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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • Bowyer in the programme notes: "Come the end of January, we will be stronger."
  • Has anyone got hold of a programme, could they explain to me what Bowyer said in the notes?
  • stronger = injured players back + new signings
    Fixed
  • stronger = injured players back
    Mr cynical.
  • edited January 2020
    stronger = injured players back
    Id be happy with that if they stay fit for the rest of the season

    Wouldnt be delighted but the players we've got are good enough to keep us up
  • edited January 2020
    ESPN says ManU want Jude Bellingham from Birmingham. Will pay £25M. Needless to say they would have all the money they need to get Maddison (or anyone else they want) after that.
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  • Grapevine posts at 6.50, less than an hour till kick off. How am I supposed to read and digest that?
    Are we supposed to print and eat his posts?
  • Grapevine posts at 6.50, less than an hour till kick off. How am I supposed to read and digest that?
    It's only a couple of hundred words, his dinner was ready so you'll be fine 😉.
  • Anyone spot our next signing in the crowd? I think Fulhams is sitting behind their dugout wearing a Danish beanie hat?
  • The argument there are 20 players at London clubs with no chance of "playing regularly" for their first teams this season who would get a game in our current team is probably valid but the January transfer has operated largely with the same disciplines for several years.

    Just what is our likely recruitment market? Take a look at the League Tables.

    In the Championship.
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Derby in 15th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation with Wigans' game in hand go up to Middlesboro in 17th

    In League 1
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Shrewsbury in 16th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation go up to Accrington in 17th

    The clubs in either scenario are not going to simply write their season off by releasing first team or even key squad players without a suitable replacement lined up (which creates a chain effect) or an over inflated price unless they have a major financial need, the club is operated by Roland Duchatelet and/or the player is out of contract in 6 months.

    Across the two divisions it leaves you with the choice of the Reading Squad.

    If you want to focus on the players with expiring contracts go look at the list of "Out of contract players 2020" on Transfermarkt in the Championship or League 1.

    It is not necessarily totally accurate but nor is it an over inspiring list or indeed a specific criteria on which you can judge availability. It lists Grant Hall at QPR for example who features regularly and is the team captain

    What churn there will be is because clubs and managers have injuries and/or like to freshen their squads but in virtually every scenario nobody is likely to pull the trigger until the end of the month, if for no other reason than protecting their own arse.

    Deadline day plays to such agenda by literally showing "it was the best deal I could get in the timeline".

    It is extremely frustrating because of our exceptional needs but the reality is you only get to spend the money once.

    Lets all hope it will play out to our advantage over the coming days. 
     

    We signed the likes of Williams and JFC (not quite London), even Page, from premier league clubs in league 1.  They were in the last year of thier contracts.  In those 3 there was a 6 month contract and more long term deals.  No one likes not playing, clubs help by paying them out, they put them selves in the shop window.  It's some times win win. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:

    The argument there are 20 players at London clubs with no chance of "playing regularly" for their first teams this season who would get a game in our current team is probably valid but the January transfer has operated largely with the same disciplines for several years.

    Just what is our likely recruitment market? Take a look at the League Tables.

    In the Championship.
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Derby in 15th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation with Wigans' game in hand go up to Middlesboro in 17th

    In League 1
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Shrewsbury in 16th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation go up to Accrington in 17th

    The clubs in either scenario are not going to simply write their season off by releasing first team or even key squad players without a suitable replacement lined up (which creates a chain effect) or an over inflated price unless they have a major financial need, the club is operated by Roland Duchatelet and/or the player is out of contract in 6 months.

    Across the two divisions it leaves you with the choice of the Reading Squad.

    If you want to focus on the players with expiring contracts go look at the list of "Out of contract players 2020" on Transfermarkt in the Championship or League 1.

    It is not necessarily totally accurate but nor is it an over inspiring list or indeed a specific criteria on which you can judge availability. It lists Grant Hall at QPR for example who features regularly and is the team captain

    What churn there will be is because clubs and managers have injuries and/or like to freshen their squads but in virtually every scenario nobody is likely to pull the trigger until the end of the month, if for no other reason than protecting their own arse.

    Deadline day plays to such agenda by literally showing "it was the best deal I could get in the timeline".

