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  • Looks pretty dangerous to me ...





  • The 2nd half was the best football I’ve seen us play all season, players certainly put in a shift, keep up that intensity till the last kick of the season, and we will get promoted.
  • cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Over reaction of the week winner.
    Until he scored yesterday all we had was a fitter, improving Igor
    To be fair I can see where the OP is coming from

    Igor hasn't just shown his fitness these last two games but has also started to bully defences

    Grant on the other hand had a raw pace that is beyond anything that anyone has here at the club and must be horrible to play against in a League mostly dominated by defences with less technical ability
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  • cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
  • Having seen the replay it was a straight red for the keeper.
    They got lucky with that decision.
    I hope karma might operate and even things up somehow.
  • Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    When he’s on his game ? Presence. Ownership. He’s a centre stage goal scorer, not a member of the cast.
  • wmcf123 said:
    If the keeper comes charging out of his area, doesn’t get the ball and wipes out the player - it’s a red 
    As Bowyer said, an outfield player would have been sent off for a tackle like that
    100%. Watched it on Quest & couldn't believe how badly the gk caught him. I don't even think Igor had time to get a shot away.  

    I thought the challenge on Williams happened once the defender had got the ball, ie on his follow through, but Taylor's was def a pen. 
  • Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    He wants to play for Charlton......






    and no Premier League clubs have wanted to buy him!!
  • Not a lot more I can add, just to say that the Luton mates of CatJnr (ST + regular away) that we travelled back with thought we deserved the win.  From their view in the JS they thought when Lyle hit the bar he had his arm back pulling the defender's shirt down.  Obviously they were unhappy with the ref over the penalty but refused to comment on the keepers 'challenge' on Igor...

    As to @Redrobo - happy to help and I'll accept a drink off almost anyone...
  • Watching highlights back on Quest, Igor was involved in everything going forward, outstanding performance, as was many of the players, Cullen was quality in the first half.
  • edited April 14
    Great result and performance. Aribo however is way off where he was.
    I'd play Bielik in his place & then there is room for Fosu or Reeves. Bielik ran the 2nd half with his surging runs. 
  • Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    Igor still improving and at the right time too. Grant was good this season and his blistering pace caused problems But the old Igor when he first came here was IMO a better all round striker. If he can get back that level it’s he I’d rather have
  • Taxi_Lad said:
    Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    Igor still improving and at the right time too. Grant was good this season and his blistering pace caused problems But the old Igor when he first came here was IMO a better all round striker. If he can get back that level it’s he I’d rather have
    Him and Taylor on form would cause devastation to opposition defences. There was glimpses of it yesterday and that third goal is what happens when you have strikers playing off each other. It just works.
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  • Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    When he’s on his game ? Presence. Ownership. He’s a centre stage goal scorer, not a member of the cast.
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Scoham said:
    cafc_se7 said:
    This is neither knee-jerk nor bitter but the fit Igor we have back now is streets ahead of Karlan IMO! 

    These 2 have hit off just at the right time!
    Very much knee-jerk. Grant was regularly getting goals and assists, and was causing problems from deeper positions with his pace running at players.

    Get him in positions like he did yesterday and he’ll score and set up a few, but that’s harder to do with him not being as quick as Grant.

    What does Igor have to his game that Grant doesn’t?
    Igor still improving and at the right time too. Grant was good this season and his blistering pace caused problems But the old Igor when he first came here was IMO a better all round striker. If he can get back that level it’s he I’d rather have
    If he gets back to the level he was when we signed him nearly 5 years ago then I agree.

    Suggesting he’s back at that level now is a knee jerk reaction. He’s clearly not as quick as he was for one thing.

    I’m not saying he can’t do a good job for us, but Grant was on his way to getting 20+ goals and 10+ assists. Igor’s not yet shown that during a run of games. Hopefully he does though I still see Grant having the better career.
  • Redrobo said:
    I can’t believe that anyone does not think that the assault on Vetokele 1st half was not a straight red. He was clearly out of control which is a red card. It was reckless, which is a red card, he bought down the last player in a goal scoring opportunity, which is a red card.

