind the scenes and start over or it feels like this will just continue forever. I think it does answer the 'why are we playing Bonne instead of giving Kanu a run out' question though, because we gave Henry a run out to see what he was like and it feels like most people on here don't want to see him make it through the night let alone get a new contract. Good on Holden for protecting him from that, Bonne can eat the anger.
n the first half the team unbalanced, because on the left we had sessegnon, Henry and Payne. So nearly every thing went to our right and Morecambe new it and cancelled out Raki for most of the Half. added to this was te appalling passing the two most culpable were Dobson and Thomas, nut nearly every one else put in a few bad passes. Also we got out muscled. The subs made a big difference to our ability to attack as we had a threat down both wings, the subs did not improve the defending. Of todays team I will not be sorry to see Payne, and Thomas go, Henry is not ready for the first team even Clare is on the not concerned if he stays or goes as long as the replacement is a bit better.
That was another dog shit performance. I wasn’t there and didn’t watch it on a stream. But I have seen us recently and it can’t really be anything else.
I bet there will still be a few people advocating for Inniss, Morgan, Thomas etc for their contracts to be renewed as squad players. It’s what we do
Morgan was one of our best players today, Thomas was better than Hector today.
That’s not a valid argument to warrant keeping either
But it is a reason to defend players who weren't the reason why we lost today
Yup, but my original post was making the point that we’ve had too many (imo) advocating for keeping them on as squad players. Morgan may have been one of our best players today and Thomas better than Hector today but in the grand scheme of things, so what. I’ve read we’re a top 8 team in recent weeks, there’s no need to rip it up and start again, X will be okay as back up. How many times do people that prescribe to that way of thinking need to be let down by this gutless bunch until they realise we’re a ramshackle outfit save for at best, 1,2 maybe 3 players.
I can already see the excuses panning out for the likes of Payne, we just haven’t seen the best of him, he’s not had the easiest of seasons, Holden hasn’t given him a run etc. it’s all a big load of bull turd.
To entertain giving any of this mob a chance next season is ridiculous.
The ref was shocking the only thing he did not do was celebrate with the Morecombe players when they scored .. sum up the game … team selection poor , Henry and Dobson play the same style you can’t play them both in a 3 .. and leave Fraser out . Seen a lot of crap spoke about Fraser on social media well that first half is what happens without him .. 0-1 Henry mistake but what a shot 1-1 Payne disallowed by the ref and gave us a free kick horrendous call from the official 1-1 Raki 1-2 clear foul on Morgan leading up to the goal but a poor poor mistake by AMB time for Woolacot I think 1-3 again clear hand ball as the bloke controls it with his arm before the goal Campbell brought down in the area nothing given Kanu has header of the line
Dobson and Leaburn very poor today , felt sorry for Henry just did not know his role ..
19 times we have conceded the opening goal this season and we are yet to turn any of them into wins. We are get ourselves back into the game and just then allow the opposition to comfortably take the initiative afterwards.
That's not news to some of us. Been happening for a good few seasons now.
Our season has been over for a while now. Todays performance was typical end of season dead rubber played by players, the majority of them know they have no future at Charlton. A truly awful season,I’m glad to the back of but I can’t see next season being any better.
Wasn't there & although a ST holder haven't been for the last 3 home games. Will go next week just to show my appeciation to JRS as he definitely wont be here next season.
As I said on the match thread when I saw the team news, too many Academy / youngsters who are simply not good enough. Like in previous seasons a summer rebuild is needed but like summers past I'm not expecting it to happen. More average players will be signed & more Academy players will be used. Decent strikers will be signed by our rivals & people on here will scoff at players like Alfie May or Cole Stockton being mentioned.
I wont be buying a ST for next season & will only go to the odd game or 2......unless & until the club decide we dont actually want to be in this division anymore.
19 times we have conceded the opening goal this season and we are yet to turn any of them into wins. We are get ourselves back into the game and just then allow the opposition to comfortably take the initiative afterwards.
That's not news to some of us. Been happening for a good few seasons now.
19 times we have conceded the opening goal this season and we are yet to turn any of them into wins. We are get ourselves back into the game and just then allow the opposition to comfortably take the initiative afterwards.
That's not news to some of us. Been happening for a good few seasons now.
Reality is that if the takeover doesn't happen, our budget may be less or similar to this season, hence our squad could very well be poorer, not better, when next season begins. Losing Rak Saki will be the biggest loss. Also losing Hector (he won't sign) will be tough on the back line.
The midfield with Morgan is bereft of talent.
As Curbs said post match, Chuks and CBT are big losses and if unsure on their fitness, new faces are needed. Sadly he also said about the loaned out players coming back in the summer for Holden to look at. The fact that they couldn't get into this very poor team says it all already.
Takeover or worse to come is the reality.
I agree, we have to be realistic. Chances are the budget will be similar or less whoever is in charge. Is that a problem? It needn't be. Look at Lincoln just above us in the table.They have conceded 19 less goals this season. And their budget? Pretty sure it's £3-4 million for wages, where ours is £6+million. It's down to 1) recruitment 2) coaching. We need to up our game in these areas and we could still save money overall. I'd love a billionaire to take us over but just think its unlikely.We can do better with resources (money) we have.