    It is extremely frustrating because of our exceptional needs but the reality is you only get to spend the money once.

    Lets all hope it will play out to our advantage over the coming days. 
     

    We signed the likes of Williams and JFC (not quite London), even Page, from premier league clubs in league 1.  They were in the last year of thier contracts.  In those 3 there was a 6 month contract and more long term deals.  No one likes not playing, clubs help by paying them out, they put them selves in the shop window.  It's some times win win. 
    Page was young though and had already been on loan to a club in the same league. Brighton were a champ club. 
  • Loves it here but not enough to stay.
  • Anyone catch a glimpse of the supposed player(s) in the West Stand this evening? :-)
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  • Anyone catch a glimpse of the supposed player(s) in the West Stand this evening? :-)
    I thought that was a joke? Funnily enough there’s normally a pic on Twitter of the central West but I’ve not seen one tonight.
  • Don't care about new players. Give Cullen and Taylor whatever it takes. Better the devilish player you know. 
    We still need at least 1 or 2 good players. 
  • Another decent striker or two please and a defender.
  • Definitely don’t need 2 strikers. 
  • Definitely don’t need 2 strikers. 
    Definitely do - once Hemed goes in the summer alongside what looks like Taylor. We have 1 senior striker in Bonne. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:

    The argument there are 20 players at London clubs with no chance of "playing regularly" for their first teams this season who would get a game in our current team is probably valid but the January transfer has operated largely with the same disciplines for several years.

    Just what is our likely recruitment market? Take a look at the League Tables.

    In the Championship.
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Derby in 15th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation with Wigans' game in hand go up to Middlesboro in 17th

    In League 1
    - clubs within 3 wins of the play offs go down Shrewsbury in 16th
    - clubs within 3 defeats of relegation go up to Accrington in 17th

    The clubs in either scenario are not going to simply write their season off by releasing first team or even key squad players without a suitable replacement lined up (which creates a chain effect) or an over inflated price unless they have a major financial need, the club is operated by Roland Duchatelet and/or the player is out of contract in 6 months.

    Across the two divisions it leaves you with the choice of the Reading Squad.

    If you want to focus on the players with expiring contracts go look at the list of "Out of contract players 2020" on Transfermarkt in the Championship or League 1.

    It is not necessarily totally accurate but nor is it an over inspiring list or indeed a specific criteria on which you can judge availability. It lists Grant Hall at QPR for example who features regularly and is the team captain

    What churn there will be is because clubs and managers have injuries and/or like to freshen their squads but in virtually every scenario nobody is likely to pull the trigger until the end of the month, if for no other reason than protecting their own arse.

    Deadline day plays to such agenda by literally showing "it was the best deal I could get in the timeline".

    It is extremely frustrating because of our exceptional needs but the reality is you only get to spend the money once.

    Lets all hope it will play out to our advantage over the coming days. 
     

    We signed the likes of Williams and JFC (not quite London), even Page, from premier league clubs in league 1.  They were in the last year of thier contracts.  In those 3 there was a 6 month contract and more long term deals.  No one likes not playing, clubs help by paying them out, they put them selves in the shop window.  It's some times win win. 
    Page was young though and had already been on loan to a club in the same league. Brighton were a champ club. 
    The point was there are players, probably many locally, that are 6 months away from being out of contract. 

    They have no future at thier current club (see all 3 examples) and would welcome the guarantee of a contract (JFC and Page) or the opportunity to play/put themselves in the shop window.  The former would only cost a small up front fee, as they would be released in the summer anyway, the later may even get paid out so we could compete in wages.

    Compare Maddison and Williams.
    Peterborough want a fee, he wants a signing on fee and good championship wages, I don't blame either of them.

    Palace on the other hand paid Williams up and allowed him to join us on a six month deal so he could play and put himself on the radar of other clubs. 

    Is that a reflection of circumstances or ability? 
  • J BLOCK said:
    Definitely don’t need 2 strikers. 
    Definitely do - once Hemed goes in the summer alongside what looks like Taylor. We have 1 senior striker in Bonne. 
    We can’t have a squad of 35 to cover the players going in the summer. I agree we will need to replace people like Cullen and Taylor in the summer but we don’t need 7 odd strikers now just because a couple won’t be here next season. 
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