Just met a chap at shoulder injury class who's injury was caused by a flu jab. Mine was from a covid jab as previously mentioned. I'm not seeking to put anyone off but do think it's always worth a mention to the nurse/ doc/ casual worker doing the jab to make sure they hit the right spot- which is a specific small triangular zone in the upper arm, and no-where else!
The evidence keeps coming. For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
The evidence keeps coming. For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
The evidence keeps coming. For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
The evidence keeps coming. For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
It takes the briefest Google to know that Angus Dalgleish is another headcase. He's absolutely adamant that the virus is man-made and came from China and was part of a secret group who spent two years targeting a science journal that didn't share his views. 'The group attempted to have Nature and its staff put under
surveillance and investigated by MI5, MI6, the CIA, Mossad, and Japanese
and Australian intelligence agencies. They met Cabinet minister Michael
Gove and later asked him to arrange phone taps and electronic
surveillance. One member of the group led intrusive investigations into
the intimate personal life and background circumstances of senior Nature staff the group suspected of “extreme Sinophile views”. When their campaign flopped and a Covid vaccine promoted by the group
failed to reach any form of clinical testing, the group arranged for
unfounded accusations against Nature magazines and staff to be published by the Daily Telegraph and
on other right wing news sites. They called themselves the “Covid
Hunters”. Their allegations against science reporting helped fuel an
explosion in “lab leak” claims on right-wing conspiracy sites.'
The group 'came up with a scheme to make money from promoting a vaccine idea from
Dalgleish and Norwegian colleague Birger Sørensen. Sørensen ran a small
Oslo pharma company, Immunor AS. Immunor had previously claimed to have
found “functional cures” for HIV, the cause of Aids. Sørensen and
Dalgleish – and later Prins – described holding stock or stock options
in Immunor.'
He's another grifter who has launched a disinformation campaign to enrich himself and you've managed to stumble into the arms of yet another dickhead who will quite happily watch the world collapse around him if he can find a tenner under the rubble. His issue with the vaccine is that it isn't his vaccine (the one that hasn't made it to any form of clinical testing) and so he's not getting any money. Please stop posting this shit; if you don't want to get the vaccine then crack on, but this garbage being posted here isn't doing anyone any favours.
The evidence keeps coming. For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
When reading posts by @PeanutsMolloy I'm getting distinct echoes of Queensland_Anonymous from various HoC topics. You can always, always, always find someone, somewhere to support your view on pretty much any subject.
What @PeanutsMolloy needs to consider however is whether you should give weight to the opinions of such outliers or whether you should trust, you know, the entire global medical profession. There have been, literally, billions of doses of the covid vaccines administered globally over the last 3 years or so. According to https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations there have been 13.5 billion doses administered to over 70% of the world's population. If even 1% of those caused serious problems we would have a global medical emergency on our hands that dwarfs anything we have ever seen, with roughly 2% of the world's population being taken out. Have we seen that, or anything even remotely approaching it? No. So maybe you should pipe down with your conspiracy theories.
For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with: Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
It takes the briefest Google to know that Angus Dalgleish is another headcase. He's absolutely adamant that the virus is man-made and came from China and was part of a secret group who spent two years targeting a science journal that didn't share his views. 'The group attempted to have Nature and its staff put under
surveillance and investigated by MI5, MI6, the CIA, Mossad, and Japanese
and Australian intelligence agencies. They met Cabinet minister Michael
Gove and later asked him to arrange phone taps and electronic
surveillance. One member of the group led intrusive investigations into
the intimate personal life and background circumstances of senior Nature staff the group suspected of “extreme Sinophile views”. When their campaign flopped and a Covid vaccine promoted by the group
failed to reach any form of clinical testing, the group arranged for
unfounded accusations against Nature magazines and staff to be published by the Daily Telegraph and
on other right wing news sites. They called themselves the “Covid
Hunters”. Their allegations against science reporting helped fuel an
explosion in “lab leak” claims on right-wing conspiracy sites.'
The group 'came up with a scheme to make money from promoting a vaccine idea from
Dalgleish and Norwegian colleague Birger Sørensen. Sørensen ran a small
Oslo pharma company, Immunor AS. Immunor had previously claimed to have
found “functional cures” for HIV, the cause of Aids. Sørensen and
Dalgleish – and later Prins – described holding stock or stock options
in Immunor.'
He's another grifter who has launched a disinformation campaign to enrich himself and you've managed to stumble into the arms of yet another dickhead who will quite happily watch the world collapse around him if he can find a tenner under the rubble. His issue with the vaccine is that it isn't his vaccine (the one that hasn't made it to any form of clinical testing) and so he's not getting any money. Please stop posting this shit; if you don't want to get the vaccine then crack on, but this garbage being posted here isn't doing anyone any favours.
Well indeed. I loved this bit in my search. It comes from a Professor Kristian Andersen at the department of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research, a medical research facility in California. Andersen said on Sky News that Sørensen’s and Dalgleish’s work was “complete nonsense, unintelligible, and not even remotely scientific...".
(It seems in terms of catty comments to fellow professionals, the science community could teach actors a thing or two.)
@cafcfan fixed the quoting for you. There's all sorts of weirdness going on in the formatting markup in the posts you've quoted, and you must've accidentally deleted something which caused the posting software to insert an end quote tag after your bit.