Reality is that if the takeover doesn't happen, our budget may be less or similar to this season, hence our squad could very well be poorer, not better, when next season begins. Losing Rak Saki will be the biggest loss. Also losing Hector (he won't sign) will be tough on the back line.
The midfield with Morgan is bereft of talent.
As Curbs said post match, Chuks and CBT are big losses and if unsure on their fitness, new faces are needed. Sadly he also said about the loaned out players coming back in the summer for Holden to look at. The fact that they couldn't get into this very poor team says it all already.
Takeover or worse to come is the reality.
I agree, we have to be realistic. Chances are the budget will be similar or less whoever is in charge. Is that a problem? It needn't be. Look at Lincoln just above us in the table.They have conceded 19 less goals this season. And their budget? Pretty sure it's £3-4 million for wages, where ours is £6+million. It's down to 1) recruitment 2) coaching. We need to up our game in these areas and we could still save money overall. I'd love a billionaire to take us over but just think its unlikely.We can do better with resources (money) we have.
Plymouth are 34 points ahead of us, which is a massive indictment of our mismanagement
Truly awful. Some of the wayward passing made that first half feel like one of the worst Charlton home performances in years.
The day wasn’t helped with the East Stand overrun with annoying kids and football for a freebie types who it felt like were taking in their very first game and willing to try and disrupt the “enjoyment” for anyone around them.
Reality is that if the takeover doesn't happen, our budget may be less or similar to this season, hence our squad could very well be poorer, not better, when next season begins. Losing Rak Saki will be the biggest loss. Also losing Hector (he won't sign) will be tough on the back line.
The midfield with Morgan is bereft of talent.
As Curbs said post match, Chuks and CBT are big losses and if unsure on their fitness, new faces are needed. Sadly he also said about the loaned out players coming back in the summer for Holden to look at. The fact that they couldn't get into this very poor team says it all already.
Takeover or worse to come is the reality.
I agree, we have to be realistic. Chances are the budget will be similar or less whoever is in charge. Is that a problem? It needn't be. Look at Lincoln just above us in the table.They have conceded 19 less goals this season. And their budget? Pretty sure it's £3-4 million for wages, where ours is £6+million. It's down to 1) recruitment 2) coaching. We need to up our game in these areas and we could still save money overall. I'd love a billionaire to take us over but just think its unlikely.We can do better with resources (money) we have.
I can understand why the club do it and I am generally in favour of boosting the crowd but does anyone actually pay to get in anymore or is it just us season ticket holders. There were so many people today who had no idea where they were sitting or going. They also turn up late and then wander around looking for their seats. We had a bloke behind us earlier in the season who had actually arrived in the wrong stand !
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added to this was te appalling passing the two most culpable were Dobson and Thomas, nut nearly every one else put in a few bad passes.
Also we got out muscled.
The subs made a big difference to our ability to attack as we had a threat down both wings, the subs did not improve the defending.
Of todays team I will not be sorry to see Payne, and Thomas go, Henry is not ready for the first team even Clare is on the not concerned if he stays or goes as long as the replacement is a bit better.
Embarrassing players is a bit of an understatement, unless we strengthen with at least 7 good players we will be lucky to survive next season.
Shambles, fuck off TS.
That was shite.
I can already see the excuses panning out for the likes of Payne, we just haven’t seen the best of him, he’s not had the easiest of seasons, Holden hasn’t given him a run etc. it’s all a big load of bull turd.
sum up the game … team selection poor , Henry and Dobson play the same style you can’t play them both in a 3 .. and leave Fraser out . Seen a lot of crap spoke about Fraser on social media well that first half is what happens without him ..
0-1 Henry mistake but what a shot
1-1 Payne disallowed by the ref and gave us a free kick horrendous call from the official
1-1 Raki
1-2 clear foul on Morgan leading up to the goal but a poor poor mistake by AMB time for Woolacot I think
1-3 again clear hand ball as the bloke controls it with his arm before the goal
Campbell brought down in the area nothing given
Kanu has header of the line
Dobson and Leaburn very poor today , felt sorry for Henry just did not know his role ..
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as I was miles away from The Valley
We took two of our grandsons to Diggerland and had a great time in the sunshine
A truly awful season,I’m glad to the back of but I can’t see next season being any better.
As I said on the match thread when I saw the team news, too many Academy / youngsters who are simply not good enough. Like in previous seasons a summer rebuild is needed but like summers past I'm not expecting it to happen. More average players will be signed & more Academy players will be used. Decent strikers will be signed by our rivals & people on here will scoff at players like Alfie May or Cole Stockton being mentioned.
I wont be buying a ST for next season & will only go to the odd game or 2......unless & until the club decide we dont actually want to be in this division anymore.
Is that a problem? It needn't be. Look at Lincoln just above us in the table.They have conceded 19 less goals this season. And their budget? Pretty sure it's £3-4 million for wages, where ours is £6+million.
It's down to 1) recruitment 2) coaching. We need to up our game in these areas and we could still save money overall.
I'd love a billionaire to take us over but just think its unlikely.We can do better with resources (money)
we have.