Tyreece Campbell - June 2025 - called up for Jamaica again (p34)

Fanny Fanackapan

Great stuff ! 

Onwards & upwards, Tyreece.

BigRedEvil

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

killerandflash

He got some horrible stick from our fans at away matches this season, but to me looked like a player who had completely lost his confidence, rather than someone who didn't care. Young players will have dips in form anyway. 

eastterrace6168

BigRedEvil said:

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

Slightly harsh to describe him as poor last season, he had up's and down's agreed, but showed some great aptitude and promise for the future, so sure Nathan has seen enough and TC got his due rewards with a 2 + 1 year contract...poor, not for me...

Valiantphil

eastterrace6168 said:

BigRedEvil said:

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

Slightly harsh to describe him as poor last season, he had up's and down's agreed, but showed some great aptitude and promise for the future, so sure Nathan has seen enough and TC got his due rewards with a 2 + 1 year contract...poor, not for me...

Tries to beat too many players and should look for the quick 1-2 pass instead. 

L1 “men” players are too much for him right now, so he should use his speed to better effect. 

Hopefully NJ can get this trained in to him. 

eastterrace6168

Valiantphil said:

eastterrace6168 said:

BigRedEvil said:

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

Slightly harsh to describe him as poor last season, he had up's and down's agreed, but showed some great aptitude and promise for the future, so sure Nathan has seen enough and TC got his due rewards with a 2 + 1 year contract...poor, not for me...

Tries to beat too many players and should look for the quick 1-2 pass instead. 

L1 “men” players are too much for him right now, so he should use his speed to better effect. 

Hopefully NJ can get this trained in to him. 

OK...but still feel "poor" is not apt, and maybe finding someone for a quick 1-2 pass as you said needs someone to make themselves available, anyway sure NJ has seen enough, and wouldn't have given the new contract without confidence that TC can deliver...

Pavoren007

A good rest and an injury free pre-season and I have every confidence TC will kick on and deliver some valuable goals and assists next season. Wingers blow hot and cold at the best of times, you are very blessed if you get a consistent one (Johnny Robinson was one of those for effort/impact), but when you consider the 3-4 positions he was asked to play in last season too, it could not have been at all easy for the young lad. 

Nathan knows how to get the best out of the younger players and am sure he will help TC not only enjoy his game time, but also drive up his in game contributions.

Good luck for next season, Tyreece, one of our own for many years to come!

Henry Irving

eastterrace6168 said:

BigRedEvil said:

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

Slightly harsh to describe him as poor last season, he had up's and down's agreed, but showed some great aptitude and promise for the future, so sure Nathan has seen enough and TC got his due rewards with a 2 + 1 year contract...poor, not for me...

Agree, had some good games under Holden, got some assists and scored a cracking goal v Reading.

Had some bad performances under Appleton but better under Jones.

I don't think that was coincidence.

mattwils

I feel quite ambivalent. I’d love to see him do well but just not sure….like a lot of young players he’s very inconsistent. On balance I’d have given him a year, but now he’s signed up he really needs to have a good season now for us or as a loan

ForeverAddickted

Stats only paint a small picture, but according to the BBC he got as many assists as CBT for us last season.

The potential is still very much there, just needs the right Manager to coax it out of him

Garrymanilow

Easy to forget he actually started very well under Appleton too. He was a bit of a main man at the start and looked like he'd benefit from Appleton apparently being good at developing young players. He played a bit on the right wing and a bit at 10 (despite left wing being his preferred position) but it wasn't that long after that he was just being played in central midfield. He'd come on for Scott Fraser in the middle and be asked to compete physically and scrap about. Then he was part of the formation change and played in Appleton's disastrous 3421 with twin 10s setup. It's no wonder he completely lost confidence when he was being asked to fight for dominance in the middle of the park despite weighing as much as a wet paper bag and having a game based on pace and guile. It's really unbelievable how shit Appleton was. Jones brought him on in advanced positions and told him to run people and he suddenly looked like himself again. I'm glad we've retained him and didn't lose him because of a terrible coach.

Weegie Addick

killerandflash said:

He got some horrible stick from our fans at away matches this season, but to me looked like a player who had completely lost his confidence,

And sadly from some eejits in the lower Covered End on occasion. If anyone remembers his interview from when he first broke into the first team squad, he is clearly a very shy and diffident lad who will respond much better to encouragement and praise. Hopefully he is now getting that from Jones & Co. 

killerandflash

TC's natural position is the same one that CBT favours, on the left of a front 3, cutting inside onto his right foot, as opposed to being on the right and being expected to provide a cross. The previous season, Rak-Sakyi did the same on the other side, playing on the right and often cutting in on his left.

