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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Sorry but that does show how ridiculous xG is.

    I mean its great we're creating so many opportunities etc. and just need to take them.

    But Burton Albion are third on that list and bottom of the whole table.
    So it shows it’s important to convert them?


  • We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
  • It also illustrates how much better we would be doing if we had a striker who could convert.
    Sorry said the ‘s’ word!
  • edited August 2022
    Scoham said:
    Sorry but that does show how ridiculous xG is.

    I mean its great we're creating so many opportunities etc. and just need to take them.

    But Burton Albion are third on that list and bottom of the whole table.
    Disagree, you need to look further into it.

    https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/08/league-one-stats-2022-23/

    Burton are 1st for open play xG against and we’re 2nd.

    So what it’s suggesting is we could both be in for some high scoring games if we keep this up.
    Some interesting graphics in that link. Especially the "team style comparison" shows us way out in front with Derby, Ipswich and MK Dons.

    The "zones of control" are also very insightful. Their aren't many teams better than us at controlling the ball and controlling territory. Perhaps Ipswich aside who look very impressive by all metrics. It could be the year they run away with it.

    But we'll wait a few more weeks to see how things change as their schedule gets harder and ours get easier.
  • If you include set pieces and xG conceded and then sort by xG for minus xG against then we have been the 10th best team in the league so far. Interestingly Barnsley and Oxford are above us so have probably been unlucky so far and Pompey quite far ahead in 1st. 

    It’s still probably too early to read into these things too much, as it’s still quite a small sample size. So us playing a half against 10 men can massively boost our attacking numbers but then also our opposition has probably been tougher than most other teams so that will affect it. 


  • We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
    Swindon ranked 23rd last season in league 2 for it so it’s maybe not one of Garners strengths. Top teams now hire specialist set piece coaches but I doubt our budget can stretch to that unfortunately 
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  • NabySarr said:


    We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
    Swindon ranked 23rd last season in league 2 for it so it’s maybe not one of Garners strengths. Top teams now hire specialist set piece coaches but I doubt our budget can stretch to that unfortunately 
    We’ll have Martin on it teaching his very hard shot
  • I think he’s talking about Tyrece Simpson. Still think it’s highly unlikely we bid that much for him 
  • Could also be the bloke from Salford who supposedly has now got Championship interest too.

    Or it could all just be Colin waffle.
  • Could also be the bloke from Salford who supposedly has now got Championship interest too.

    Or it could all just be Colin waffle.
    I’ve seen that Asante from Salford has a 300k release clause apparently. But I think this account is one of those that’s been waffling all summer 
  • edited August 2022
    Charlton took two gambles on Ryan Inniss and Chuks Aneke. If Aneke could manage to be involved 36 matches out of 46 like two seasons ago then magic as he scored a goal every 100 minutes BUT ever since he was thrown in and Played 95 minutes on his first game back from Brum his injuries are getting worse and longer. A decent 12 month contract max and prove you can be available for an extension for Chuks would have had some validity. The crying shame is Aneke could smash League 1 defences even just playing 30 minutes from the bench most weeks.

    Ryan Inniss can't play more than 15 League games in a season yet gets another contract 🤦🏻‍♂️

    I know the coaches who have mentored Deji since he was 8 years old and they are  surprised how he isn't good enough for Cafc squad in League 1? 
    Professional coaches, not dad's helping out!

    Reality has kicked in for Thomas Sandgaard since the hyperbolic 5 year ambitions and blowing teams out of the water: it achieved the aims of selling a shed load of season tickets 14 months ago but the Charlton fan base is battered from the last decade (longer for most) and now are cynical as they see injury prone player's injured and despite a young manager with a plan, not enough players in vital positions to carry it out over the long hard grind of 46 matches.

    The above isn't a rumour.


    So the timing of his loan was somewhat odd, I'm not sure why we didn't wait until the window was shutting. But from what I've seen of him in the League and Cups, he looks very promising but still very raw. He doesn't have the ability on the ball that a young Konsa or Gomez did. And that's totally fine, those two were anomalies in terms of their ability on the ball as CBs from a young age. But with Garner's system, the CBs are on the ball a lot, and it's something Deji might not yet be ready for.

    That said, sending him on loan to a National League side feels like a half measure, probably because it is, at least in part. I suspect the ability to recall him plays a role in that decision. And it's hard to argue that him playing regularly in mens' football is what's best for his development right now, and him staying at the club would mean a lot of time on the bench and in the Pizza Trophy and U-23s. I think he's too good for that. 

    Hopefully the CB we're looking to bring in is someone who will challenge to be first choice and not fourth choice. I think there is some room for improvement at CB, and I think between Deji and Ness we probably have enough fourth/fifth choice CBs. If we do bring in a first-choice calibre CB, then sending Deji out makes a lot more sense, there's no point in him sticking around as fifth choice. If we don't, well...
  • edited August 2022
    NabySarr said:


    We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
    Swindon ranked 23rd last season in league 2 for it so it’s maybe not one of Garners strengths. Top teams now hire specialist set piece coaches but I doubt our budget can stretch to that unfortunately 
    We’ll have Martin on it teaching his very hard shot
    Jesus, are people still doing this? Worse than A&Eke
  • NabySarr said:


    We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
    Swindon ranked 23rd last season in league 2 for it so it’s maybe not one of Garners strengths. Top teams now hire specialist set piece coaches but I doubt our budget can stretch to that unfortunately 
    We’ll have Martin on it teaching his very hard shot
    Jesus, are people still doing this? Worse than A&Eke

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  • NabySarr said:


    We are way ahead in XG from open play, so just need the finishing touches as so many have been saying. Get that and we will be right up there. Latest stats included btw my lad reckons..
    Interesting that we are top from open play but sit 24th in set play xG.
    Swindon ranked 23rd last season in league 2 for it so it’s maybe not one of Garners strengths. Top teams now hire specialist set piece coaches but I doubt our budget can stretch to that unfortunately 
    We’ll have Martin on it teaching his very hard shot
    Jesus, are people still doing this? Worse than A&Eke
    A&Eke was actually quite good the first few times.
  • edited August 2022
    Last two or three days of the window are nerve wracking.
    My guess is one CB (permanent), and two loans, one of which will be a Championship striker type, and the other a midfielder/winger type.

    There's a small chance I could be wrong, I'm no Ronnie.
  • JamesSeed said:
    My guess is one CB permanent, and two loans, one of which will be a Championship striker type, and the other a midfielder/winger type.

    There's a small chance I could be wrong, I'm no Ronnie.
    Thanks Colin
  • Interesting few days incoming :)
    But a bloke on the forum said we’re not signing a striker!!
  • edited August 2022
    If we sign a really good striker, at least it means all the griping would've been worth it ;)
  • Have a feeling Clare might be sold. Zero itk information. Hope not. 
  • Chunes said:
    If we sign a really good striker, at least it means all the griping would've been worth it ;)
    We can all give Golfie a big pat on the back for saving our season for pointing it out
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