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Omar Bogle - gone to Newport (p31)
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I agree. That's a good reason why the free agents need to be in as soon as possible, especially those (like Maddison and Bogle) who hadn't played since March and will need an intensive pre season programme of their ownOggy Red said:I know we're shopping at Lidls ........ but we've already signed some players with decent pedigree, even if they were free agents.
If they are keen and good enough, hungry to get their career back on track - that's fine.
What worries me, is none of this current Sandgaard era batch of signings has done any kind of proper intense pre-season.
How far behind is their fitness (and consequently liable to injury) - and how long before they are consistently able to make a meaningful contribution to a match?3 -
That sort of objectification and sexism has no place on Charlton lifeKBslittlesis said:
I’m sorry but what with him, Washington & Gunter, it’s just as well I can’t get to the Valley.Callumcafc said:
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Because people just like to be negative, gets on my tits..AndyG said:I dont get that there is alot of negativity at the moment. We are trying to build a team to get out of league 1. Were not going to be signing top players for obvious reasons at the moment. If the management feel he can add to the team that can win promotion this year then why would you need more than a 1 year contract. Get promoted then you strengthen again for championship. Welcome to Omar from me hopefully you can do a job this season
In the meantime, welcome Omar! Looking forward to him cracking on!5 -
Maddison posted a few hours ago, that he'd been put through a really hard session at Sparrows Lane today.killerandflash said:
I agree. That's a good reason why the free agents need to be in as soon as possible, especially those (like Maddison and Bogle) who hadn't played since March and will need an intensive pre season programme of their ownOggy Red said:I know we're shopping at Lidls ........ but we've already signed some players with decent pedigree, even if they were free agents.
If they are keen and good enough, hungry to get their career back on track - that's fine.
What worries me, is none of this current Sandgaard era batch of signings has done any kind of proper intense pre-season.
How far behind is their fitness (and consequently liable to injury) - and how long before they are consistently able to make a meaningful contribution to a match?
And was very positive about it.
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I don't know, I think we still would have been restrained compared to what teams in our financial position would have done. When we were seemingly loaded in 2011/12 we still sought out bargains, cast-offs and free transfers alongside some paid transfers. The key was finding the right players, and we did that. I just don't think it's in the make-up of the better Charlton managers to throw money around, they know that getting out of this league requires the right personalities as much as talent.killerandflash said:
I'm not sure that applies to us in L1 though. Even under Roland we were considered a big fish by the other sides. If the takeover had happened in July rather than September I imagine we would have been splashing the cashGarrymanilow said:
As did Curbs and Powell. That's who Charlton have always been; we don't necessarily have the money to compete for the biggest players, but we take the players right for us and make a team greater than the sum of its parts. It's one of the most enjoyable parts of being a Charlton fanbobmunro said:charlton_hero said:The constant negativity is boring. Get behind the lad, he might do alright.This.As my youngest has just told me - Bowyer loves right-offs with talent, it shows what a good manager he is if he turns it around.Welcome, Omar and show us the early promise is back.
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Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.3 -
Oggy Red said:
Maddison posted a few hours ago, that he'd been put through a really hard session at Sparrows Lane today.killerandflash said:
I agree. That's a good reason why the free agents need to be in as soon as possible, especially those (like Maddison and Bogle) who hadn't played since March and will need an intensive pre season programme of their ownOggy Red said:I know we're shopping at Lidls ........ but we've already signed some players with decent pedigree, even if they were free agents.
If they are keen and good enough, hungry to get their career back on track - that's fine.
What worries me, is none of this current Sandgaard era batch of signings has done any kind of proper intense pre-season.
How far behind is their fitness (and consequently liable to injury) - and how long before they are consistently able to make a meaningful contribution to a match?
And was very positive about it.
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I think he’ll do well. Needs to be given a chance. It’s boring listening to some of the bellends on here writing him off already . Get behind him and the team.
if Bowyer and Gallen like him, then that’s good enough for me.8 -
This. Always good to see us competing without ‘names’. Makes everyone think we’re punching but in reality it’s just a well balanced teamGarrymanilow said:
As did Curbs and Powell. That's who Charlton have always been; we don't necessarily have the money to compete for the biggest players, but we take the players right for us and make a team greater than the sum of its parts. It's one of the most enjoyable parts of being a Charlton fanbobmunro said:charlton_hero said:The constant negativity is boring. Get behind the lad, he might do alright.This.As my youngest has just told me - Bowyer loves right-offs with talent, it shows what a good manager he is if he turns it around.Welcome, Omar and show us the early promise is back.0 - Sponsored links:
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Correct me if I’m wrong Oztumer has scored 15 goals with a crap Walsall side at this level.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.
Two seasons in a row.
