England v Germany - Match Thread

jimmymelrose

blackpool72 said:

AFKABartram said:

I Have a school meeting tonight 6-7. You couldn’t make it up 

Phone in sick 

Yeah, just don't go. It's not a crime. This is England v Germany. Who are these people that expect normal people to do other stuff?

Laddick01

ValleyGary said:

Hopefully Philips will be allowed to push forward more to support like he did in the Croatia game. Think he’s much better winning the ball and making stuff happen in their half.

Yeah he is actually better when the other team have the ball and he can press. Against Scotland it was all a bit sideways. He’s dangerous when he wins the ball back in the other teams 3rd.

McBobbin

the exodus from my office form 4 onwards will be a treat

supaclive

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

SamB09

Just attack them, i’d rather lose than win playing negative football.

se9addick

MStuartPerm said:

I don’t care who plays, the formation, or the performance as long as we win. 

Know a lot of so called Englishmen who want us to lose and would love to be able to shut them up.

I am no fan of Southgate, I could forgive the penalty miss but not the profiteering through the adverts after and the fact he’s Palace

At the end of the day he’s trying to get England to a major final and I feel we are better equipped under him than anyone since El Tel in 96 to do so. 

What? A lot?

DamoNorthStand

SamB09 said:

Just attack them, i’d rather lose than win playing negative football.

So you would rather lose 5-4 than win 1-0 in a backs to the wall performance and progress to the quarter finals?

ForeverAddickted

supaclive said:

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

We havent won a knockout game at the Euros other than via a penalty shootout...

stoneroses19

SamB09 said:

Just attack them, i’d rather lose than win playing negative football.

I still can’t understand this as a thought. I’d gladly take a dull 1-0 win tonight. 

ShootersHillGuru

Really not sure where this notion that this is a really poor German team and we have the better players comes from. From what I’ve seen they looked pretty good to me. 

blackpool72

SamB09 said:

Just attack them, i’d rather lose than win playing negative football.

Don't agree with this at all. 
Tonight is all about winning 

SouthWest_Addicks

McBobbin said:

the exodus from my office form 4 onwards will be a treat

It looks like most people have called it a day at lunch time.Every train station I pass it has blokes with beers standing around.

SamB09

DamoNorthStand said:

SamB09 said:

Just attack them, i’d rather lose than win playing negative football.

So you would rather lose 5-4 than win 1-0 in a backs to the wall performance and progress to the quarter finals?

Yes , i’ve seen enough dull football games in my life and im only 32. I want to see more games like yesterdays.

ForeverAddickted

ShootersHillGuru said:

Really not sure where this notion that this is a really poor German team and we have the better players comes from. From what I’ve seen they looked pretty good to me. 

Their results and consistency since before the 2018 WC has been mostly mediocre to say the least.

Lordflashheart

supaclive said:

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

Yes we have - Denmark 2002 World Cup, Sweden 2018 World Cup

Cafc43v3r

ForeverAddickted said:

supaclive said:

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

We havent won a knockout game at the Euros other than via a penalty shootout...

How may knock games have we won in 90 minutes period?  None in 1990.

Sweden 2018
Ecuador 2006
Denmark 2002
Paraguay 1986
Argentina 1966
Portugal 1966

Is that it?

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

l think we have a talented bunch who should feel confident that they have enough about them to win this game and progress.
I'd like to think they are not affected by any historic legacy of fear, or "beaten before we kick a ball" mentality that infests some older English football fans.
They are not playing history, they are playing in this game in the here and now.
That said, the German's seem to have a knack of finding a way to win, even when not playing particularly well or when not blessed with an array of star talent.
It is going to be tough, but I hope the players can step up to the plate and as Gareth said, make their own history.
Just please, don't go to penalties

ForeverAddickted

Cafc43v3r said:

ForeverAddickted said:

supaclive said:

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

We havent won a knockout game at the Euros other than via a penalty shootout...

How may knock games have we won in 90 minutes period?  None in 1990.

Sweden 2018
Ecuador 2006
Paraguay 1986
Argentina 1966
Portugal 1966
Germany 1966

Is that it?

Denmark in 2002...

