Premier League 21/22

North Lower Neil

Salah definitely thought he'd won it, didn't he?

JohnBoyUK

And just think, Amazon Prime have got behind the scenes footage we can all look forward to...

ValleyGary

Spurs are in a fantastic position if Levy backs Conte. No interference with transfers and gives him a decent kitty. That front 3 are probably the most dangerous in the league. Not sure I can see it happening tho.

Rothko

North Lower Neil said:

Salah definitely thought he'd won it, didn't he?

Nah, think it was relief that they finally got through Wolves, they looked cooked at that point 

Chris_from_Sidcup

North Lower Neil said:

Salah definitely thought he'd won it, didn't he?

He did win it though. Now just 1 behind Thierry Henry's 4 as the all time leading premier league golden boot winner.

Chris_from_Sidcup

North Lower Neil said:

ValleyGary said:

Critical of Pep but he brought on Zinchenko and Gundogan and they both won the game for city. So happy.

He overthinks the CL at times, but domestically they have a great mentality - held off Liverpool by winning all the time in the run-in in 2018-19, for example, then did that today.

2-0 down at West ham last week and came back (and should've won), then 2-0 down today with 15 minutes left. Nobody can question their mentality.

soapboxsam

Exciting last day but did anyone on here not think it was between Liverpool and City with Chelsea 3rd at the beginning of the season?
United were favourites for 4th with Spurs, Arsenal and West ham fighting for 5 to 7th.
Kane didn't get his mandatory ankle injury and Harry and Son are magic together so they pinched 4th once Conte stopped them being Spursy with a soft centre. 

Norwich and Watford were always going to be bottom 2. The biggest surprise was Brighton and Everton who most people had in reverse positions.

Some surprise results and Newcastle having Wilson fit eventually and having a new spirit with new owners and Howe meant they stormed up to mid table but the final positions are becoming very predicable.

The premier League is light years away from the Championship and it is moving further away each season. 

Money goes to money and unless the odious Chelsea suffer from having had Putin's fixer in charge for the last two decades, the status quo will stay the same.

The days of Charlton, Burnley or Ipswich etc being the best of the rest in the Premier has gone for ever.

Notts_Addick

What has been allowed to happen at Burnley with their takeover is scandalous really. Before the takeover they had no debt, 50 million in the bank and a cat 1 academy.

If Kieran Maguire is to be believed, and he's usually bang on, then they now have over 100 million pounds of debt (With 65 million to be paid back now there relegated), and the academy is about to be downgraded. They've also sacked the heartbeat of the club and someone who probably would have had a better chance of keeping them up than the interim coach they promoted, and even if they'd gone down you'd have given Dyche a good chance of getting them straight back up.

Just another example of owners being allowed to buy clubs when they haven't got the funds. The saleable assets in the squad that they do have will be sold to pay off the 65 million they need to pay, and the parachute payments might service some of the interest of the debts remaining.

Hard to see them having much cash left for signings or wages. A scandal reall

cafcfan1990

ValleyGary said:

Spurs are in a fantastic position if Levy backs Conte. No interference with transfers and gives him a decent kitty. That front 3 are probably the most dangerous in the league. Not sure I can see it happening tho.

I don’t think they are as good as City or Liverpools front 3, not when Haaland arrived anyway. 

cafcfan1990

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

Andyessgee90

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

You can definitely add Tarkowski. Wouldn't be surprised if Forrest/Udders take Tarkowski for an experienced defender.

North Lower Neil

Andyessgee90 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

You can definitely add Tarkowski. Wouldn't be surprised if Forrest/Udders take Tarkowski for an experienced defender.

Contract is expiring I think.

cafcfan1990

North Lower Neil said:

Andyessgee90 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

You can definitely add Tarkowski. Wouldn't be surprised if Forrest/Udders take Tarkowski for an experienced defender.

Contract is expiring I think.

Yep, will be leaving on a free. I think he’ll go Newcastle 

North Lower Neil

Would make a lot of sense.  Player Newcastle can get offering better wages than the other West Ham, Palace type options he'd have, and won't cost them too much under FFP etc.

Chris_from_Sidcup

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

Dwight McNeil might get some interest. He's been a PL regular for 3 years now and he's still only 22. 

If only they had a manager who was experienced at operating on a small budget.

Ironically given that Newcastle sent them down, might be the first place they should look for signings. Newcastle will be shifting out a lot of dead wood as they strengthen their squad, players like Matt Ritchie and Dwight Gayle would be ideal for them.

Chris_from_Sidcup

Man City goal difference this season +73
Man Utd goal difference this season 0

se9addick

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. They’ve only really got Pope, Cornet and Weighorst to sell. Even with parachute payments that’s only about 80/90 mil. They’ll need to build a whole new squad cos of the contract players. Unless they get seriously lucky with recruitment and the appointment of a new manager you can easily see them struggling again. 

Dwight McNeil might get some interest. He's been a PL regular for 3 years now and he's still only 22. 

If only they had a manager who was experienced at operating on a small budget.

Ironically given that Newcastle sent them down, might be the first place they should look for signings. Newcastle will be shifting out a lot of dead wood as they strengthen their squad, players like Matt Ritchie and Dwight Gayle would be ideal for them.

I’m not too sure there will be enough in the Burnley kitty even for that. Their owner has to make some pretty enormous loan repayments that fell due on their relegation from he Premier League which will significantly restrict what they are able to spend. 

JohnBoyUK

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. 

Does one have to feel sympathy for the northern anti-football mob? asking for a friend

cafcfan1990

JohnBoyUK said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Burnley are screwed. 

