Besides the poor performance, that has made me realise Rugby will never be on the same level as football in terms of entertainment.
If you were a neutral who decided to watch that game, you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. And it was a World Cup final! I can’t remember the last boring World Cup final for football. 2018 there were 6 goals, 2014 there was a late winner, 2010 there was a late winner, 2006 it went to penalties. I could carry on.
Well done to Springboks they deserved it. Its a pretty big deal for them aswell
I am glad I am not still out there in a way as they will be unbearable! I said before the tournament not to discount them and that they were bouncing back form a few poor years. Sadly I was right. But well deserved after today's performance and at least they scored some tries. I'd still like to lump one on de Klerk though!
Think a few people made the mistake of thinking we could match the Boks physically (me included). They absolutely destroyed our forwards and the panic set in from there. When the backs got the ball they were pretty awful. Youngs and Daly especially.
Boks aren't pretty but head and shoulders above us on the day.
Besides the poor performance, that has made me realise Rugby will never be on the same level as football in terms of entertainment.
If you were a neutral who decided to watch that game, you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. And it was a World Cup final! I can’t remember the last boring World Cup final for football. 2018 there were 6 goals, 2014 there was a late winner, 2010 there was a late winner, 2006 it went to penalties. I could carry on.
Football will always be the better sport
OK, I get it: you don't like rugby. But do "carry on" with your list. Fascinate us all with the highlights of the 1994 World Cup Final.
Or, better still, agree that sometimes a team brilliantly executing a defensive plan in a sport can result in a match that's less than pleasing to the eye of a non-fan.
Or, maybe tell the fans of the other three top-finishing countries and the hosts that "football will always be the better sport".
imagine if we’d lost like that to the Welsh , see it ain’t so bad
said to my boys
dont be greedy
Won the play offs last kick of game won the cricket World Cup miraculously Essex won t20 blast and the league
dont be greedy rugby matters the least .
personally , I was forced to play rugby (instead of football) at school and hated it with a passion and wanted us to lose in 2003 . My hatred has disappeared since my boys started playing it at school and are in to it , so I’ve got in to it a bit and was desperate for us to win , so I had a mare again !
The ebbs and flows of sport eh? From the most complete sporting performance I think I have ever seen by anybody other than T Woods in the 98 Masters, to a disorganised bunch of muppets in the space of seven days. As disappointing as it is extraordinary.
Takes a Scot to tell it how it is.
Pressure and expectation did for England in the end.
Not like Scotland will get to a World Cup Final so i suppose you have to get some enjoyment by watching England lose
Au contraire mon ami, although it pains me to say it, I have been supporting England throughout this tournament and take no pleasure from their defeat today. All the more disappointing due to the manner of it. My comments throughout this thread have simply been me calling things as I saw them.
Besides the poor performance, that has made me realise Rugby will never be on the same level as football in terms of entertainment.
If you were a neutral who decided to watch that game, you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. And it was a World Cup final! I can’t remember the last boring World Cup final for football. 2018 there were 6 goals, 2014 there was a late winner, 2010 there was a late winner, 2006 it went to penalties. I could carry on.
Football will always be the better sport
OK, I get it: you don't like rugby. But do "carry on" with your list. Fascinate us all with the highlights of the 1994 World Cup Final.
Or, better still, agree that sometimes a team brilliantly executing a defensive plan in a sport can result in a match that's less than pleasing to the eye of a non-fan.
Or, maybe tell the fans of the other three top-finishing countries and the hosts that "football will always be the better sport".
Maybe it's more to do with the fact that SA basically got 15 points and the game by "winning" 5 scrums.
Most spectators don't understand what's happening and even the commentators can't call it because they can't actually see what's happening! So we just have to accept what the referee sees from a few yards away.
No real problem with that but it doesn't make it the best thing to watch on TV on a wet Saturday morning!
Besides the poor performance, that has made me realise Rugby will never be on the same level as football in terms of entertainment.
If you were a neutral who decided to watch that game, you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. And it was a World Cup final! I can’t remember the last boring World Cup final for football. 2018 there were 6 goals, 2014 there was a late winner, 2010 there was a late winner, 2006 it went to penalties. I could carry on.
I had a nasty feeling this would happen, that game is what South Africa use to win and when they get it right they are hard to play against. Kicked absolutely everything and played for penalties which is completely fair enough but creates games like that which will have turned off all the casual watchers who will have gone down the pub this morning expecting a game like last week
We can be really really proud of what this England team have achieved, we have some phenomenal players showing signs of being genuine contenders playing in the English premier division and this experience is going to help rather than harm players like Slade, Farrell, Sinckler, May, Curry, Underhill assuming they don't get any really nasty injuries
I'm gutted especially after hiw well we played last week and especially for players like Farrell and Ford who were at the last world cup failure and who have embraced everything Eddie Jones has told them to do
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If you were a neutral who decided to watch that game, you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. And it was a World Cup final! I can’t remember the last boring World Cup final for football. 2018 there were 6 goals, 2014 there was a late winner, 2010 there was a late winner, 2006 it went to penalties. I could carry on.
Football will always be the better sport
Or, better still, agree that sometimes a team brilliantly executing a defensive plan in a sport can result in a match that's less than pleasing to the eye of a non-fan.
Or, maybe tell the fans of the other three top-finishing countries and the hosts that "football will always be the better sport".
said to my boys
dont be greedy
Won the play offs last kick of game
won the cricket World Cup miraculously
Essex won t20 blast and the league
dont be greedy rugby matters the least .
personally , I was forced to play rugby (instead of football) at school and hated it with a passion and wanted us to lose in 2003 .
My hatred has disappeared since my boys started playing it at school and are in to it , so I’ve got in to it a bit and was desperate for us to win , so I had a mare again !
But just think how awful it would have been if we played like that and had lost to Wales.
With that in mind, this really isn't that bad!
We lost that game in the scrum. The South African tries came when we were chasing the game in footballing parlance.
Most spectators don't understand what's happening and even the commentators can't call it because they can't actually see what's happening! So we just have to accept what the referee sees from a few yards away.
No real problem with that but it doesn't make it the best thing to watch on TV on a wet Saturday morning!
white countrymen and women.
Lovely to see.
1990 and 94 too, so that's 4 if the last 8.
What point are you making? Were there many black England fans or political leaders?
Gutting after last week, but SA were excellent and we were terrible, everything we did was executed poorly, everything.
No denying losing Sinclair was a huge blow but it happens, you have to be able to adapt.
Two positives:
1. It wasn’t against Wales
2. Unlike 2003, this team are not at their peak yet. And last week showed the potential.
We can be really really proud of what this England team have achieved, we have some phenomenal players showing signs of being genuine contenders playing in the English premier division and this experience is going to help rather than harm players like Slade, Farrell, Sinckler, May, Curry, Underhill assuming they don't get any really nasty injuries
I'm gutted especially after hiw well we played last week and especially for players like Farrell and Ford who were at the last world cup failure and who have embraced everything Eddie Jones has told them to do