Lordflashheart

ForeverAddickted said:

Cafc43v3r said:

ForeverAddickted said:

supaclive said:

We haven't won a Knockout tournament match against a major nation in 90 mins since 1966.....

We havent won a knockout game at the Euros other than via a penalty shootout...

How may knock games have we won in 90 minutes period?  None in 1990.

Sweden 2018
Ecuador 2006
Paraguay 1986
Argentina 1966
Portugal 1966
Germany 1966

Is that it?

Denmark in 2002...

I beat you to that one 😉

ForeverAddickted

Its the one bit of hope I have with Southgate

Putting a team like Panama to the sword, when we've failed in the past
Winning penalty shootouts
Beating Sweden even

Just feels like we've been breaking down curses under him, hopefully tonight will be another

Lordflashheart

Ahem

I think you are all forgetting that we won Le Tournoi in 1997, beating Italy and France

Failures at major tournaments since 1966 my arse !!! 

colthe3rd

Nice rendition of twist and shout outside Baker Street bringing back memories.

Cafc43v3r

Lordflashheart said:

Ahem

I think you are all forgetting that we won Le Tournoi in 1997, beating Italy and France

Failures at major tournaments since 1966 my arse !!! 

Don't forget the Rous Cup 

Lordflashheart

Cafc43v3r said:

Lordflashheart said:

Ahem

I think you are all forgetting that we won Le Tournoi in 1997, beating Italy and France

Failures at major tournaments since 1966 my arse !!! 

Don't forget the Rous Cup 

Indeed - and the Home Championship - honestly people on here need to brush up on the success of the England football team since 1966

Garrymanilow

I'm always confused by the people who get upset about the idea of playing Rice and Henderson together as if they're the same kind of player. Rice is the deep defensive midfielder who can take the ball forward when needed and Henderson is there to sit deep and recycle the ball, much like how it works at Liverpool, but in place of Rice Fabinho is there to break up play. Liverpool actually play with three midfielders who are comfortable sitting deeper, and they rely a lot on their talented wide players and exceptional full backs. A lot like England in fact. Rice and Henderson in a 4-3-3 is fine, and as long as we're pushing the wing backs forwards a lot and utilising the two men playing off Kane intelligently it will be fine in a 3-4-3 or similar

MStuartPerm

se9addickhi said:

MStuartPerm said:

I don’t care who plays, the formation, or the performance as long as we win. 

Know a lot of so called Englishmen who want us to lose and would love to be able to shut them up.

I am no fan of Southgate, I could forgive the penalty miss but not the profiteering through the adverts after and the fact he’s Palace

At the end of the day he’s trying to get England to a major final and I feel we are better equipped under him than anyone since El Tel in 96 to do so. 

What? A lot?

When I say a lot it’s mainly people on a whats app group I play football with. They have been backing against England from the start and doing nothing but moaning and willing us to lose. 

I have bitten my tongue so far but if we lose and they start gloating I may be looking for a new team as I am not a good loser( not a good trait for a Charlton fan).

ForeverAddickted

I presume we'll be in our white kit tonight as we've been drawn as the Home team?

MuttleyCAFC

ShootersHillGuru said:

Really not sure where this notion that this is a really poor German team and we have the better players comes from. From what I’ve seen they looked pretty good to me. 

They seriously lack pace in defence and midfield. A team like England should punish that.

supaclive

Sweden and Denmark are NOT major footballing nations.....

se9addick

MStuartPerm said:

se9addickhi said:

MStuartPerm said:

I don’t care who plays, the formation, or the performance as long as we win. 

Know a lot of so called Englishmen who want us to lose and would love to be able to shut them up.

I am no fan of Southgate, I could forgive the penalty miss but not the profiteering through the adverts after and the fact he’s Palace

At the end of the day he’s trying to get England to a major final and I feel we are better equipped under him than anyone since El Tel in 96 to do so. 

What? A lot?

When I say a lot it’s mainly people on a whats app group I play football with. They have been backing against England from the start and doing nothing but moaning and willing us to lose. 

I have bitten my tongue so far but if we lose and they start gloating I may be looking for a new team as I am not a good loser( not a good trait for a Charlton fan).

Mental. Make better choices around who you spend your time with!