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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • shirty5 said:
    If Beale has a choice to be manager of Blackburn, QPR or Charlton, then why pick the League One club over the 2 in the Championship. 
    QPR don’t want Beale they want the Wycombe manager 
  • And Blackburn have ex Sheff Wed boss  Carvalhal as number one target , also Wycombe manager and Michael Carrick …. no mention of Beale at all 
  • shirty5 said:
    If Beale has a choice to be manager of Blackburn, QPR or Charlton, then why pick the League One club over the 2 in the Championship. 
    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/teams/queens-park-rangers

    https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/teams/blackburn-rovers

    Manning 6/4 favourite for QPR, Carvalhal 2/1 favourite for Blackburn.
  • Jac_52 said:
    I'd be very disappointed with Carrick. Hasn't shown anything to suggest he can be a good manager. I remember watching their 1-1 draw with Chelsea and I have never seen such a poor man utd performance, they were embarrassingly bad and he came out and said he was proud of the performance. No thanks
    His team played poor, but still got a 1-1 from Chelsea. 

    That’s  me sold. I want carrick as the new manager. 
  • Jac_52 said:
    I'd be very disappointed with Carrick. Hasn't shown anything to suggest he can be a good manager. I remember watching their 1-1 draw with Chelsea and I have never seen such a poor man utd performance, they were embarrassingly bad and he came out and said he was proud of the performance. No thanks
    But United are very bad with poor players compared to the likes of Chelsea. It was a good point regardless of the performance. 
  • If Beale is appointed I wonder who he’d like in his set-up….and will he be allowed to bring them?
  • Valley11 said:
    If Beale is appointed I wonder who he’d like in his set-up….and will he be allowed to bring them?
    Yes why not .. still think Euell will end up at Wimbeldon at some point 
  • edited May 2022
    Ben Garner actually ticks a lot of boxes.

    "he's a phenomenal person. He's a top, top coach, his attention to detail is unreal and he sees things that we don't see. He's a class act all around".

    Very much focused on developing young players.  Similar back ground to Beale in that he has a lot of coaching experience despite being quite young.

    Knows the area as well so would pass the sat nav test.
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  • Here's the news you wanted.

    Michael Beale is definitely a top button done up type of guy.

    Pic: Tom Morris/Charlton Athletic Museum 17/7/98




    That photo is curtains for this thread.
  • Celtic were arguably the most fantastic European trophy winners ever seeing as how all their team were more or less local to Parkhead.
  • From a hugely  informed source….

    ” it won’t be Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. We do not want to play long ball”
  • Swisdom said:
    From a hugely  informed source….

    ” it won’t be Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. We do not want to play long ball”
    that's good news.. any hints on who it might be? feels like its Taylor or beale, 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    From a hugely  informed source….

    ” it won’t be Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. We do not want to play long ball”
    Not that I want Jimmy Floyd but is that through him wanting to play long ball or wanting to win enough games to not get sacked?  I don't remember his original Burton team playing long ball.

    Big Sam didn't play long ball when he had Heiro, Campo, JJ, Djorkaeff etc etc.

    No one is going to get Purrington, Gilbey and Stockley et al playing like prime Barcelona are they?
    Burton are very direct and that’s not a direction we want to be going.

    I agree a number of our players need tweaking and some won’t fit a new style - but that’s what Ipswich did/are doing.  They are chnanging their whole ethos to suit their new managers requirements from top to bottom.  It could be very exciting

    or a car crash I suppose 😀
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  • I actually think Beale would be a mistake, its obviously very helpful to have a good coach but ultimately its about the quality you have on the pitch and I'd rather have Taylor ( or someone similar) who has detailed knowledge of the best League 1 and League 2 players which is where we will be fishing. 
    Paul Clement would be a good example of an outstanding coach who didn't really cut it as a manager. A similar mould to Beale 
  • I actually think Beale would be a mistake, its obviously very helpful to have a good coach but ultimately its about the quality you have on the pitch and I'd rather have Taylor ( or someone similar) who has detailed knowledge of the best League 1 and League 2 players which is where we will be fishing. 
    Paul Clement would be a good example of an outstanding coach who didn't really cut it as a manager. A similar mould to Beale 
    Some very valid comments, who do you think could do a good job as manager for us?
  • Swisdom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    From a hugely  informed source….

