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Luckily the country will be rioting and we will be able to keep warm from the fires in every high street.
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The contrary view on that clip.ME14addick said:Boris gave his last speech today and gave this piece of advice
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have waited ages for Boris Johnson & the Govt of which Liz Truss is a part to advise us what we should do about the extraordinary living crisis that we are facing and FINALLY who knew the answer was a NEW KETTLE?<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ySR9WICH6w">pic.twitter.com/ySR9WICH6w</a></p>— nazir afzal (@nazirafzal) <a href="">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Difficult to trust journalists sometimes. Too much of our ‘news’ is sound bites and headlines.Haven’t seen a recording of the speech beyond the headline but as with lots of opinions on what government can/should/are/are not doing we don’t always get the whole picture.2 -
I heard most of the speech and as usual it was all waffle and soundbites.valleynick66 said:
The contrary view on that clip.ME14addick said:Boris gave his last speech today and gave this piece of advice
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have waited ages for Boris Johnson & the Govt of which Liz Truss is a part to advise us what we should do about the extraordinary living crisis that we are facing and FINALLY who knew the answer was a NEW KETTLE?<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ySR9WICH6w">pic.twitter.com/ySR9WICH6w</a></p>— nazir afzal (@nazirafzal) <a href="">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Difficult to trust journalists sometimes. Too much of our ‘news’ is sound bites and headlines.Haven’t seen a recording of the speech beyond the headline but as with lots of opinions on what government can/should/are/are not doing we don’t always get the whole picture.0 -
The funny thing about this if true, is that he has proved so incompetent, that no one has trouble believing he said that in the context it had been portrayed.valleynick66 said:
The contrary view on that clip.ME14addick said:Boris gave his last speech today and gave this piece of advice
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have waited ages for Boris Johnson & the Govt of which Liz Truss is a part to advise us what we should do about the extraordinary living crisis that we are facing and FINALLY who knew the answer was a NEW KETTLE?<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ySR9WICH6w">pic.twitter.com/ySR9WICH6w</a></p>— nazir afzal (@nazirafzal) <a href="">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Difficult to trust journalists sometimes. Too much of our ‘news’ is sound bites and headlines.Haven’t seen a recording of the speech beyond the headline but as with lots of opinions on what government can/should/are/are not doing we don’t always get the whole picture.2 -
Probably got a mate who runs a kettle making factory.2
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Fair enough.valleynick66 said:
The contrary view on that clip.ME14addick said:Boris gave his last speech today and gave this piece of advice
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have waited ages for Boris Johnson & the Govt of which Liz Truss is a part to advise us what we should do about the extraordinary living crisis that we are facing and FINALLY who knew the answer was a NEW KETTLE?<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ySR9WICH6w">pic.twitter.com/ySR9WICH6w</a></p>— nazir afzal (@nazirafzal) <a href="">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Difficult to trust journalists sometimes. Too much of our ‘news’ is sound bites and headlines.Haven’t seen a recording of the speech beyond the headline but as with lots of opinions on what government can/should/are/are not doing we don’t always get the whole picture.
It's a shame more people didn't apply the same scrutiny to the endless lies and rubbish produced by the likes of Johnson when he was making a living spouting bullshit about the EU. Maybe we would be in a better position now if they did.4 -
Probably just placed a multimillion kettle order with a mate who doesn'tguinnessaddick said:Probably got a mate who runs a kettle making factory.2 -
Well quite. The remain campaign has a lot to answer forBournemouth Addick said:
Fair enough.valleynick66 said:
The contrary view on that clip.ME14addick said:Boris gave his last speech today and gave this piece of advice
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have waited ages for Boris Johnson & the Govt of which Liz Truss is a part to advise us what we should do about the extraordinary living crisis that we are facing and FINALLY who knew the answer was a NEW KETTLE?<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ySR9WICH6w">pic.twitter.com/ySR9WICH6w</a></p>— nazir afzal (@nazirafzal) <a href="">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Difficult to trust journalists sometimes. Too much of our ‘news’ is sound bites and headlines.Haven’t seen a recording of the speech beyond the headline but as with lots of opinions on what government can/should/are/are not doing we don’t always get the whole picture.
It's a shame more people didn't apply the same scrutiny to the endless lies and rubbish produced by the likes of Johnson when he was making a living spouting bullshit about the EU. Maybe we would be in a better position now if they did.
the good thing is should we go down a Scottish independence vote again you’d expect better questions and debate.3 -
The remainers have nothing whatsoever to answer for.
The vote was a simple binary choice that assumed all voters knew four things.
The meaning of the word remain.
The meaning of the word leave.
What the UK is (or was).
What the EU is (or was).
There is nothing in those four things that either remainers or leavers have to answer for.
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If the Scottish Nationalists want a referendum, they simply have to detail what happens on the Scotland/England land border in specific practical terms.
That might focus the minds of voters.0 -
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At this point even after a vote for Scottish independence there is no need for a border other than what is currently there. Scotland is not part of the EU and accession would take some years.seth plum said:If the Scottish Nationalists want a referendum, they simply have to detail what happens on the Scotland/England land border in specific practical terms.
That might focus the minds of voters.1 -
I understand that both Scotland and England are both somehow not part of the EU.
But surely if Scotland votes not to be part of the UK then there is some kind of new border created.
Maybe I am missing something, but I assume leaving means not still being joined except geographically.
Mexico and the USA are joined geographically, but one suggestion has been to build a wall between those two places.0 -
My point exactly but it’s more than the border practicalities.seth plum said:If the Scottish Nationalists want a referendum, they simply have to detail what happens on the Scotland/England land border in specific practical terms.
