I usually support the British teams come what may but I confess to being torn today. Japan have played some wonderful rugby and the Scots hate Britain anyway it would appear.
All banter aside, that was a phenomenal game of rugby. And the right result in all the circumstances. Good luck to Japan (with their Samoan’s, Aussies, South Africans etc). They have been a breath of fresh air and they could go further. Scotland not disgraced, just outplayed by a better team.
Very good game. in a way I'm glad scotland eventually got better in the second half, made it a real contest cos in the first half they looked a beaten side.
Not a rugby fan but that was really exciting. Last time I see the jocks at the World Cup in Japan they were cheering on Brazil knocking out England in 2002 , so bollox to the sweatys
Japan head coach Jamie Joseph: "You just look around and see how special a moment this is for the whole country. Before I talk about the footie, I really want to acknowledge the families that have lost people to the typhoon, that really motivated our team and we talked about it today. While we are celebrating, there will be a lot of people that aren’t.
"Tonight, my team went to another level. They gave everything they possibly could. That’s what it takes to win big Test matches.
"I think [the rugby world] have always respected Japanese rugby but the Japanese haven't always trusted themselves in tough moments. The last four Tests matches, they've got the belief to get across the line."
That Sir Ian McGeechan pissed me off. On the one hand he praised Japan but the prattled on to say World Rugby have to decide if they let Japan become a tier one team. No they don’t it’s not a club why is there tier one and tier 2 anyway it’s old fashioned and elitist. Certain teams are desperate to protect the old boys club as they are likely to lose the most if other teams are free to play whoever they like.
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
That Sir Ian McGeechan pissed me off. On the one hand he praised Japan but the prattled on to say World Rugby have to decide if they let Japan become a tier one team. No they don’t it’s not a club why is there tier one and tier 2 anyway it’s old fashioned and elitist. Certain teams are desperate to protect the old boys club as they are likely to lose the most if other teams are free to play whoever they like.
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
That Sir Ian McGeechan pissed me off. On the one hand he praised Japan but the prattled on to say World Rugby have to decide if they let Japan become a tier one team. No they don’t it’s not a club why is there tier one and tier 2 anyway it’s old fashioned and elitist. Certain teams are desperate to protect the old boys club as they are likely to lose the most if other teams are free to play whoever they like.
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
I agree with your point mate but I think you are doing Sir Iain a disservice. He was actually making the same point. The fact is that teams are not allowed to play who they like. The southern and Northern hemisphere leagues are of long and ancient standing. Rugby is a latecomer to many countries and some (Western Samoa, Romania etc) have fluttered briefly before sinking again. The whole dual purpose of the World Cup was to allow the two main leagues (4 then 5 Nations and the Australia/NZ/SA) to compete between each other and to allow developing nations a once in a while seat at the table. In the last 30 years only Italy have come close to making the step up and their contribution to the 5 nations other than a cracking weekend away has been fairly negligible. Given the distances involved, involving Japan or any other who look like making a fist of it, is tricky. It’s not an old boys club per se, it’s just difficult. Now though, the world is a smaller place and anything should be. possible. Given that fact, and the fact that Japan look better than at least three of the established “old boys” and clearly have the infrastructure, it should mean that including them is looked at seriously. That’s what he meant. Be clear though that ncluding them won’t be at the expense of anyone else. We’re not talking relegation here. To that extent, you have a point about the establishment.
That Sir Ian McGeechan pissed me off. On the one hand he praised Japan but the prattled on to say World Rugby have to decide if they let Japan become a tier one team. No they don’t it’s not a club why is there tier one and tier 2 anyway it’s old fashioned and elitist. Certain teams are desperate to protect the old boys club as they are likely to lose the most if other teams are free to play whoever they like.
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
I agree with your point mate but I think you are doing Sir Iain a disservice. He was actually making the same point. The fact is that teams are not allowed to play who they like. The southern and Northern hemisphere leagues are of long and ancient standing. Rugby is a latecomer to many countries and some (Western Samoa, Romania etc) have fluttered briefly before sinking again. The whole dual purpose of the World Cup was to allow the two main leagues (4 then 5 Nations and the Australia/NZ/SA) to compete between each other and to allow developing nations a once in a while seat at the table. In the last 30 years only Italy have come close to making the step up and their contribution to the 5 nations other than a cracking weekend away has been fairly negligible. Given the distances involved, involving Japan or any other who look like making a fist of it, is tricky. It’s not an old boys club per se, it’s just difficult. Now though, the world is a smaller place and anything should be. possible. Given that fact, and the fact that Japan look better than at least three of the established “old boys” and clearly have the infrastructure, it should mean that including them is looked at seriously. That’s what he meant. Be clear though that ncluding them won’t be at the expense of anyone else. We’re not talking relegation here. To that extent, you have a point about the establishment.
That Sir Ian McGeechan pissed me off. On the one hand he praised Japan but the prattled on to say World Rugby have to decide if they let Japan become a tier one team. No they don’t it’s not a club why is there tier one and tier 2 anyway it’s old fashioned and elitist. Certain teams are desperate to protect the old boys club as they are likely to lose the most if other teams are free to play whoever they like.
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
I agree with your point mate but I think you are doing Sir Iain a disservice. He was actually making the same point. The fact is that teams are not allowed to play who they like. The southern and Northern hemisphere leagues are of long and ancient standing. Rugby is a latecomer to many countries and some (Western Samoa, Romania etc) have fluttered briefly before sinking again. The whole dual purpose of the World Cup was to allow the two main leagues (4 then 5 Nations and the Australia/NZ/SA) to compete between each other and to allow developing nations a once in a while seat at the table. In the last 30 years only Italy have come close to making the step up and their contribution to the 5 nations other than a cracking weekend away has been fairly negligible. Given the distances involved, involving Japan or any other who look like making a fist of it, is tricky. It’s not an old boys club per se, it’s just difficult. Now though, the world is a smaller place and anything should be. possible. Given that fact, and the fact that Japan look better than at least three of the established “old boys” and clearly have the infrastructure, it should mean that including them is looked at seriously. That’s what he meant. Be clear though that ncluding them won’t be at the expense of anyone else. We’re not talking relegation here. To that extent, you have a point about the establishment.
Italy managed a draw against the back to back World Champions to be fair.
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スコットランドと性交I usually support the British teams come what may but I confess to being torn today. Japan have played some wonderful rugby and the Scots hate Britain anyway it would appear.
We've all been there before, when there's no bog roll. I've been known to use my socks, back in the day.
There was some lovely rugby today and they fully deserved it.
Last time I see the jocks at the World Cup in Japan they were cheering on Brazil knocking out England in 2002 , so bollox to the sweatys
Japan head coach Jamie Joseph: "You just look around and see how special a moment this is for the whole country. Before I talk about the footie, I really want to acknowledge the families that have lost people to the typhoon, that really motivated our team and we talked about it today. While we are celebrating, there will be a lot of people that aren’t.
"Tonight, my team went to another level. They gave everything they possibly could. That’s what it takes to win big Test matches.
"I think [the rugby world] have always respected Japanese rugby but the Japanese haven't always trusted themselves in tough moments. The last four Tests matches, they've got the belief to get across the line."
Quarters:
England v Australia
NZ v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v SA
Wales v SA
Tier one or not Japan deserve to be where they are, amazing performance.
Stopped them scoring too.