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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited April 2019
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
    why ?

    How about we forcibly remove funds from you to pay for other people less fortunate than you?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Does anyone know if all artefacts were saved, because if they were and it was only the building that was damaged, reckon the place needed a lot more work than first thought and the fire was staged to get the funds for a full repair by donation.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    .....or at least legitimise the French Government spending a few hundred €million on it, with the blessing of the majority of the French public. Mind control and all that
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    MrOneLung said:
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
    why ?

    How about we forcibly remove funds from you to pay for other people less fortunate than you?
    Got to be honest, I do think that people that rich should chuck me a few hundred thou 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    MrOneLung said:
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
    why ?

    How about we forcibly remove funds from you to pay for other people less fortunate than you?
    It's called tax. Many billionaires refuse to pay their fair share.
  • Certainly a good conspiracy theory if nothing else i_b_b_o_r_g

    Reminds me of one of the Sharpe novels by Bernard Cornwell where he purchases some goods to return to the UK; that warehouse burns down before the items can be collected yet there is a second warehouse down the road which sells the exact same stuff - Sharpe does some investigating and turns out the two owners are cousins and are scamming people (he knew because helped people do it back here in England when he was younger)...

    Now that was all fiction of course yet Cornwell does his research and imagine it was something that happened and probably still does in cases of fraud!!
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Was gonna write to Roman Abromovich a while ago and tell him about me time spent up the shop, me transplant and Brexit affecting me etc, and ask for €100k and he wouldn't hear a peep from me ever again, but thought I'd feel better suffering for few years longer and trying to live long enough to earn €100k meself.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Certainly a good conspiracy theory if nothing else i_b_b_o_r_g

    Reminds me of one of the Sharpe novels by Bernard Cornwell where he purchases some goods to return to the UK; that warehouse burns down before the items can be collected yet there is a second warehouse down the road which sells the exact same stuff - Sharpe does some investigating and turns out the two owners are cousins and are scamming people (he knew because helped people do it back here in England when he was younger)...

    Now that was all fiction of course yet Cornwell does his research and imagine it was something that happened and probably still does in cases of fraud!!
    If the timbers in that spire roof needed replacing anyway......
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
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  • Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
    Going to throw in Westminster Abbey and St. Paul's as part of the Brexit deal
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
    She's putting a crew together to reflect the combined grief of our nations via the medium of interpretive dance
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
    She's putting a crew together to reflect the combined grief of our nations via the medium of interpretive dance
    https://youtu.be/3XJdylAxTjw
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
    She's putting a crew together to reflect the combined grief of our nations via the medium of interpretive dance
    https://youtu.be/3XJdylAxTjw

    AND that is exactly why we MUST LEAVE!
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    so we've got France mourning a building that can be reperected with millions raised

    and London being brought to its knees by some celery botherers. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Has Teresa May said what the assistance that the UK will be? 
    Chris Grayling is going over to get a quote and Jeremy Corbyn said he would also offer support and is sending Dianne Abbott to help with procurement 
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Leave it as it is and give the money to the living who need it. It's just bricks and mortar (and, it turns out, a lot of wood)!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited April 2019
    MrOneLung said:
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
    why ?

    How about we forcibly remove funds from you to pay for other people less fortunate than you?


    This already happens.  it's called income tax and National insurance and council tax and VAT and prescription charges and opticians charges and dental charges.

    Next.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,377

  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Scoham said:

    Please explain to me how it wasn't due to the actions of a huge invisible metal protecting flying turtle that is attracted to large fires...
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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    so when it is Christianity/Catholicism it is okay to make jokes funny how when it is other religions it is a different set of rules. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Yes
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    so when it is Christianity/Catholicism it is okay to make jokes funny how when it is other religions it is a different set of rules. 
    They're all a load of bollocks.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    so when it is Christianity/Catholicism it is okay to make jokes funny how when it is other religions it is a different set of rules. 
    All religion is an abomination and its sole reason for being is to control the weak, and should be called out at every opportunity.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    edited April 2019
    But when I made a comment about wearing a burkha is ridiculous because we no longer live in medieval times ( a garment that is worn due to religion reasons ) I got flagged 5 times.....not intentionally starting an argument but just funny how it works on here. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    But when I made a comment about wearing a burkha is ridiculous because we no longer live in medieval times ( a garment that is worn due to religion reasons ) I got flagged 5 times.....not intentionally starting an argument but just funny how it works on here. 
    You do have a point I must admit. 
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    It's taken less than two days to go from "it's awful that an historic building is in ruins, I hope no-one is injured or killed" to "it's so unfair that I can't say unpleasant things about Muslims". 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    But when I made a comment about wearing a burkha is ridiculous because we no longer live in medieval times ( a garment that is worn due to religion reasons ) I got flagged 5 times.....not intentionally starting an argument but just funny how it works on here. 
    Unless the people who flagged you are the same people who made the jokes, you don't really have a point. palarsehater said:
    so we've got France mourning a building that can be reperected with millions raised

    and London being brought to its knees by some celery botherers. 
    I'm also not entirely sure what reperected means, but I assume you mean rebuilt, no, it can't. It will never be the same again.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    MrOneLung said:
    It was and is a massive part of the heritage of France and of Europe.  It symbolises the faith of millions and also the culture of the country, that's why people are so upset, it isn't about a building.

    However, absolutely right:  ordinary people suffer calamity with no recognition at all, or a few weasel words in the papers or on the news.  Billionaires should be having money forcibly removed to provide safe housing and other essential services, rather than being able to choose where they are going to "donate" their ill-gotten gains for maximum kudos.  In my opinion, obviously.
    why ?

    How about we forcibly remove funds from you to pay for other people less fortunate than you?


    This already happens.  it's called income tax and National insurance and council tax and VAT and prescription charges and opticians charges and dental charges.

    Next.
    So Billionaires are not subject to income tax, national insurance, council tax and VAT and prescription charges and opticians charges and dental charges then ?

    Next.
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