Won’t deny I am really disappointed With Taylor’s decision but like a number of others not really surprised.
He’s made up his mind and he has to live with that choice, I am sure he will and Should he change his mind And play for us even just for 3 games I will be shouting my support at the tv when he plays as I would with anyone lucky enough to wear the coveted Charlton shirt.
One of the main things that the Covid19 situation has highlighted about football is the total disrespect for the fans.
Football is for the fans? If that was the case they wouldn’t play until we can attend games but as they can keep the majority of the armchair fans and the TV companies happy that’s more important. A presenter on TalkSPORT said well most football fans watch the games on TV and don’t go to games anyway.
People can disagree with me but football fans go to games, people that Watch on TV Follow football. I haven’t really missed it over the last two months Which has surprised me but if and when the championship starts seeing us play at the Valley And not being Able To be there is going to be painful for myself and many other Valiant fans.
We need to get behind the who ever plays for us over the last 9 games and hope they can salvage this season.
I’ve had this conversation loads of times except I’ve always said your supporters go to games and fans watch you on tv.
i agree with the principle of what you’re saying though
listen to Darren Gough talk about it, he said (and I quote) 'he's now got the chance to join a proper team'
pr*ck
Occasionally I've had the misfortune to listen to the Durham / Gough home time show on Talkshite. Basically it seems they invent some 'hot topics' which no one is actually talking about, then sensationalise these non-stories and take a few calls from some of the most inarticulate people imaginable. Great show lads.
Amazed he still has on his Twitter that he is a professional footballer with Charlton Athletic - perhaps he should change it to ‘professional footballer actively looking for a new club’
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.
Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?
There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.
Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.
It's not football that's broken - it's society!
Football IS different to most other businesses. It is unique. How often do you get 15,000 people turning up to watch you work?
Gough has always been a prize wanker disguised as a 'character'. Like some other people I could name. I mean, stop looking at me this is the Lyle Taylor thread
Won’t deny I am really disappointed With Taylor’s decision but like a number of others not really surprised.
He’s made up his mind and he has to live with that choice, I am sure he will and Should he change his mind And play for us even just for 3 games I will be shouting my support at the tv when he plays as I would with anyone lucky enough to wear the coveted Charlton shirt.
One of the main things that the Covid19 situation has highlighted about football is the total disrespect for the fans.
Football is for the fans? If that was the case they wouldn’t play until we can attend games but as they can keep the majority of the armchair fans and the TV companies happy that’s more important. A presenter on TalkSPORT said well most football fans watch the games on TV and don’t go to games anyway.
People can disagree with me but football fans go to games, people that Watch on TV Follow football. I haven’t really missed it over the last two months Which has surprised me but if and when the championship starts seeing us play at the Valley And not being Able To be there is going to be painful for myself and many other Valiant fans.
We need to get behind the who ever plays for us over the last 9 games and hope they can salvage this season.
I’ve had this conversation loads of times except I’ve always said your supporters go to games and fans watch you on tv.
i agree with the principle of what you’re saying though
Yes, I have as well, got various ‘fans’ I work with and I have seen their teams more than them. They always have an excuse for not going, mainly can’t get to Anfield/ Old Trafford/Emirates etc You Support your local team was my Grandad and Dads mantra, I have done so since I was four or five, I keep asking myself And my brother why did it have to be Charlton and Kent!
Amazed he still has on his Twitter that he is a professional footballer with Charlton Athletic - perhaps he should change it to ‘professional footballer actively looking for a new club’
I think 'unprofessional footballer with Charlton Athletic' would be more apt.
Surprised he hasn’t said anything yet either formally or through social media.
Probably because he's looking like a right melt... The press and pundits are joining in and his decision is looking like the stupidist decision ever! If I was a fan of his 'new club' I'd be a little uncertain about his integrity!
I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.
Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?
There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.
Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.
It's not football that's broken - it's society!
Absolutely agree with you, no one here would turn down a job that would secure their financial future ,for loyalty to their current employer let alone a basket case one,
No one here has said that Taylor should turn down a job that would secure his financial future, for loyalty to their current employer.
It does make his lauded Zoom interview where he was all ‘honest John’ about Southall, and bleeding heart for fans, look a little like a getting in first PR move, knowing he was going to sit out the last month of his deal.
Taylor is a clever man, he knows how much football & Charlton means to people. Many of which have lost love ones and have been hit extremely hard financially by Coronavirus. To not even try to help the club avoid relegation whilst under contract is disgustingly selfish. In any normal season he would not able to stop playing to get his big money move, you would think with all that has gone on he would do the honourable thing, see the job through and try and leave on a high..... clearly any decency has gone!
