If we could somehow get Dempsey and Lowery (I don't know how likely this is and it's probably one or the other) that would be a very good couple of additions.
Agree it would be an upgrade on what we’ve already got, but wouldn’t that be one too many central midfielders?
We’d have JFC, Gilbey, Dobson, Clare, Morgan, Dempsey and Lowery all fighting for 3 places
Possibly one too many , could mean Dempsey is loaned out . But would allow for rotation
The Dempsey that Elliot mentions would be Kyle... Not Ben
Could we get lapslie back think he would walk in this team now.
He can’t get in Mansfield’s team
Why the lol? It’s true, he has started one game for Mansfield this season and has been on the bench every other game which suggests he isn’t interested.
I don’t get how a league 2 squad player like lapslie is all of a sudden good enough but when we sign a league 2 player, there is melt down on here?
Why do you question every lol you get? Someone might be laughing at the fact he can't get in the team, as opposed to laughing at you. Get a grip ffs
Because it’s weird. What’s funny about saying handout is in the national squad. If you were sitting in a pub and someone laughed in your face, what would you say. It’s rude.
Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
I don't think there has been a light bulb moment. The price must have gone down else why bid now?
Gillingham are desperate for a striker and they can't bring one in without selling Dempsey and possibly Tucker as well.
Crewe can't do anything while the still have Lowery on the books. There are probably a dozen or so other clubs in the same situation.
The problem is we have left ourselves too short and are more desperate than we needed to be.
I don't think it's a question of a "lightbulb moment", more like they put a price out there that no-one would pay so they now have to consider either accepting a lower price or not selling him (which as you say would not really suit them in bigger picture terms.)
If we are interested I suspect it's been the case for a while but either we've ramped it up due to performances or a change in the Lowery situation (if indeed he is on our radar) or they've buckled and are now actively trying to sell him.
If we could somehow get Dempsey and Lowery (I don't know how likely this is and it's probably one or the other) that would be a very good couple of additions.
Agree it would be an upgrade on what we’ve already got, but wouldn’t that be one too many central midfielders?
We’d have JFC, Gilbey, Dobson, Clare, Morgan, Dempsey and Lowery all fighting for 3 places
We need a squad and seeing as we play one up front, this is the kind of depth I was hoping to see this season.
If we could somehow get Dempsey and Lowery (I don't know how likely this is and it's probably one or the other) that would be a very good couple of additions.
Agree it would be an upgrade on what we’ve already got, but wouldn’t that be one too many central midfielders?
We’d have JFC, Gilbey, Dobson, Clare, Morgan, Dempsey and Lowery all fighting for 3 places
Possibly one too many , could mean Dempsey is loaned out . But would allow for rotation
The Dempsey that Elliot mentions would be Kyle... Not Ben
Oh my bad for misreading it! Got a bit confused there but that now makes sense.
Would possibly be too many to balance , of course there's Watson too.
If we could somehow get Dempsey and Lowery (I don't know how likely this is and it's probably one or the other) that would be a very good couple of additions.
Agree it would be an upgrade on what we’ve already got, but wouldn’t that be one too many central midfielders?
We’d have JFC, Gilbey, Watson, Dobson, Clare, Morgan, Dempsey and Lowery all fighting for 3 places
I doubt JFC or Gilbey will be fighting anyone soon. And Watson was not supposed to be playing this season
Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
I don't think there has been a light bulb moment. The price must have gone down else why bid now?
Gillingham are desperate for a striker and they can't bring one in without selling Dempsey and possibly Tucker as well.
Crewe can't do anything while the still have Lowery on the books. There are probably a dozen or so other clubs in the same situation.
The problem is we have left ourselves too short and are more desperate than we needed to be.
I don't think it's a question of a "lightbulb moment", more like they put a price out there that no-one would pay so they now have to consider either accepting a lower price or not selling him (which as you say would not really suit them in bigger picture terms.)
If we are interested I suspect it's been the case for a while but either we've ramped it up due to performances or a change in the Lowery situation (if indeed he is on our radar) or they've buckled and are now actively trying to sell him.
Sorry I ment a light bulb moment in our recruitment team. In terms of we better get off our arses. I suspect they knew this would happen.
We need a squad and seeing as we play one up front, this is the kind of depth I was hoping to see this season.
Yeah there’s nothing wrong with depth and competition for places, there’s just a fine line between squad depth and too many high earners that can’t get in the team.
I’m just being picky, it’s certainly a better problem to have than the one we’re facing now.