Purely based on proven records at league one level - all of those estimates have logic behind them7 -
Thankfully he seems to be the sort of player you don't have to wrap in cotton wool when trying to get fit and sharp. Unlike say Chuks...Oggy Red said:
Maddison posted a few hours ago, that he'd been put through a really hard session at Sparrows Lane today.killerandflash said:
I agree. That's a good reason why the free agents need to be in as soon as possible, especially those (like Maddison and Bogle) who hadn't played since March and will need an intensive pre season programme of their ownOggy Red said:I know we're shopping at Lidls ........ but we've already signed some players with decent pedigree, even if they were free agents.
If they are keen and good enough, hungry to get their career back on track - that's fine.
What worries me, is none of this current Sandgaard era batch of signings has done any kind of proper intense pre-season.
How far behind is their fitness (and consequently liable to injury) - and how long before they are consistently able to make a meaningful contribution to a match?
And was very positive about it.0 -
Welcome Bogle.
Think he'll do a good job for us.
He'll score goals but he do a bit more.
I think Washington is being ignored here a bit and unfairly so. He's already got a couple and will thrive alongside Bogle and Maddison.
And yes another, fast, mobile striker, probably a young premier league loanee, needed to give us options but we still have time to make that deal.12 -
Oztumer’s goal record for Walsall was very good . In league one too.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.3 -
Another signing I’m pleased with, I think he’ll get 15-20 goals at this level, Hope I’m proved right.4
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can someone confirm what the term “1year option” means ? Does this mean that either the club or the player can exercise the right to stay another year ?0
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Not aimed at you but if we are going on proven records then Bogle ain’t gonna score nowhere near enough goals to get us promoted.DamoNorthStand said:
Correct me if I’m wrong Oztumer has scored 15 goals with a crap Walsall side at this level.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.
Two seasons in a row.
Purely based on proven records at league one level - all of those estimates have logic behind them2 -
Judge him when he has played some games not before.7
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#won’t score ten goals in his Charlton career imowmcf123 said:
Oztumer’s goal record for Walsall was very good . In league one too.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.2 -
Good signing! Think Bowyer will improve him and hopefully him and Washington can form a good partnership. Expect a pacy smaller striker to come in now on loan I suspect.1
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There are very few goal scorers around these days.
The goals are shared around a bit more.
If Bogle can hold the ball up, bring the other striker and attacking midfielders in to the game, whilst adding height at set pieces at both ends, he will be doing a great job.
We didn't have anyone capable of doing that from start to finish.
If he can get 12-15 goals as well, he will be a success.
We'll have to wait and see.15 -
May be right but nonetheless he has far greater pedigree than BogleLargeAddick said:
#won’t score ten goals in his Charlton career imowmcf123 said:
Oztumer’s goal record for Walsall was very good . In league one too.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.0 -
We absolutely need another striker no doubt .LargeAddick said:
Not aimed at you but if we are going on proven records then Bogle ain’t gonna score nowhere near enough goals to get us promoted.DamoNorthStand said:
Correct me if I’m wrong Oztumer has scored 15 goals with a crap Walsall side at this level.LargeAddick said:
Sorry but Oztumer 10 goals? Spat my tea out at that one. If I had any left I’d spit it out at Bogle 10 goals.DamoNorthStand said:
We can play 4-4-2 and pair a 25 goal striker with a 10 goal strike partner.LargeAddick said:ok with this as long as we also get another forward who scores goals ....
or we can go 4-3-3 and have Maddison (15 goals), Bogle (10 goals), Oztumer (10 goals) and achieve the same? Maybe.
Two seasons in a row.
Purely based on proven records at league one level - all of those estimates have logic behind them
historically we have always looked at 4-4-2 with the two strikers (heavily weighted towards the main one) getting the bulk of the goals.
if we have a front 3, then maybe you have 3 x 10-15 goal players than one that gets 25.0 -
Welcome aboard, Omar. Think it is a good signing considering the restraints under which LB has to operate. Final bits of the jigsaw will be put in place over the coming week (another striker and a CB?) and then we can really judge. Feeling very optimistic.1
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Didn't jump out at me from that free signings list, was hoping for a fee paid forward and a half decent prem kid on loan. Probably a fitter option than Aneke for that 3rd spot assuming the loanee is of quality, but, saying that, Bogle does have the ability and hopefully Bows can get it back out of him.
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Hope to be proved wrong, but am so underwhelmed with this signing. Really hoping he is just back up3
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I’m not going to lie, this signing has not got me excited but we are crying out for a player like him and I can see that he will add value to the squad. He is an above average league 1 player but not championship quality, this might be why he was given a 1 year deal.
a quick player who can finish and I would be happy with the striking options as a unit.3 -
Ah at last the goals vid, I do like these.FishCostaFortune said:
Of course these videos can always been slightly misleading - but one thing you can see is he does seem to have a little bit about him. Can actually dribble the ball and is not just a static lump up top.Callumcafc said:
If only 20 goal a season strikers were two a penny, the problem then would be, we couldn't afford them.
The mind just Bogles, welcome Omar.
Give it your all and I’m sure you’ll do fine.
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https://youtu.be/Rq6iGpbXtkk