Does one have to feel sympathy for the northern anti-football mob? asking for a friend

I won’t if you don’t

Lincsaddick

The dangers of over borrowing large sums of cash .. Burnley look to be in big trouble following relegation

Burnley owners seek more loans to help the club cope with debt (msn.com)

Addick Addict

Wonder how many people would have predicted that Kane, playing two more games than Son and being the penalty taker too, would score half a dozen goals less than Son? Spookily, the previous season both scored exactly the same number of goals, 23 and 17, but the other way round and Son was the one that played two more games. 

soapboxsam

I feel really depressed about the Chelsea deal going through. 19 titles bought with dirty money. I understand most people on CL don't give a toss. 

Chris_from_Sidcup

soapboxsam said:

I feel really depressed about the Chelsea deal going through. 19 titles bought with dirty money. I understand most people on CL don't give a toss. 

This new deal i think will actually lead to them coming out of this even better. Boehly part owns the LA Dodgers and the LA Lakers, neither of whom are exactly shy in spending money to strengthen the team. There's a Chelsea fan as part of the new board and they've agreed to set aside 1.75 billion to invest in Stamford Bridge, the academy and the womens team.

johnnybev1987

soapboxsam said:

Exciting last day but did anyone on here not think it was between Liverpool and City with Chelsea 3rd at the beginning of the season?
United were favourites for 4th with Spurs, Arsenal and West ham fighting for 5 to 7th.
Kane didn't get his mandatory ankle injury and Harry and Son are magic together so they pinched 4th once Conte stopped them being Spursy with a soft centre. 

Norwich and Watford were always going to be bottom 2. The biggest surprise was Brighton and Everton who most people had in reverse positions.

Some surprise results and Newcastle having Wilson fit eventually and having a new spirit with new owners and Howe meant they stormed up to mid table but the final positions are becoming very predicable.

The premier League is light years away from the Championship and it is moving further away each season. 

Money goes to money and unless the odious Chelsea suffer from having had Putin's fixer in charge for the last two decades, the status quo will stay the same.

The days of Charlton, Burnley or Ipswich etc being the best of the rest in the Premier has gone for ever.

Can tell you support Charlton, proper glass half empty post. You could spin it the other way with there being so much drama and dependent on the last set of fixtures, also for City to hold of a Liverpool team that were on fire. Personally i think its been a great season, hard to predict but in the end you probably could have as you write. 

So happy Liverpool didn't win, also still not sure i want them or Madrid as hate them both but at least with Madrid we wont hear about it. 

Liverpool and City so far ahead of the rest, probably will be for years the way it is looking. 

killerandflash

Lincsaddick said:

The dangers of over borrowing large sums of cash .. Burnley look to be in big trouble following relegation

Burnley owners seek more loans to help the club cope with debt (msn.com)

The tragedy for Burnley fans is that the debt was only created by the takeover. The new owners bought a sensibly run club which lived within its means, and piled debt into it to pay for the takeover, without actually spending vast amounts on the team either.

The previous owners, Burnley fans, should be ashamed of what they did, in selling out to them.

Chris_from_Sidcup

Naturally the signing of Haaland has grabbed all the headlines but City's signing of Julian Alvarez could prove to be even better value.

Still only 22, he's won the Copa America, the Argentine league, Copa Libertadores (south american champions league), was top scorer in Argentina last season, is the current south american footballer of the year and last night he scored SIX in a Libertadores game. 

His cost. 20m. That's less than you'd pay for a decent championship striker.

North Lower Neil

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Naturally the signing of Haaland has grabbed all the headlines but City's signing of Julian Alvarez could prove to be even better value.

Still only 22, he's won the Copa America, the Argentine league, Copa Libertadores (south american champions league), was top scorer in Argentina last season, is the current south american footballer of the year and last night he scored SIX in a Libertadores game. 

His cost. 20m. That's less than you'd pay for a decent championship striker.

I can see him being one of those that City use a bit sparingly at first and then in 18 months or so he looks absokute class.

killerandflash

North Lower Neil said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Naturally the signing of Haaland has grabbed all the headlines but City's signing of Julian Alvarez could prove to be even better value.

Still only 22, he's won the Copa America, the Argentine league, Copa Libertadores (south american champions league), was top scorer in Argentina last season, is the current south american footballer of the year and last night he scored SIX in a Libertadores game. 

His cost. 20m. That's less than you'd pay for a decent championship striker.

I can see him being one of those that City use a bit sparingly at first and then in 18 months or so he looks absokute class.

That's the advantage the likes of City have, they can afford to take punts on future potential

And young players will be happy to wait their turn, as under Pep and City they improve

Chris_from_Sidcup

North Lower Neil said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Naturally the signing of Haaland has grabbed all the headlines but City's signing of Julian Alvarez could prove to be even better value.

Still only 22, he's won the Copa America, the Argentine league, Copa Libertadores (south american champions league), was top scorer in Argentina last season, is the current south american footballer of the year and last night he scored SIX in a Libertadores game. 

His cost. 20m. That's less than you'd pay for a decent championship striker.

I can see him being one of those that City use a bit sparingly at first and then in 18 months or so he looks absokute class.

He was originally supposed to be signing at the end of the south american season (end of the year) and come after the world cup. City have paid an extra 1.5m for him to arrive this summer instead, so they obviously plan to use him.

I think you're right though, can't see him playing too much unless a) he's amazing in training/pre-season b) Sterling or Mahrez leave.

Chizz

SELR_addicks said:

Pablo Mari is terrible though, Brentford need to target balls in behind him. 

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