He's his own man as they say but he's getting a lot of negative press; think theere are articles in various media outlets
Doesn’t matter as he knows that’ll make little difference to many of the clubs interested in signing him.
Mccoist not impressed with his attitude; might take Rangers off the list. Maybe they won't want someone who will have that attitude with them sometime?
I just handed my notice at work, but Ive told them Im not going to work during my notice as I dont want to get sick or injured before I start my new job.
They still need to pay me though.
I'd like to thank you, you're a legend. Don't worry it's not you being a selfish prick, it's society.
Taylor's withdrawal of his labour ain't ever gonna sit well with us, despite the fact we'd none of us in our right mind jeopardise a life changing payday for any current or soon to be former employer. He's at least shown greater integrity than many might and made an honest, explicable decision. It would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up for training, doss about, take it easy and if selected not try a leg in matches. He'd get exactly the same heinous profane abuse from all the same heinous profane gobshites and keyboard onanists either way. He could feign a muscle injury, turn up to training, grimace and yelp on the physio's table and sit out the next month. I've got money on there being shirkers and lead-swingers making up the numbers at Sparrows Lane and training grounds across the league. Their gutless malfeasance will play out over the coming weeks. The working human is a proven greedy robot after all. The horse has bolted now but with the likelihood of extra subs, if LB and LT had their time again I think there's a version they coulda gone for. Thus: we're told "LT has a back/hamstring/groin thing that hasn't settled down, he deffo can't play 90 minutes but blah blah blah on the bench." 85th minute or later in a game where Charlton are within a goal of a point or all 3 near goal free-kick or better yet penalty, sub him on for his prowess - he's head'n'shoulders the best at both in the whole squad. The season pans out how it pans out, LT maybe sidefoots in a goal, and everybody goes away none the wiser. LT would still get the bullshit from the bully manbabies. Maybe his back is broad enough and his balls big enough to take the cowardly nonsense safe in the knowledge his salary from July onward will outstrip everything all those twats will earn in several lifetimes.
The analogies relating Taylor's situation to a regular job are fairly redundant IMO. Taylor is getting upwards of £200k a year to play football where-as most of us regular people are earning a fraction of that (good for you if you're earning that!) All he has to do is work for one more month and be handsomely rewarded for it...
I know what you mean. Make a controversial statement even if you don't believe it and argue with people. I can't listen to it because it is so contrived.
I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested.
It does make his lauded Zoom interview where he was all ‘honest John’ about Southall, and bleeding heart for fans, look a little like a getting in first PR move, knowing he was going to sit out the last month of his deal.
Particularly how he was giving it the big one about how professional he was to keep playing after transfer fell through. That hasn't aged well.
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
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i agree with the principle of what you’re saying though
Basically it seems they invent some 'hot topics' which no one is actually talking about, then sensationalise these non-stories and take a few calls from some of the most inarticulate people imaginable. Great show lads.
It is unique.
How often do you get 15,000 people turning up to watch you work?
You Support your local team was my Grandad and Dads mantra, I have done so since I was four or five, I keep asking myself And my brother why did it have to be Charlton and Kent!
I think 'unprofessional footballer with Charlton Athletic' would be more apt.
A Barnsley fan
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Don't worry it's not you being a selfish prick, it's society.
He's at least shown greater integrity than many might and made an honest, explicable decision. It would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up for training, doss about, take it easy and if selected not try a leg in matches. He'd get exactly the same heinous profane abuse from all the same heinous profane gobshites and keyboard onanists either way. He could feign a muscle injury, turn up to training, grimace and yelp on the physio's table and sit out the next month.
I've got money on there being shirkers and lead-swingers making up the numbers at Sparrows Lane and training grounds across the league. Their gutless malfeasance will play out over the coming weeks. The working human is a proven greedy robot after all.
The horse has bolted now but with the likelihood of extra subs, if LB and LT had their time again I think there's a version they coulda gone for. Thus: we're told "LT has a back/hamstring/groin thing that hasn't settled down, he deffo can't play 90 minutes but blah blah blah on the bench." 85th minute or later in a game where Charlton are within a goal of a point or all 3 near goal free-kick or better yet penalty, sub him on for his prowess - he's head'n'shoulders the best at both in the whole squad. The season pans out how it pans out, LT maybe sidefoots in a goal, and everybody goes away none the wiser. LT would still get the bullshit from the bully manbabies.
Maybe his back is broad enough and his balls big enough to take the cowardly nonsense safe in the knowledge his salary from July onward will outstrip everything all those twats will earn in several lifetimes.
I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested.
People responding on that post with club matters are bellends.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
"The 30-year-old has not trained with the club since last Tuesday and Bowyer admitted he twice failed in his efforts to change Taylor’s mind."