I know its the way of the world and its just the way it is, but I don't like it.
I hear about these young players doing well in their youth teams and I genuinely as a supporter of this club look forward to seeing them breakthrough into our first team. Unlike in times gone by when you'd get to see that player for a season or two, you'd now be lucky to see him half a dozen times.
Sure some might say it has always been the case, but I would argue the situation changed with the glut of money swilling around since the Premiership started. Prior to that bigger clubs would purchase young players, but only when they could see a route through for that player into their first team. Nowadays it is more sinister. Big clubs speculate on the future worth of a player for reasons of control and manipulation. Hoovering up all the talent primarily ensures that no one else gets him, it also gives them the power to choose the destiny of that player and how best it would suit themselves.
Chelsea had to pay a lot of money to remove Parker from us when we were a threat to them. Nowadays they get in early, save money, earn a bit on loans and sales and keep control.
If the fee is £4m, I'm sorry to inform everyone on here that it's not enough to secure promotion in this day and age. Sunderland spent that on a single player and they're still in this league a couple of seasons later.
It'll help, that's for sure, but it's not a golden ticket to the Championship
I don’t think ‘anyone’ was thinking otherwise Sam.
My tuppence-worth, Burstow was not an academy product but has progressed rapidly, possibly quicker than even we expected, since he joined us a couple of years ago from Maidstone.
In the brief time I saw him, home and away, he showed energy, composure and an obvious eye for goal, in fact, he was an excellent stand in for when either of our main strike pairing of Stockley/Washington were inevitably injured.
Because he was perceived to be 'one of our own' and, we are so desperate for any sort of success after such a torrid few years, he was easy to love, to hype, to overly expect and ultimately, to mourn when he moved on.
I am quite surprised it came as soon as it did, Chelsea clearly saw something in his development they missed when he had trials for them not so long ago.
If TS has accepted a couple of million for him then that, in the short term, would suggest a sensible bit of business, if he is sold by Chelsea for £20 million to the likes of Aston Villa in 2024 then perhaps not so.
It looks like he is coming back on loan, he wont receive the universal adoration he experienced this time last week but, he remains a useful stand in should, as I suspect, Stockley's injury be more complicated than first suggested.
Its a big step for Mason, he seems a sensible lad, will he go onto play regularly for Chelsea? I doubt it, will he go on to have a useful career in the game in either the Championship or higher? very likely in my opinion.
I wish him well, he never played enough for me to decide he was the next Lionel Messi, in the same way Elliot Lee has yet to prove he is he next white Pele.
We played well last night, very well, the future of this Charlton side is Clare/Gilbey/Dobson and lets hope Scott Fraser, Mason Burstow could well have been part of that very promising spine, but, we are a League One Club, with a League One Budget and League One influence over the rest of the game. That's the grim reality, we cant expect any owner to fund a multi million pound annual shortfall without being able to reduce this when the opportunity arises.
I don't think its a lack of ambition, I think it's the harsh realities of owning a third tier football club.
1.6 up front, rising to around 3/4 with a sell on would be decent. Not fantastic, but decent enough I'd say.
If we got 2 million for Bonne we should definitely get more for Burstow.
Bonne had a decent season in the league above and (rightly or wrongly) was signed to be part of a first team Championship squad). Although personally I do hope we haven't accepted less than 2mil up front tbh.
Honestly don’t see the problem with this, we lose money hand over fist and have taken an opportunity to get some back, I’m very confident the vast majority will be reinvested in the summer.
After a decade of madness it seems we’re finally owned by someone who actually cares about Charlton.
Well who knows, maybe Chelsea have bought him, loaned him back for this season and next, pay him 20 times his current salary and also offer to buy Thomas the Valley and Sparrows lane off duchatelet, for £50m with due force involved if duchatelet wants to hold out against the Russian state,
All this to be delivered if burstow has more than 2 games for any club in the premiership in the next three years. By which time he will be worth £100m?
Or maybe we got less than £2m for a guy we have had for less than two years who looks pretty decent but be surprised and pleased if he kicks on,
My tuppence-worth, Burstow was not an academy product but has progressed rapidly, possibly quicker than even we expected, since he joined us a couple of years ago from Maidstone.
In the brief time I saw him, home and away, he showed energy, composure and an obvious eye for goal, in fact, he was an excellent stand in for when either of our main strike pairing of Stockley/Washington were inevitably injured.
Because he was perceived to be 'one of our own' and, we are so desperate for any sort of success after such a torrid few years, he was easy to love, to hype, to overly expect and ultimately, to mourn when he moved on.
I am quite surprised it came as soon as it did, Chelsea clearly saw something in his development they missed when he had trials for them not so long ago.
If TS has accepted a couple of million for him then that, in the short term, would suggest a sensible bit of business, if he is sold by Chelsea for £20 million to the likes of Aston Villa in 2024 then perhaps not so.
It looks like he is coming back on loan, he wont receive the universal adoration he experienced this time last week but, he remains a useful stand in should, as I suspect, Stockley's injury be more complicated than first suggested.
Its a big step for Mason, he seems a sensible lad, will he go onto play regularly for Chelsea? I doubt it, will he go on to have a useful career in the game in either the Championship or higher? very likely in my opinion.
I wish him well, he never played enough for me to decide he was the next Lionel Messi, in the same way Elliot Lee has yet to prove he is he next white Pele.
We played well last night, very well, the future of this Charlton side is Clare/Gilbey/Dobson and lets hope Scott Fraser, Mason Burstow could well have been part of that very promising spine, but, we are a League One Club, with a League One Budget and League One influence over the rest of the game. That's the grim reality, we cant expect any owner to fund a multi million pound annual shortfall without being able to reduce this when the opportunity arises.
