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Wayne Rooney's Derby County - not any more (p41)
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‘Reluctantly accept’? Who the fuck do they think they are. You took the piss for years, now deal with the consequences.MattF said:32 -
Reluctantly accept = We did not have a leg to stand on.19
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The media don’t seem to attach the WR handle so much lately, seeing as they are pants and going down.0
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I'm not in favour of such a large deduction, seeing that the 12 points deduction will probably relegate them anyway
UNLESS some of it gets carried forward to next season, as otherwise they will just give up this season, knowing they can start afresh next season3 -
Players dont just give up. Most professional footballers go out to win.killerandflash said:I'm not in favour of such a large deduction, seeing that the 12 points deduction will probably relegate them anyway
UNLESS some of it gets carried forward to next season, as otherwise they will just give up this season, knowing they can start afresh next season
And the 21 point deduction is in the rules.2 -
I'm not so sure, with the 12 point deduction they were 9 points from safety and could've potentially made that up given that they don't concede many and are tough to beat (only lost 5 which is the same as 3 of the play off placed teams).killerandflash said:I'm not in favour of such a large deduction, seeing that the 12 points deduction will probably relegate them anyway
UNLESS some of it gets carried forward to next season, as otherwise they will just give up this season, knowing they can start afresh next season
The extra deduction pretty much condemns them.
They can't really start afresh next season until they find an owner as they don't have any money and i'm sure i read they'll be hit with another transfer ban if they don't settle old transfer debts. Arsenal were one club who agreed to defer a payment (for Bielik) but without an owner they won't be able to pay it next summer either.2 -
It would be wrong IMO if Derby escaped the relegation they richly deserve, but it would not be right for the fans for punishment to continue into another season.The EFL need to introduce automatic relegation into their rules for financial cheating as this messing about with point deduction affects other clubs unfairly and still leaves the hope of getting away with it to these owners. Giving the stark reality to these owners of the consequences may actually help. Interesting that the administrators think that certainty will help them sell the Club.7
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If Mel Morris currently owns the stadium I don’t really see how Derby Co football club going out of business is of any use to him. He’s left with a white elephant asset in a part of town where it probably isn’t worth that much for redevelopment when taking into consideration the demolition costs etc. I would imagine there are still plenty of brown field sites much cheaper to develop. Assuming Morris wants something out of ownership of the stadium he’d be better off either gifting it to the football club or selling it dirt cheap. Am I missing something?1
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Isn't the stadium mortgaged up to the eye balls to an American finance company?ShootersHillGuru said:If Mel Morris currently owns the stadium I don’t really see how Derby Co football club going out of business is of any use to him. He’s left with a white elephant asset in a part of town where it probably isn’t worth that much for redevelopment when taking into consideration the demolition costs etc. I would imagine there are still plenty of brown field sites much cheaper to develop. Assuming Morris wants something out of ownership of the stadium he’d be better off either gifting it to the football club or selling it dirt cheap. Am I missing something?1 -
Not so much for Derby's situation, but it's also unfair if a club goes into admin, and takes the 12 point and relegation this season, knowing it can blitz the division below the next season, with all its non football debts written offRedrobo said:It would be wrong IMO if Derby escaped the relegation they richly deserve, but it would not be right for the fans for punishment to continue into another season.The EFL need to introduce automatic relegation into their rules for financial cheating as this messing about with point deduction affects other clubs unfairly and still leaves the hope of getting away with it to these owners. Giving the stark reality to these owners of the consequences may actually help. Interesting that the administrators think that certainty will help them sell the Club.1 - Sponsored links:
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I don't think you'd have this opinion if you didn't support a club who'll likely be looking to get promoted out of League One next season.killerandflash said:
Not so much for Derby's situation, but it's also unfair if a club goes into admin, and takes the 12 point and relegation this season, knowing it can blitz the division below the next season, with all its non football debts written offRedrobo said:It would be wrong IMO if Derby escaped the relegation they richly deserve, but it would not be right for the fans for punishment to continue into another season.The EFL need to introduce automatic relegation into their rules for financial cheating as this messing about with point deduction affects other clubs unfairly and still leaves the hope of getting away with it to these owners. Giving the stark reality to these owners of the consequences may actually help. Interesting that the administrators think that certainty will help them sell the Club.
That said, in the event, I agree entirely, lol0 -
He can still rent it to the new owners ala Roland or sell it to them if they are willing to pay his price.ShootersHillGuru said:If Mel Morris currently owns the stadium I don’t really see how Derby Co football club going out of business is of any use to him. He’s left with a white elephant asset in a part of town where it probably isn’t worth that much for redevelopment when taking into consideration the demolition costs etc. I would imagine there are still plenty of brown field sites much cheaper to develop. Assuming Morris wants something out of ownership of the stadium he’d be better off either gifting it to the football club or selling it dirt cheap. Am I missing something?
So it seems so even less reason for him to give it away.Cafc43v3r said:
Isn't the stadium mortgaged up to the eye balls to an American finance company?ShootersHillGuru said:If Mel Morris currently owns the stadium I don’t really see how Derby Co football club going out of business is of any use to him. He’s left with a white elephant asset in a part of town where it probably isn’t worth that much for redevelopment when taking into consideration the demolition costs etc. I would imagine there are still plenty of brown field sites much cheaper to develop. Assuming Morris wants something out of ownership of the stadium he’d be better off either gifting it to the football club or selling it dirt cheap. Am I missing something?
But remember how SOME Derby fans praised MM for running rings round the EFL FFP rules.3 -
The other problem is the Morris sold Pride Park to himself for £81m to dodge financial fair play rules.
Everyone bar some Derby fan knew that was a silly number but if he now sells it for a lot less I imagine the EFL and maybe HMRC will be asking questions.13 -
Championship side Derby County have been deducted a further nine points after admitting breaches of English Football League accounting rules.
The club were previously docked 12 points for going into administration and have agreed to the dismissal of their appeal against that decision.
The latest penalty leaves Wayne Rooney's side on -3 points - 18 points from safety at the foot of the table.
And it means they are almost certain to be relegated to League One.
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Great news. Finally the chickens have come home to roost.clive said:Championship side Derby County have been deducted a further nine points after admitting breaches of English Football League accounting rules.
The club were previously docked 12 points for going into administration and have agreed to the dismissal of their appeal against that decision.
The latest penalty leaves Wayne Rooney's side on -3 points - 18 points from safety at the foot of the table.
And it means they are almost certain to be relegated to League One.
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Southall getting his supa dupa phone out as we speak…2
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Out of his arse hopefully?2
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It’s true it is Wayne Rooney’s Derby County!
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I believe in karma.....:-)1
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I feel that a big vote of thanks go out to Wayne & his Derby County for "accepting" a further 9 point deduction in such a sporting manner.Mendonca In Asdas said:It’s true it is Wayne Rooney’s Derby County!20 -
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Grandma We Love You.10
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On the subject of WR himself I would assume it must be costing an arm and a leg to employ him .Purely for cost savings I would assume his days must be numbered. Apologise in advance if I have missed something0
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I read the other day there is some American billionaire interested in taking them over, so there might be some hope for Derby fans after all.0
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“Duurrby” 🇺🇸Chris_from_Sidcup said:I read the other day there is some American billionaire interested in taking them over, so there might be some hope for Derby fans after all.1 -
Depends if they're even able to pay his wages.lolwray said:On the subject of WR himself I would assume it must be costing an arm and a leg to employ him .Purely for cost savings I would assume his days must be numbered. Apologise in advance if I have missed something
If they then get rid of them, they're definitely going to have to pay compensation
Between a rock and a hard place if he doesn't just resign.0