Just met a chap at shoulder injury class whose injury was caused by a flu jab. Mine was from a covid jab as previously mentioned. I'm not seeking to put anyone off but do think it's always worth a mention to the nurse/ doc/ casual worker doing the jab to make sure they hit the right spot- which is a specific small triangular zone in the upper arm, and no-where else!
Certainly very sorry to hear about your injury but trust me you shouldn’t need to remind anyone giving a vaccination where they should be putting the needle. All vaccinators are registered nurses or other registered paramedical staff qualified to give IM injections.
I have a horrible feeling that Peanuts posts his anti-vax stuff here but won’t read any of the replies that point out where they are wrong. He probably thinks we’re all part of the great vaccination conspiracy, along with the 1.4m who work for the NHS.
Just met a chap at shoulder injury class whose injury was caused by a flu jab. Mine was from a covid jab as previously mentioned. I'm not seeking to put anyone off but do think it's always worth a mention to the nurse/ doc/ casual worker doing the jab to make sure they hit the right spot- which is a specific small triangular zone in the upper arm, and no-where else!
Certainly very sorry to hear about your injury but trust me you shouldn’t need to remind anyone giving a vaccination where they should be putting the needle. All vaccinators are registered nurses or other registered paramedical staff qualified to give IM injections.
Thanks @ShootersHillGuru. I certainly wish I had the power of foresight to ask the injector to slow down and get it right. This was December 2021, when mass vaccinations were underway and I recall staff were recruited and trained at short notice. The pain has been constant but flared up with the cold snap earlier this year and became unbearable. Wasn't seriously suggesting the person wasn't qualified but maybe didn't have sufficient experience or was tired on the day .. I certainly could have had a better outcome.
The protection from the coronavirus vaccines doesn’t last forever in your body, so it is important to get your booster vaccine to help keep you safe for longer.
Had my booster this morning, very efficient at the surgery in and out pretty quick. I'll keep on having them as long as I'm asked to. Got family that work in schools so it's best for me to keep myself safe.
Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.
Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.
Is that what people used to call "herd immunity"? is that the new language now? when and why did that change?
Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.
Maybe you're not someone that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy and that you're invulnerable; maybe you're someone who thinks why would I take a 'vaccine' whose scientists were blasé when it came to clinical trialling, was never tested to establish whether it prevented transmission and was proven not to as well as failing to prevent contagion whose scant protection began to fail after a matter of two months, and the claim which stated it had saved 'millions' of lives was not based on any data or stats, but the wishful thinking of spurious 'modelling'. Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%. But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...
Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.
Maybe you're not someone that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy and that you're invulnerable; maybe you're someone who thinks why would I take a 'vaccine' whose scientists were blasé when it came to clinical trialling, was never tested to establish whether it prevented transmission and was proven not to as well as failing to prevent contagion whose scant protection began to fail after a matter of two months, and the claim which stated it had saved 'millions' of lives was not based on any data or stats, but the wishful thinking of spurious 'modelling'. Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%. But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...
Try telling that to the millions who are living with Long Covid and the families and friends of all those who died of Covid.
reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%
Assuming the percentage figure is correct, 0.2% is an extremely large number of reasonably healthy people. Surviving should not be taken as a return to normal. Also what of the over 70's? Everyone is is going to die at some point but that ever increasing large group of people in the world has to be looked after and protected just the same as younger people with underlying issues or without.
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For those interested in why the “booster” is both unnecessary and potentially damaging to the immune system of recipients, I recommend you listen to this interview with:
Professor Angus Dalgleish (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists, consultant Oncologist and a Professor of Oncology at St George's University London)
He is co-founder and Research Director of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours.
He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.
What @PeanutsMolloy needs to consider however is whether you should give weight to the opinions of such outliers or whether you should trust, you know, the entire global medical profession. There have been, literally, billions of doses of the covid vaccines administered globally over the last 3 years or so. According to https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations there have been 13.5 billion doses administered to over 70% of the world's population. If even 1% of those caused serious problems we would have a global medical emergency on our hands that dwarfs anything we have ever seen, with roughly 2% of the world's population being taken out. Have we seen that, or anything even remotely approaching it? No. So maybe you should pipe down with your conspiracy theories.
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So, I'm going to curl up later on with my copy of Lord of the Rings. I'd struggle to find anything that involves more reading.
I can't begin to imagine how much improvement I'll have in my joints by the time Sam and Frodo get to Mount Doom...
Impressive
(It seems in terms of catty comments to fellow professionals, the science community could teach actors a thing or two.)
Flu jab was 3 weeks ago.
I'm off to Egypt on Monday so happy to have had both before I go.
Krishnamurti
I've only had the flu jab once and got terrible flu that same year.
I'm hesitating on the Covid, not specifically against but having had 4, do I really need another one, not sure?
Why is a booster vaccine important?
The protection from the coronavirus vaccines doesn’t last forever in your body, so it is important to get your booster vaccine to help keep you safe for longer.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-easy-read-resources/easy-read-guide-to-the-covid-19-booster-vaccination#Why%20Is%20A%20Booster%20Vaccine%20Important?
I kinda like it though because it is more poetic
Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%.
But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...
Assuming the percentage figure is correct, 0.2% is an extremely large number of reasonably healthy people. Surviving should not be taken as a return to normal.
Also what of the over 70's? Everyone is is going to die at some point but that ever increasing large group of people in the world has to be looked after and protected just the same as younger people with underlying issues or without.