    ” it won’t be Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. We do not want to play long ball”
    Not that I want Jimmy Floyd but is that through him wanting to play long ball or wanting to win enough games to not get sacked?  I don't remember his original Burton team playing long ball.

    Big Sam didn't play long ball when he had Heiro, Campo, JJ, Djorkaeff etc etc.

    No one is going to get Purrington, Gilbey and Stockley et al playing like prime Barcelona are they?
    Burton are very direct and that’s not a direction we want to be going.

    I agree a number of our players need tweaking and some won’t fit a new style - but that’s what Ipswich did/are doing.  They are chnanging their whole ethos to suit their new managers requirements from top to bottom.  It could be very exciting

    or a car crash I suppose 😀
    That's a different point though.  Burton got a similar number of points to us, on a fraction of the wage bill.  Would JFH play like that if he had better players avaliable to him?

    Ipswich have chucked a lot of money at it, MK Dons have spent about 10 years, and a spell in the 4th tier, trying to do it but they can survive as a league 1 club.  I am not so sure we can.

    These things would be much easier to implement in the championship, for a club our size, than hemorrhaging cash in league 1.  I think everyone would agree that it's a good ambition and destination but I am not sure it's should be the immediate priority.

    Nothing to stop you working on that from u23s down now, to build for the future as well.
  • I actually think Beale would be a mistake, its obviously very helpful to have a good coach but ultimately its about the quality you have on the pitch and I'd rather have Taylor ( or someone similar) who has detailed knowledge of the best League 1 and League 2 players which is where we will be fishing. 
    Paul Clement would be a good example of an outstanding coach who didn't really cut it as a manager. A similar mould to Beale 
    Some very valid comments, who do you think could do a good job as manager for us?
    Its very difficult isn't it , keeping everyone happy but I would go for Taylor, Appleton or Ferguson as the profile ?
  • I actually think Beale would be a mistake, its obviously very helpful to have a good coach but ultimately its about the quality you have on the pitch and I'd rather have Taylor ( or someone similar) who has detailed knowledge of the best League 1 and League 2 players which is where we will be fishing. 
    Paul Clement would be a good example of an outstanding coach who didn't really cut it as a manager. A similar mould to Beale 
    Some very valid comments, who do you think could do a good job as manager for us?
    Its very difficult isn't it , keeping everyone happy but I would go for Taylor, Appleton or Ferguson as the profile ?
    Interesting , i'm not sure about Ferguson, i think he's 'found' his club, but who knows. I'm trying to stay pretty chilled about it all, you can only take so much stress and anxiety following this club.
  • Knowing our luck, Beale will morph into Les Reed. Things like this just happen at Charlton.
  • edited May 2022
    What could sway it for Michael to come to us, is he was a Charlton fan as a boy also came through our academy, he’s from South East London, Bromley boy, his missus, who was a year above me at school, is also from the area and her family still live in Bromley. A lot of pro’s from a personal life perspective however it’ll be the cons in the way the club is being run at the moment, whether that is a deciding factor I don’t know but I am sure it will be a tough decision either way with their family still being local and it being a big job. 
  • RedRobin said:
    What could sway it for Michael to come to us, is he was a Charlton fan as a boy also came through our academy, he’s from South East London, Bromley boy, his missus, who was a year above me at school, is also from the area and her family still live in Bromley. A lot of pro’s from a personal life perspective however it’ll be the cons in the way the club is being run at the moment, whether that is a deciding factor I don’t know but I am sure it will be a tough decision either way with their family still being local and it being a big job. 
    And how’s the club being run .. it’s being run like a normal club know it’s been a long time since we had a normal club ….. 
  • Unless Thomas Sandgaard has apologised to Michael Beale for his comments last time and head hunted him recently, there is no way Beale would apply again at Cafc.

    "my villa mate said he's on his way"  doesn't really carry much kudos unless the mate is employed by Aston Villa.
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