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Birmingham v Charlton | Post-match thread | 15/07/2020
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I would love to be able to say inexperienced naivety from Bowyer tonight, but this Groundhog Day effect of sitting back too early having taken a lead and arrogantly believing you’ve got enough to keep the opposition out Is beyond a sick joke. We have gifted Birmingham safety and put ourselves in the complete sh*t for no good reason, other than Bowyer deciding to take off anything creative and put on defensive players (less Aneke of course).If we could have taken you off at half time today Bow, we would have done it. You don’t seem to be able to learn either...!10
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Absolutely gutted.Would love to be positive but I can’t see us getting anything from Wigan & Leeds and I really doubt the other results will go our way. 4 minutes is how close we were to safety.4
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Utterly utterly predictable2
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I am usually a glass half full person but after tonight I can't see us staying up. If we can't beat poor sides like Reading and Birmingham, we have no chance against Wigan and Leeds. We are a very average team but the annoying thing is we could have saved ourselves. Defensive subs cost us tonight.
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Still in our hands with a game against Wigan , but we may just nab it if we can draw the final two4
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That’s been the worse one to take from all the lockdown games.We had Birmingham, they were beginning to make more and more needless fouls and trying to get in the heads of Aneke and Lockyer.You just feel that if one of Williams/McGeady/Doughty was still on the pitch, they could have kept the ball up the other end with some pace or winning useful free kicks.I understand that they all can’t play 90 minutes, but one of them must be fit enough to last a full game. And I don’t want the excuse “we need to make sure they have energy for next game etc”, if we’d won tonight we probably wouldn’t even need anything from next 2 games. Now we somehow have to get some points from Wigan and/or Leeds.5
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Love LB but his inexperience really showed tonight... His inability to learn what are good and bad subs is a appalling...
Those players didn't look tired... We had attacking options and then we just invited Brum forward...
Beating Wigan is a tall order....7 -
SDAddick said:Sometimes I really hate supporting this football club.
Two chances, including one tap in, to go 0-2 up. We draw 1-1.
Bonne's two goals both canceled out. His two misses from inside the six yard box might be what relegates us in the end.
Why slag off a young striker who has scored 10 goals in the championship?
It's not compulsory to make 5 changes every match. We invited Birmingham on and then don't have the outlet of Doughty to run at them. I have given Lee Bowyer 100% support since day 1 but really tough to work out what's was the rationale with the subs.
Can't see how we are getting another point this season.1 -
We started the season with a league 1 budget and guess where we:re going to end up. Hemed zero goals this season and the starting midfield zero goals this season - we have been poor all season let's face it - Gallagher prob a bigger miss than Taylor but how often have have we won by more than 1 goal this season?4
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That it all blame Bowyer...........Please its not that clear cut.
From the begining of this season Bowyer has been given nothing or very little to help him.
200,000 for Bonne THATS WHAT HE HAS BEEN GIVEN and afew quid to help a few loans.
He has had his back against the wall the whole season.
When Bowyer goes we will be moaning,
All week he has the players he does know best,but because we are in such a mess as a club its him that gets the blame.
NOT ON.
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Bowyer is quick to have a go at his younger players when they make a mistake.
Fair enough.
Now have a go at yourself for fucking up the substitutes again.4 -
I am very critical of Bowyer but doubt if we would have scored another and the players he took off were probably leggy.
