Anyone heard of a realistic time scale for when he is due to return? Season finishes in three months times. Always assumed we would just register him within the squad in January. Stating to look he will not play any part this season.
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
TBF, 2 of those seasons he was kept out of the side by Cullen, and obviously this season he's had an horrific injury, so that's really only one of the last 6 he's played 15 or less games when he should have played more.
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
To be fair, the first season he only joined in January. Of the remaining 5 seasons Decent Injured Recovering from previous injury, never really got going Decent Injured for nearly all the season
Two decent seasons out of six (ok, five and a half) is still not a good look. Don't get me wrong, I like Jake and think he's done a great job for us when he's fit. But if we're serious about getting promotion next season we really don't need yet another period where we've so many injuries that we have to use players out of position or call up inexperienced kids. We need a fully fit squad so why hamper ourselves with players who have a history of injury?
Just a reminder, while we're considering which players will survive the great summer clear-out, that in the 6 seasons that Jake has been with us he's managed to play in more than 15 games a season only twice.
A bit of context though?
When JFC joined Charlton in January 2017, there was only 19 games left. He played in 15.
The next season, 2017-18, JFC played in 43 from 46.
JFC suffered ACL injury in August 2018, just 2 days before the 2018-19 seaon commenced. Josh Cullen was brought in as his direct replacement. Credit to JFC, he fought his way back to sufficient fitness to merit a sub appearance just before the end of that League season.
Cullen was brought back for the Championship season, 2019-20. JFC was never going to dislodge him or Connor Gallagher although he put in a terrific performance away at Fulham in the unfamiliar position of LWB. Suffered a troublesome hamstring soon after which kept him out for a lengthy period.
Typically, players who've been out for long periods suffer unrelated injuries as their body needs to adapt once again to the physical rigeurs of League football. JFC managed just 11 appearances.
Last season JFC once again established himself in the team, influential and dependable, before ACL injury struck in the penultimate game of the season. 34 appearances.
Remember ACL was an injury that not so many years ago forced players into early retirement. Yet again JFC has shown the grit and fortitude to fight his way back to fitness - no doubt character building.
JFC has the ability and experience. He's fought his way back into the team.
It's a no-brainer to re-sign him if he can he prove his fitness.
Or he knows he is staying so why risk further injury when our next season doesn't kick off for 3+ months?
If he wasn’t going to stay he would be getting the Elliott Lee treatment and just left out. Zero point risking him or Fraser and losing them for pre season.
Or he knows he is staying so why risk further injury when our next season doesn't kick off for 3+ months?
If he wasn’t going to stay he would be getting the Elliott Lee treatment and just left out. Zero point risking him or Fraser and losing them for pre season.
Could say that about anyone. Dobson consistently plays the full 90 minutes. CBT is often doing the same. Stockley playing but isn’t fully fit.
The management of JFC post injury is a bit curious, starting him quite soon after his comeback, but hardly using him since them.
Starts against Wimbledon Unused sub against Rotherham Sub against Morecambe Unused sub against Cambridge
Surely that's just us being careful with him after a long time out to ensure he's healthy for a full pre-season etc. Has he played any U23 games in that time?
The management of JFC post injury is a bit curious, starting him quite soon after his comeback, but hardly using him since them.
Starts against Wimbledon Unused sub against Rotherham Sub against Morecambe Unused sub against Cambridge
Surely that's just us being careful with him after a long time out to ensure he's healthy for a full pre-season etc. Has he played any U23 games in that time?
So why start him against Wimbledon? Morgan was available that game, and has played the next three
Logically his first start would be after a few sub appearances
The management of JFC post injury is a bit curious, starting him quite soon after his comeback, but hardly using him since them.
Starts against Wimbledon Unused sub against Rotherham Sub against Morecambe Unused sub against Cambridge
Would he have come on against Morecambe if we were winning?
It says to me either he isn't fit and so isn't being risked or there could be contract implications if he plays a handful of games. It could be that Jackson just doesn't fancy him but given the alternatives I find that hard, not impossible mind, to believe.
I think it might be more of the case that jacko knows he wants JFC for next season but doesn't want to risk him, especially when there is nothing really to play for, well except 12th anyway. So hes using this time to give the over midfielders a chance to 'win him over' to see if they are in his plans for next year
Jackson knows what JFC can do, so he doesn't need to risk him in meaningless games. The question will be whether Charlton risk giving JFC a new contract or not. As a fit player, JFC is perfectly good enough for us in League One. Don't forget, he even did well as a LWB (away to Fulham) and left-back in The Championship.
You all give the Club/Management way too much leeway with "masterplans". The fact is JFC wants to play and is fit. You don't progress to giving somebody less minutes following a return from injury.
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https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-jackson-provides-injury-update-ahead-of-efl-trophy-last-eight-match-at-hartlepool/
Anyone heard of a realistic time scale for when he is due to return? Season finishes in three months times. Always assumed we would just register him within the squad in January. Stating to look he will not play any part this season.
Decent
Injured
Recovering from previous injury, never really got going
Decent
Injured for nearly all the season
A bit of context though?
When JFC joined Charlton in January 2017, there was only 19 games left. He played in 15.
The next season, 2017-18, JFC played in 43 from 46.
JFC suffered ACL injury in August 2018, just 2 days before the 2018-19 seaon commenced. Josh Cullen was brought in as his direct replacement.
Credit to JFC, he fought his way back to sufficient fitness to merit a sub appearance just before the end of that League season.
Cullen was brought back for the Championship season, 2019-20. JFC was never going to dislodge him or Connor Gallagher although he put in a terrific performance away at Fulham in the unfamiliar position of LWB. Suffered a troublesome hamstring soon after which kept him out for a lengthy period.
Typically, players who've been out for long periods suffer unrelated injuries as their body needs to adapt once again to the physical rigeurs of League football. JFC managed just 11 appearances.
Last season JFC once again established himself in the team, influential and dependable, before ACL injury struck in the penultimate game of the season.
34 appearances.
Remember ACL was an injury that not so many years ago forced players into early retirement.
Yet again JFC has shown the grit and fortitude to fight his way back to fitness - no doubt character building.
JFC has the ability and experience.
He's fought his way back into the team.
It's a no-brainer to re-sign him if he can he prove his fitness.
Starts against Wimbledon
Unused sub against Rotherham
Sub against Morecambe
Unused sub against Cambridge
Logically his first start would be after a few sub appearances
It says to me either he isn't fit and so isn't being risked or there could be contract implications if he plays a handful of games. It could be that Jackson just doesn't fancy him but given the alternatives I find that hard, not impossible mind, to believe.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/jake-forster-caskey-on-his-charlton-athletic-future-confirms-no-contact-yet-over-deal-trigger/