Indeed I sometimes wonder if Alfie May was the case of the right player at the wrong time, in that we had a 433 setup, then brought in a player who didn't really suit it, and didn't replace Rak-Sakyi on the right either. 

Exiled_Addick

Henry Irving said:

eastterrace6168 said:

BigRedEvil said:

He was poor last season, hopefully Jones can get his form back

Slightly harsh to describe him as poor last season, he had up's and down's agreed, but showed some great aptitude and promise for the future, so sure Nathan has seen enough and TC got his due rewards with a 2 + 1 year contract...poor, not for me...

Agree, had some good games under Holden, got some assists and scored a cracking goal v Reading.

Had some bad performances under Appleton but better under Jones.

I don't think that was coincidence.

I thought he was on the verge of really establishing himself in the first part of the season. Lord knows what Appleton said to him, and maybe it is just coincidence, but he looked absolutely ruined while the Dementor was managing us.

Hopefully he can get a good pre-season under him and start to kick on again because there is definitely plenty in there to work with.

wmcf123

cafcfan1990 said:

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Callumcafc said:

Think NJ is growing to like him a lot. Get him a new contract please.

2 good cameos off the bench. Still think if I was him I wouldn’t be signing for us. He needs to find a team playing 4-3-3, shouldn’t just settle for appearances off the bench for us. Hope we can keep him but I think it would be a poor move from TC to stay if I’m being honest 

A side aiming for promotion needs better than Campbell on the bench imo. 

Have to see the bigger picture and there are 2 major positives to having Campbell around next year. 1 is that Jones clearly improves players and makes teams more than a sum of it's parts, Campbell has a high ceiling and if anyone can get him up there it's Jones. The 2nd is almost more important, it shows our young players that it's ok to have a bad run of form and we won't cut our losses straight away. The successes of players like Gomez are important but so are the trickier journeys.

The only thing that matters next season is promotion. If we sign Campbell again it should be a with a view to loan him out to prove himself regularly while we sign better to get us back to the championship. 

Agree that promotion is the only KPI next season.

The question is "Can TC help to achieve that aim?"

I think he can.  He has skill, pace and creates goals.

He's young and still learning but that also means that he doesn't count towards the 23? man squad limit so is a "bonus player".  I doubt the 8-8-8 squad idea is going to be the plan under Jones but if it is TC is clearly in the Academy 8.

Do we have better wingers at the moment?  No we don't.  In fact, all we have is a 33 year old loanee who's shown nothing so far in his two short appearances and even younger players like Rylah (another great prospect IMHO but not ready yet and currently injured). 

Should we buy/loan better wingers?  Yeah, of course, if we can find them but that is easier said than done.

Meanwhile we have a decent winger on our books we can develop.   Not sure a loan at a lower level develops him or helps us get promotion.

Sure his form took a big dip under Appleton but the whole club took a big dip under Appleton.  Let's see what he does under Jones.

Depends on the formation, wingers might not be important for us. If we're going 352, there's no real point in having any more than one winger plus a striker/attacking midfielder who can play down the wing. If we're switching formation, it will be an interesting summer of transfers but I'd be a bit concerned because there's a lot of players in our squad who wouldn't really fit in anymore. 

We played 352 because that’s what Appleton and Scott left us with .  I hope we can be more flexible next season.  We are a little hamstrung that May probably can’t play effectively in any other system 

AFKABartram

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

thenewbie

AFKABartram said:

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

Based purely on the stats last season, probably not honestly. But that doesn't account for the context (Appleton being the main point there.) A young attacking player with potential probably isn't what I'd put top of the shopping list but he does seem like a "Jones player" a la Ramsay or Small.

Dazzler21

Has potential to be good if he can become a little more stoic and resilient to bad performances. 

If he can do as the best players do and each game forget the errors he made, whilst also learning from them he will be a good L1/Championship winger. 

Henry Irving

AFKABartram said:

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

That's a false analogy.

He wasn't on our released list.

Oxford and Northampton had decent seasons.

But if a young player with 4 goals and 6 assists in a poor side became available for free then some would positive and some not, it was ever thus.