Its more the defending I have a problem with. Weak.0 -
Nothing wrong with taking Williams off, it was taking Doughty off which was stranger, as it left us without a pacey outlet up top.0
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It could prove to be a good point, don't forget they missed a pen too. If Hull and Luton draw then the point could be priceless, either way pick ourselves up and go again, if win Saturday we are safe. Given our budget if someone had of said to me we will go into the Wigan game knowing we need a win to stay up I'd have taken it bother pre season and post lock down.3
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Gutting absolutely gutting, went too defensive to soon, missed 2 glorious chances to go 2 up; now we need to beat Wigan, hope Barnsley lose all their last 3 and Hull/Luton draw. SSN saying we should have won it, but that doesn't help. LB must now put out a full attacking side on Saturday we, must win it, and 50 points should see us safe. Not blaming Dills for anything the pen save was outstanding and that fantastic save in the second half kept us in it. Nuff said...goodnight.0
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Yes.killerandflash said:Brum had 24 shots, 7 on target. We had 7 shots, 3 on target
If you let an opposition have so many more attempts on goal than you, it's really hard to win
Unless you are Charlton. Our last match we had many more shots than our opponent and still could not score.🙈1 -
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We needed to throw everything at them tonight in the hope or knowledge that a win would've meant the results of our last two games would be irrelevant. Just feel sick after that3
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Is timidity a tactic? Bowyer needs to focus on his substitutions until the end of the season. This will have to go down as the most avoidable relegation in living memory. What a season on and off the pitch. Has really highlighted the dross that the game has become. Meanwhile, EFL fiddles as Rome burns.3
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That's now 8 goals conceded after the 90-minute mark and 8 points thrown away (including the additional 2 today).2
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Over the last few games, those below us have given us ample opportunities to get clear of them and we haven’t taken it.
Now Luton will be saying “we can do it” and they’ll start believing it now, especially after seeing how bad we have actually been. They’ll be up for it over the last two games, and unfortunately we won’t be.
i can see major changes in the playing squad for next season, and sadly I can’t see it being for the better0 -
we had a couple chances to time waste in their corner flag but instead we whipped in weak crosses, that resulted in us getting pushed back into our own end.
Would have been nice to see some corner time wasting or passing around the back instead of lumping the ball into the box with only minutes left in regulation.0 -
Since when is 24 young. He should be entering his primesoapboxsam said:SDAddick said:Sometimes I really hate supporting this football club.
Two chances, including one tap in, to go 0-2 up. We draw 1-1.
Bonne's two goals both canceled out. His two misses from inside the six yard box might be what relegates us in the end.
Why slag off a young striker who has scored 10 goals in the championship?
It's not compulsory to make 5 changes every match. We invited Birmingham on and then don't have the outlet of Doughty to run at them. I have given Lee Bowyer 100% support since day 1 but really tough to work out what's was the rationale with the subs.
Can't see how we are getting another point this season.0 -
So i have just done a quick look, we have conceded in the 80+ Minute in 8 GAMES when in a drawing or winning position, that is 10 points we have dropped. that is a fucking jokeCAFCDAZ said:ive genuinely lost count of how many games he has put defensive subs on and its cost us. I love bowyer but his subs for game management leaves us with alot to be desired. How many points we have lost in the last 10+ added time is a joke.Team Scored in Points Dropped L/D
Bristol City 90+ 1 lost
Millwall 90+ 1 lost
Hudderfield 90+ 1 lost
Hull 90+ 2 draw
Sheffield Wednesday 90+ 1 lost
Millwall 80+ 1 lost
Brentford 80+ 1 lost
birmingham 90+ 2 draw
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Hate to agree with this...JoshrewCAFC said:uNegative substitutions from Bowyer have cost us again. December home games ring a few bells?
This season is just about up there for one of the worst ever for me. Every time a smile starts to appear, something happens, normally in the 97th minute, to kick you in the nuts. Even the couple of comfortable good wins we’ve had I’ve managed to miss.I have absolutely no faith in this team or the general cautious approach (and I love you dearly Lee) for us to see this out without the assistance of others. If Luton win one of their last two games I think we’re done.2 -
Some of the comments on this thread are truly unbelievable. And none more so than this.golfaddick said:Bowyer ain't got a clue. Coaching badges are chuff.12 -
Another point in our quest for survival0
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The amount of points we’ve lost from similar positions this season... it’s not bad luck, just shocking game management.2
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Although this one is also "special"mid_life_crisis said:Without doubt, this lot are the biggest bunch of bottlers in the history of football.0