    I thought we were the better side first half, but they scored a very good goal, Phillips saved a good shot, and they carved one just past the post.

    It was not one way traffic though. As said, they should have had a straight red on what was a good scoring opportunity. Taylor was fouled as he then hit the crossbar.

    Second half was just wow! Deffo penalty, but was surprised that the the ref spotted it. He had hold of Taylor and tripped him. Thought the Williams one was as well. A very good side were in full panick and lost a lot of control. They are still a good team, just not as good as us when we are full strength.

    Hello, Hello, Igor is back, Igor is back!

    Fantastic from Igor today. Love the guy and so good to see him score today.

    Love Taylor. Not just the way he plays. It is the way he encourages and supports his team mates. Igor is back because of him, and the joy Taylor had in his goal was fantastic, and for his set up for his second. I think he is destined for greater things. Can see him being a politician of some sort. Natural leader and good man. 

    Great to meet CatAddict today as well. Thanks mate. Really appreciate it, hope to see you at Oxford. I will buy you a whole pint as well!
    It clearly wasnt a red card, using your "language". You used the term "reckless", which defines a caution in the Laws of the Game. The tackle by a player which the referee defines as "using excessive force" is a red card. If that same foul committed by the keeper yesterday was committed on say the halfway line, nobody would be shouting for a red card. Supporter emotion often comes into play when a half chance was thwarted by a foul such as that undertaken by the keeper yesterday.
  • The game has been summed up very well by previous posters.

    With hindsight, the non-red card (I believe it was one of the easier red cards for serious foul play you could see) actually added to the drama of the game. Having won, it's good to look back on beating an 11 man Luton rather than 10 men. It says plenty for the attitude of the players and the Charlton crowd who were fully behind the team.

    Went with a Luton mate and he had mentioned how good their full-backs were getting forward and there has been a lot of interest in the right-back, Stacey. I was very impressed with Mpanza...very strong and can play. They should still win the league comfortably.

    The hard part for us is trying to overtake 3 teams to get 2nd place. All 3 seem to have just enough form to keep us at bay but it's fun watching us have a go!
  • CAFCTrev said:
    To be fair I'd agree the penalty was soft and probably changed the game in the sense that it brought us level and put more pressure on the Luton defence to make those two mistakes

    The fact remains though that Williams should have had a penalty minutes earlier so evened itself up

    If anything; Sonny Bradley was an idiot to put himself in a position only moments after that decision when it would have been fresh in the referee's mind
    Not sure about the Williams penalty. Thought he was looking for the challenge and as he had been diving all over the place previously he had wound the referee up, so he wan't going to give him anything. I can also see why the keeper wasn't sent off; there were two Luton players goal-side of the incident. Mind you, at the time I couldn't understand how the keeper stayed on the pitch. OK, so Lyle's pen certainly changed the game but we had been getting closer to the equaliser. After that though, we simply played them off the pitch, they simply had no idea how to cope with us.
  • Now had the chance to reflect on yesterday’s match ... OUTSTANDING. The second half was as good as I’ve seen in years. Our midfield was untouchable and the Lyle / Igor partnership pulled them all over the place. Also liked the way Phillips just didn’t kick the dead balls straight upfield for their big Centre half’s to head it straight back. We played it from the back and forced them to push on which left gaps for Beilik, Williams and Cullen to exploit. Got tickets for Oxford and Gillingham but not Scunny or Rochdale. After yesterday, I’m erring towards breaking my boycott once or twice again. Really, really enjoyed the day for more than one reason 
  • Spanish said:

    Why is it all "high profile" games are policed so poorly. That paper thin segregation on Floyd Road is a waste of time. We must be the only club in the country where we do not hold opposing fans back when there is a conceived threat of trouble. The little scuffles that went off were totally avoidable but doubtless the police will have knicked a few soft targets.

    I knew there would be some aggro after the match, not helped with the crap timetable where there are no trains between 5:06 and 5:20 meaning a massive crowd waiting to get into the station. If we play the likes of Sunderland or Pompey in the playoffs, they will have to do something better.

    A good excuse for a quick pint in the River Ale house while waiting for the crowd to disperse though!
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