Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Why would you start at £500k on Wednesday when they could except £300k by deadline day? You lose money that could be the difference between signing one good player and signing two.
They need the money and he’s not signing another contract. Putting your first bid as the asking price is not an intelligent way to conduct business.
Hypothetical I know because still a few days left to make some wonderful signings. ;-)
But if for whatever reason we sign next to f**k all, will TS be open and honest with the reasons why or will he generate some serious spin of the like that has never before been seen at SE7?...( Which will take some doing!)
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Great idea, if you can quickly CHAPS over £300K to TS it'll be sorted by this time tomorrow.
Sandgaard should just pay Gillingham £5m and get it done so he can play Saturday.
Hypothetical I know because still a few days left to make some wonderful signings. ;-)
But if for whatever reason we sign next to f**k all, will TS be open and honest with the reasons why or will he generate some serious spin of the like that has never before been seen at SE7?...( Which will take some doing!)
Well based on his previous form I think it will be somewhere in between. He's open and honest enough to confess that he HAS messed up but probably have a very long list of reasons (of varying plausibility) why.
Look at the aftermath of the Red Robin fiasco - a polished statement and moved quickly on.
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Why would you start at £500k on Wednesday when they could except £300k by deadline day? You lose money that could be the difference between signing one good player and signing two.
They need the money and he’s not signing another contract. Putting your first bid as the asking price is not an intelligent way to conduct business.
Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.
But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town.
Lower in the league after four games. Perhaps that’s why Kane has refused to join City - he has looked at the current position of Spurs and them.
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Because if you start with 500k they'll just ask for a million and you end up paying 750k (all figures approximate obviously).
It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Because if you start with 500k they'll just ask for a million and you end up paying 750k (all figures approximate obviously).
It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.
In a pandemic? With little or nobody else offering near your asking price? I wouldn't bank on that - which is why we got Kirk for less than was being asked in January...
I think they will accepted 350-400k for Dempey by Friday
Do you know something we all don't, sounds like you just want us to cave in, I mean why not go the whole hog and bung 'em 500k, he is clearly not worth to us what they are after, I mean 500k/750K ffs, get real
Forest were said to be interested in Dempsey earlier in the window and said to have been quoted £750k Also rumours that Evans is threatening to leave as deeply unchuffed. Obviously won’t unless offered another job, but does suggest that all is not well in their camp.
Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.
But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town.
Dear god do you find the negatives in everything? We are 4 games, just 4 games into the season! What on earth were you saying in 19/20 when we won just 1 game in our first 6 and you know how that season finished! Dempsey is not stupid he knows that in the end we have a better chance of going up than the Gills, unless of course he is as negative as you!
We can put a cheeky low offer in all we want, the situation we've put ourselves into is who's more desperate, Gillingham for cash or us for half decent players. This was the risk off thinking we can find major bargains at the end of the window, we might but we might not.
We've made the remainder of the window a mini January, clubs and agents will see our league position, read the quotes from Adkins about needing help, there's going to be a lot of who blinks first. Can the club's needing money hold off until January more so than us...?
Wave a million in front of them and take Dempsey and Tucker 😬
When we needed a winger in Jan we basically went 'deadline day fishing' and threw our bate (offer) out to multiple clubs to see if we got any bites. The outcome on that occasion was:
Josh Morris - unsuccessful Charlie Kirk - unsuccessful (in Jan) Jordan Graham - unsuccessful DJ - successful
I expect it will be a similar approach this year. If Gillingham (who need the cash) or Crewe (who have a player that has refused to play) dont accept or negotiate close to our offer then we'll simply move on to the next target until we find a club that does (exactly like we did with Gillingham in Jan when discussing a deal for Graham....who ended up leaving them on a free later in the summer).
I think we could do with both Dempsey & Lowery so hopefully the pressure of the looming deadline & need for their clubs to sell results in deals being agreed.
Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?
I heard that the budget isn't great because TS was surprised by how much it was costing more than he believed. Someone has said that some investment didn’t occur. Bit like Cash when he decides to pull out but different reasons.
I don’t believe this to be a million miles away. I reckon that a few things have come to light caused by previous owners since the purchase that has increased the debt and has made Tommy reduce the budget.
Hopefully after the window is shut the reasons behind the weird window will be revealed.
We managed without an experienced back up keeper last season. I think we have 2 young keepers who can cover. I think we need a bulldozer striker as an alternative to Stockley. Hoofing the ball to him surrounded by defenders isn’t working.
Would the gillingham chairman sell to us? I know beggars can’t be choosers but their chairman hates us. I reckon he would hold out for a £50k lower offer rather than sell to us
I think they will accepted 350-400k for Dempey by Friday
Do you know something we all don't, sounds like you just want us to cave in, I mean why not go the whole hog and bung 'em 500k, he is clearly not worth to us what they are after, I mean 500k/750K ffs, get real
Only a fool offers the asking price at the start. Also it doesn't appear that we have much money at the moment so I'd sooner the club play it smart and test the waters instead of throwing money at anyone at the first stage. Us fans don't have the inside knowledge of the inner workings at Gillingham. Perhaps they need to recover money from selling Dempsey and we are aware of that fact or we might being using this to put pressure on Crewe selling the other midfielder we're in for.
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
Because if you start with 500k they'll just ask for a million and you end up paying 750k (all figures approximate obviously).
It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.
In a pandemic? With little or nobody else offering near your asking price? I wouldn't bank on that - which is why we got Kirk for less than was being asked in January...
Well with the money being thrown around by Wigan, Ipswich etc they might very well be gambling that if they hold out they might get someone who will pay it.
This is one case where those clubs doing more business than us might actually prove a good thing IF it means they are done and won't be gazumping us on deadline day.
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They need the money and he’s not signing another contract. Putting your first bid as the asking price is not an intelligent way to conduct business.
But if for whatever reason we sign next to f**k all, will TS be open and honest with the reasons why or will he generate some serious spin of the like that has never before been seen at SE7?...( Which will take some doing!)
Look at the aftermath of the Red Robin fiasco - a polished statement and moved quickly on.
Perhaps that’s why Kane has refused to join City - he has looked at the current position of Spurs and them.
It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.
Also rumours that Evans is threatening to leave as deeply unchuffed. Obviously won’t unless offered another job, but does suggest that all is not well in their camp.
Dempsey is not stupid he knows that in the end we have a better chance of going up than the Gills, unless of course he is as negative as you!
You offer 200-250k as a start and come back to negotiate.
The fact its out there that we offered 200k means they are applying pressure for a higher bid.
We've made the remainder of the window a mini January, clubs and agents will see our league position, read the quotes from Adkins about needing help, there's going to be a lot of who blinks first. Can the club's needing money hold off until January more so than us...?
Wave a million in front of them and take Dempsey and Tucker 😬
Josh Morris - unsuccessful
Charlie Kirk - unsuccessful (in Jan)
Jordan Graham - unsuccessful
DJ - successful
I expect it will be a similar approach this year. If Gillingham (who need the cash) or Crewe (who have a player that has refused to play) dont accept or negotiate close to our offer then we'll simply move on to the next target until we find a club that does (exactly like we did with Gillingham in Jan when discussing a deal for Graham....who ended up leaving them on a free later in the summer).
I think we could do with both Dempsey & Lowery so hopefully the pressure of the looming deadline & need for their clubs to sell results in deals being agreed.
Hopefully after the window is shut the reasons behind the weird window will be revealed.
This is one case where those clubs doing more business than us might actually prove a good thing IF it means they are done and won't be gazumping us on deadline day.