Dazzler21

Henry Irving said:

AFKABartram said:

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

That's a false analogy.

He wasn't on our released list.

Oxford and Northampton had decent seasons.

But if a young player with 4 goals and 6 assists in a poor side became available for free then some would positive and some not, it was ever thus.

 In answer to AFKA's question and taking into account your comment around his goals and assists - If I had never seen the player I would be excited.

However having seen him I am less excited by his contract extension, but still look forward to seeing how he can progress. We all can see he's technically good and fast. It's simply his ability to lose confidence that is a concern.

Garrymanilow

AFKABartram said:

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

I think there's a big difference between signing a player and developing and retaining one through your youth academy. I think it also just goes to show how important knowledge and context is; TC actually had a pretty good season by the numbers, though there are a lot on here who would say he didn't. He played 1,782 minutes and got 4 goals and 7 assists across that run, which is a goal involvement every 162 minutes, or 1.8 games. That's great. Granted some of those goal involvements were in dafty cups so if you make it just the league then he's got 7 goal involvements in 1,308 minutes, which is a goal every 187 minutes, or just over every 2 games.

Every single one of those goal involvements came under Appleton though, including across a period where people would have said he was absolutely rubbish. If we'd loaned out TC on January deadline day the prevailing opinion would have been that he had had a crap season and was rubbish, and a lot on here would have been happy to let him go (with his numbers being more like a goal involvement every 1.5 games), but after a few solid cameos under Jones where his major involvement was winning us a penalty his reputation has been reformed. It goes to show both that stats don't tell you everything but also that negativity sticks to players based on what's going on around them and lifts for the same reason.

If we signed TC and saw those stats I think we'd be pretty impressed that a 20 year old got those numbers while not being a key player. Would we also realise that he did that being played in 5 different positions (CF, CM, AM, RW, RWB) and almost never in his preferred position of LW (I think he came on for CBT against Cray Valley and scored)? Would we understand the context of just how horrible things were under Appleton and how toxic things had become? Would we recognise that he's a pretty shy and quiet character and that the level of abuse he gets from our fans is fairly disproportionate at times because of his style (the Port Vale match thread comes to mind, he made a mistake and got plenty of abuse and then immediately scored, to the point that the abuse was mixed in with the celebrating)? And would his improvement and return to form translate at all across the stats under Jones or would it look like a proper manager came in and dropped him and that maybe we've picked up a cast-off? On paper it looks like he was good under Appleton and unwanted under Jones but most would say the reverse. Essentially what I'm saying is there's not really a lot of point getting pleased or upset about signings unless you know the player very well, and even then anything can happen. Stats can be a lie both ways and you shouldn't trust fan opinion on anything.

Callumcafc

There was a lot of excitement about signing Scott Fraser. There was hardly any excitement about signing Corey Blackett-Taylor. Fans get it wrong all the time when it comes to new signings.

fenlandaddick

Mark me down as excited. I was hoping he would sign again with us, I remember he had a good partnership developing on the pitch with Leaburn. I hope Nathan and his team can work with Tyreece, I'm sure with the right management there is alot more to come from him.

Orpingtony

Callumcafc said:

There was a lot of excitement about signing Scott Fraser. There was hardly any excitement about signing Corey Blackett-Taylor. Fans get it wrong all the time when it comes to new signings.

There was a lot of celebrating when we signed Charlie Kirk.

Dazzler21

There's fans getting it wrong and there's it simply not working out.

Radostanradical

Orpingtony said:

Callumcafc said:

There was a lot of excitement about signing Scott Fraser. There was hardly any excitement about signing Corey Blackett-Taylor. Fans get it wrong all the time when it comes to new signings.

There was a lot of celebrating when we signed Charlie Kirk.

Innis was going to be a cheat code at this level remember

Athletico Charlton

AFKABartram said:

Out of interest, but if TC was on the released list at say Oxford or Northampton and we announced him this summer on a 2-3 year deal, would you be pleased with that signing? 

Something tells me his YouTube clip would look amazing so that would be posted and people would be delighted.  It wouldn't have featured any of the time Apples was with us.

Croydon

I hope to be proved wrong but I really don't rate him.

eastterrace6168

Can't see him being offered a 2+1 contract to just loan him out...

SantaClaus

It’s good to have young players in the squad who can have a positive impact off the bench but if TC is going to have a long term future he needs to improve on his consistency and start making more of an impression as a starter.