I don't think its a lack of ambition, I think it's the harsh realities of owning a third tier football club.
Interesting comment re Burstow about not being one of our own, when the Valley Gold Academy board of honour in Bartams has Joe Aribo on it. The same Aribo who joined the club as a 19 year old after a successful trial after last playing for Staines Town.
My tuppence-worth, Burstow was not an academy product but has progressed rapidly, possibly quicker than even we expected, since he joined us a couple of years ago from Maidstone.
In the brief time I saw him, home and away, he showed energy, composure and an obvious eye for goal, in fact, he was an excellent stand in for when either of our main strike pairing of Stockley/Washington were inevitably injured.
Because he was perceived to be 'one of our own' and, we are so desperate for any sort of success after such a torrid few years, he was easy to love, to hype, to overly expect and ultimately, to mourn when he moved on.
I am quite surprised it came as soon as it did, Chelsea clearly saw something in his development they missed when he had trials for them not so long ago.
If TS has accepted a couple of million for him then that, in the short term, would suggest a sensible bit of business, if he is sold by Chelsea for £20 million to the likes of Aston Villa in 2024 then perhaps not so.
It looks like he is coming back on loan, he wont receive the universal adoration he experienced this time last week but, he remains a useful stand in should, as I suspect, Stockley's injury be more complicated than first suggested.
Its a big step for Mason, he seems a sensible lad, will he go onto play regularly for Chelsea? I doubt it, will he go on to have a useful career in the game in either the Championship or higher? very likely in my opinion.
I wish him well, he never played enough for me to decide he was the next Lionel Messi, in the same way Elliot Lee has yet to prove he is he next white Pele.
We played well last night, very well, the future of this Charlton side is Clare/Gilbey/Dobson and lets hope Scott Fraser, Mason Burstow could well have been part of that very promising spine, but, we are a League One Club, with a League One Budget and League One influence over the rest of the game. That's the grim reality, we cant expect any owner to fund a multi million pound annual shortfall without being able to reduce this when the opportunity arises.
I don't think its a lack of ambition, I think it's the harsh realities of owning a third tier football club.
Exactly this. Burstow will soon be replaced by Kanu and this time next year we are likely to be having the same debate with a different player.
Fans want to hear that their Charlton made good money on a young prospect but it's actually in the club's interest to downplay the amount so that future transfer fees and wage demands don't get out of hand. I'd take all the figures banded about with a pinch of salt
So what does that say of the transfer policy at Brentford. They openly state they are selling players for a £10m profit after owning them for one season. It has turned them into the grand masters of player flipping.
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Again if Jackson feels that 1.6m in this day and age is the going rate for a young talented striker then he's living in the 90s.
I hear about these young players doing well in their youth teams and I genuinely as a supporter of this club look forward to seeing them breakthrough into our first team. Unlike in times gone by when you'd get to see that player for a season or two, you'd now be lucky to see him half a dozen times.
Sure some might say it has always been the case, but I would argue the situation changed with the glut of money swilling around since the Premiership started. Prior to that bigger clubs would purchase young players, but only when they could see a route through for that player into their first team. Nowadays it is more sinister. Big clubs speculate on the future worth of a player for reasons of control and manipulation. Hoovering up all the talent primarily ensures that no one else gets him, it also gives them the power to choose the destiny of that player and how best it would suit themselves.
Chelsea had to pay a lot of money to remove Parker from us when we were a threat to them. Nowadays they get in early, save money, earn a bit on loans and sales and keep control.
In the brief time I saw him, home and away, he showed energy, composure and an obvious eye for goal, in fact, he was an excellent stand in for when either of our main strike pairing of Stockley/Washington were inevitably injured.
Because he was perceived to be 'one of our own' and, we are so desperate for any sort of success after such a torrid few years, he was easy to love, to hype, to overly expect and ultimately, to mourn when he moved on.
I am quite surprised it came as soon as it did, Chelsea clearly saw something in his development they missed when he had trials for them not so long ago.
If TS has accepted a couple of million for him then that, in the short term, would suggest a sensible bit of business, if he is sold by Chelsea for £20 million to the likes of Aston Villa in 2024 then perhaps not so.
It looks like he is coming back on loan, he wont receive the universal adoration he experienced this time last week but, he remains a useful stand in should, as I suspect, Stockley's injury be more complicated than first suggested.
Its a big step for Mason, he seems a sensible lad, will he go onto play regularly for Chelsea? I doubt it, will he go on to have a useful career in the game in either the Championship or higher? very likely in my opinion.
I wish him well, he never played enough for me to decide he was the next Lionel Messi, in the same way Elliot Lee has yet to prove he is he next white Pele.
We played well last night, very well, the future of this Charlton side is Clare/Gilbey/Dobson and lets hope Scott Fraser, Mason Burstow could well have been part of that very promising spine, but, we are a League One Club, with a League One Budget and League One influence over the rest of the game. That's the grim reality, we cant expect any owner to fund a multi million pound annual shortfall without being able to reduce this when the opportunity arises.
I don't think its a lack of ambition, I think it's the harsh realities of owning a third tier football club.
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He WAS one of our own.
He's only on loan....
All this to be delivered if burstow has more than 2 games for any club in the premiership in the next three years. By which time he will be worth £100m?
Or maybe we got less than £2m for a guy we have had for less than two years who looks pretty decent but be surprised and pleased if he kicks on,
Then was one of our own
Now he's on loan.