That might focus the minds of voters.Who owns North Sea oil / gas for example - to get us back on track of this thread.0 -
I suppose international law kicks in.0
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seth plum said:I suppose international law kicks in.To be seen I guess. But as ever it will be up for debate and require clearer articulation so alll sides know what’s at stake.0
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There doesn’t have to be any border control even though there is a border geographically. There’s a border now. Should Scotland ultimately join the EU then in the absence of the problems associated with the NI border I assume a hard border will be put in place.seth plum said:I understand that both Scotland and England are both somehow not part of the EU.
But surely if Scotland votes not to be part of the UK then there is some kind of new border created.
Maybe I am missing something, but I assume leaving means not still being joined except geographically.
Mexico and the USA are joined geographically, but one suggestion has been to build a wall between those two places.0 -
I think you'll find we've already got oneseth plum said:I understand that both Scotland and England are both somehow not part of the EU.
But surely if Scotland votes not to be part of the UK then there is some kind of new border created.
Maybe I am missing something, but I assume leaving means not still being joined except geographically.
Mexico and the USA are joined geographically, but one suggestion has been to build a wall between those two places.1 -
Just need a couple of courses of brickwork on Hadrians Wall and job done.1
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This is good news isn't it ME14?MrWalker said:Horsesa 2 now the world's largest.
Good news.
BBC today.The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.
The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.
A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
Hornsea 2 is part of a huge wind farm development by energy firm Orsted.
"The UK is one of the world leaders in offshore wind," Patrick Harnett,
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We signed a striker yet.2
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Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe. Including countries who rely on Russian gas.MrWalker said:
This is good news isn't it ME14?MrWalker said:Horsesa 2 now the world's largest.
Good news.
BBC today.The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.
The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.
A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
Hornsea 2 is part of a huge wind farm development by energy firm Orsted.
"The UK is one of the world leaders in offshore wind," Patrick Harnett,
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Don't let the truth get in the way........MuttleyCAFC said:
Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe. Including countries who rely on Russian gas.MrWalker said:
This is good news isn't it ME14?MrWalker said:Horsesa 2 now the world's largest.
Good news.
BBC today.The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.
The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.
A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
Hornsea 2 is part of a huge wind farm development by energy firm Orsted.
"The UK is one of the world leaders in offshore wind," Patrick Harnett,
Electricity we are one of the top yes, but Gas we're not even mid table or top ten.4 -
I won't do what you Tories do and find a quote saying they are the most expensive which can easily be done. I will use this quote from one of your rags.Rob7Lee said:
Don't let the truth get in the way........MuttleyCAFC said:
Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe. Including countries who rely on Russian gas.MrWalker said:
This is good news isn't it ME14?MrWalker said:Horsesa 2 now the world's largest.
Good news.
BBC today.The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.
The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.
A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
Hornsea 2 is part of a huge wind farm development by energy firm Orsted.
"The UK is one of the world leaders in offshore wind," Patrick Harnett,
Electricity we are one of the top yes, but Gas we're not even mid table or top ten.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1659283/energy-prices-latest-uk-europe-gas-electricity-inflation-ofgem-announcement-spt
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1 I'm not a Tory (nor affiliated or tied to any other party) so stop making things upMuttleyCAFC said:
I won't do what you Tories do and find a quote saying they are the most expensive which can easily be done. I will use this quote from one of your rags.Rob7Lee said:
Don't let the truth get in the way........MuttleyCAFC said:
Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe. Including countries who rely on Russian gas.MrWalker said:
This is good news isn't it ME14?MrWalker said:Horsesa 2 now the world's largest.
Good news.
BBC today.The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.
The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.
A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
Hornsea 2 is part of a huge wind farm development by energy firm Orsted.
"The UK is one of the world leaders in offshore wind," Patrick Harnett,
Electricity we are one of the top yes, but Gas we're not even mid table or top ten.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1659283/energy-prices-latest-uk-europe-gas-electricity-inflation-ofgem-announcement-spt
2 We can all post links and chose not to read them properly.
3 Your link is future looking, not 'Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe'
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/01/how-do-uk-energy-prices-compare-with-the-rest-of-europe-17277277/
As you can see there are at least 10 countries in Europe whose current Gas cost is greater than the UK. Of course that may look different come October when no doubt we'll move up the table.
But again, don't let the truth get in the way.........
A bit like people moaning about British Gas/Centrica without actually understanding that Centrica are banned from selling Gas to itself (BG).2 -
I was looking at the price hike that we are all looking at surely. Clearly not. And I said energy costs which is ultimately what we pay for, not just gas. You specified gas. I mentioned gas in the context that countries that rely on Russian gas should have bigger issues and it is important of course because 40% of our electricity is produced burning it but I said energy costs in my point.0
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Calm down lads. I’m sure Lizzie is saddling up the white horse and armour for the next photo op.1
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"Great news we are paying the highest energy prices in Europe. Including countries who rely on Russian gas."MuttleyCAFC said:I was looking at the price hike that we are all looking at surely. Clearly not. And I said energy costs which is ultimately what we pay for, not just gas. You specified gas. I mentioned gas in the context that countries that rely on Russian gas should have bigger issues and it is important of course because 40% of our electricity is produced burning it but I said energy costs in my point.
Thats simply not true now, nor from the 1st October. Even the link you posted says post 1st October "UK energy prices higher than almost all of Europe" - so not the 'highest energy prices in Europe'.3 -
Not looked at any of the links but exactly which European countries are paying more or the same as the U.K. please ?0
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Jesus, give it a rest lads.2