If we could somehow get Dempsey and Lowery (I don't know how likely this is and it's probably one or the other) that would be a very good couple of additions.
Agree it would be an upgrade on what we’ve already got, but wouldn’t that be one too many central midfielders?
We’d have JFC, Gilbey, Dobson, Clare, Morgan, Dempsey and Lowery all fighting for 3 places
Don't forget the main man Ben Watson...
Cheers I’ve edited the above.
I try to forget Ben Watson was our marquee signing last year
Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
I don't think there has been a light bulb moment. The price must have gone down else why bid now?
Gillingham are desperate for a striker and they can't bring one in without selling Dempsey and possibly Tucker as well.
Crewe can't do anything while the still have Lowery on the books. There are probably a dozen or so other clubs in the same situation.
The problem is we have left ourselves too short and are more desperate than we needed to be.
I don't think it's a question of a "lightbulb moment", more like they put a price out there that no-one would pay so they now have to consider either accepting a lower price or not selling him (which as you say would not really suit them in bigger picture terms.)
If we are interested I suspect it's been the case for a while but either we've ramped it up due to performances or a change in the Lowery situation (if indeed he is on our radar) or they've buckled and are now actively trying to sell him.
Sorry I ment a light bulb moment in our recruitment team. In terms of we better get off our arses. I suspect they knew this would happen.
Oh right, that makes sense. I do agree that they've probably guessed this would happen but I don't think we've suddenly out of the blue just decided to make an offer, I think this has been brewing in the background but we're finally seeing the "end of window" increase in movement that's apparently going to salvage our season*
* I'm not saying this is ACTUALLY going to save our season before the pedantic crew jump on this sentence.
We need a squad and seeing as we play one up front, this is the kind of depth I was hoping to see this season.
Yeah there’s nothing wrong with depth and competition for places, there’s just a fine line between squad depth and too many high earners that can’t get in the team.
I’m just being picky, it’s certainly a better problem to have than the one we’re facing now.
Tbh I only want to see Watson doing what Pearce is currently doing, regardless of his wages and then I’d see the others (if Lowery and Dempsey signed) fighting it out which would be 4 players for 7 spots. I also really think if we don’t improve this area we will have a very long and hard season.
I'm imagining that top class journalist Jim White, with his stupid f*cking yellow tie, constantly saying "we're going back to The Valley for some more breaking news" over and over again!
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?
Depends how you look at it. We had no money for fees when Bowyer was here but he inherited a much higher wage bill to play with, as well as a more talented crop of u23’s
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
We may not consider he is worth Gillingham's valuation.
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
We may not consider he is worth Gillingham's valuation.
So easy to spend other peoples' money!
Or we may agree with their valuation but we know they’re skint, much like teams did to us over the years.
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never please It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.
Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacement
I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.
Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacement
Gills can't afford to replace him, and even if they could I thought they were under a transfer embargo.
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
Yes but the trick is getting Gillingham to accept 500k. They probably quoted more
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never please It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
Exactly this. Some out there have no clue how these processes nor negotiations work 🤦🏻♂️. I am only too pleased to see a) a bid for a player is out in the public domain b) the player that has been bid upon looks pretty decent at L1 level.
Unless a bidding war starts and if we are serious about him and not using him as a pawn to secure another target (ie express serious interest elsewhere to try to close out a deal for an already preferred target), we will probably secure him undisclosed but between our opening and their bottom end estimate. Whatever happens, like others, I really hope Nigel has a few new quality options to use come this weekend in order to kick start our season.
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If we are interested I suspect it's been the case for a while but either we've ramped it up due to performances or a change in the Lowery situation (if indeed he is on our radar) or they've buckled and are now actively trying to sell him.
Oh my bad for misreading it! Got a bit confused there but that now makes sense.
Would possibly be too many to balance , of course there's Watson too.
* I'm not saying this is ACTUALLY going to save our season before the pedantic crew jump on this sentence.
I'm imagining that top class journalist Jim White, with his stupid f*cking yellow tie, constantly saying "we're going back to The Valley for some more breaking news" over and over again!
So easy to spend other peoples' money!
It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
Unless a bidding war starts and if we are serious about him and not using him as a pawn to secure another target (ie express serious interest elsewhere to try to close out a deal for an already preferred target), we will probably secure him undisclosed but between our opening and their bottom end estimate. Whatever happens, like others, I really hope Nigel has a few new quality options to use come this weekend in order to kick start our season.