Halal meat in Asda

Arsenetatters

Usually get our shopping from ASDA delivered, but popped out for a paper this morning and the traffic by Brands Hatch was dire so I went to ASDA instead.

I've obviously not been inside the store for a while as I noticed a chilled counter with 'Halal food'. I was genuinely shocked to see it there. I know that some brands stun the animals before killing them, but they also had meat that doesn't pre-stun. What is the world coming to? This was fecking ASDA, not some back-street butcher.

JaShea99

1:12pm

buckshee

I take it this is the Swanley branch? I’m surprised that there’s the demand for it round that neck of the woods in all honesty

cafc999

Does it taste any different..??

Arsenetatters

buckshee said:

I take it this is the Swanley branch? I’m surprised that there’s the demand for it round that neck of the woods in all honesty

Yep the Swanley one. I guess I've missed it when shopping online. I've not searched the virtual shelves for Halal food before!

i_b_b_o_r_g

It ain't just Asda, I'm sure I heard a lot of food outlets, government departments and stores sell it as default meat now. Might be wrong on that though

BDL

Would you be moaning if it were Kosher?

Chizz

Did they insist you buy it? Or were you allowed to choose something else?

Arsenetatters

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

It ain't just Asda, I'm sure I heard a lot of food outlets, government departments and stores sell it as default meat now. Might be wrong on that though

I'm out of touch. Ignorance is bliss

i_b_b_o_r_g

Personally speaking, it ain't the fact that it's halal, it's the unethical dispatching of an animal, whether it's halal, kosher or just bad practice. All the years we've taken to educate producers and installing rules and regulations for the ethical treatment of domestic and wild animals, just for it to be overlooked because of religion.

ShootersHillGuru

Ah. Religion. Pretty much the cause of most heartache.

Arsenetatters

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Personally speaking, it ain't the fact that it's halal, it's the unethical dispatching of an animal, whether it's halal, kosher or just bad practice. All the years we've taken to educate producers and installing rules and regulations for the ethical treatment of domestic and wild animals, just for it to be overlooked because of religion.

Absolutely. I guess the Halal sign just shocked me.

palarsehater

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Edit this goes with any meat hats ridiculous religious bs were animals aren’t humanely slaughtered.

Chizz

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

palarsehater

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

i_b_b_o_r_g

It's a "personal choice" and an "expression of feminism" when one chooses to cover their head and face for religious cultural reasons, but I'm not sure how the slaughter of animals by methods in direct contravention to the law of the land can be explained away, but hang about, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to offer one....

Addickted

Been looking for some Halal pork chops for ages.

Thanks for the tip.

ShootersHillGuru

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

It's a "personal choice" and an "expression of feminism" when one chooses to cover their head and face for religious cultural reasons, but I'm not sure how the slaughter of animals in by methods in direct contravention to the law of the land can be explained away, but hang about, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to offer one....

Religion gives far too many free cards.

Chizz

palarsehater said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

So you're suggesting that a lot of non-muslim butchers are being replaced by Muslim butchers? OK.

As a matter of interest, does the religion of your butcher matter much to you?

i_b_b_o_r_g

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

So you're suggesting that a lot of non-muslim butchers are being replaced by Muslim butchers? OK.

As a matter of interest, does the religion of your butcher matter much to you?

It don't to me, as long as they do a nice bit of bacon and source ethically reared and slaughtered meat

queensland_addick

The halal slaughter process involves purging the body of blood as quickly as possible in order to make the meat taste better. This is achieved by slitting its throat whilst it is still fully conscious. But worse still, it's heart is made to beat faster by terrifying it. This is achieved by making it wait in line for its turn, watching the animals in front of it being dispatched. I used to eat it as my wife is Muslim, having researched more about it, I won't ever touch it again. Barbaric! It should be banned, but it won't be, too many "do gooders" , more concerned with religious rights, than the welfare of animals.

i_b_b_o_r_g

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

So you're suggesting that a lot of non-muslim butchers are being replaced by Muslim butchers? OK.

As a matter of interest, does the religion of your butcher matter much to you?

It don't to me, as long as they do a nice bit of bacon and source ethically reared and slaughtered meat

...saying that, I wouldn't use a Jedi butcher, ewok just don't appeal

CAFCsayer

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

So you're suggesting that a lot of non-muslim butchers are being replaced by Muslim butchers? OK.

As a matter of interest, does the religion of your butcher matter much to you?

It don't to me, as long as they do a nice bit of bacon and source ethically reared and slaughtered meat

...saying that, I wouldn't use a Jedi butcher, ewok just don't appeal

Hear its a bit Chewy.

Manicmania

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Chizz said:

palarsehater said:

Personally won’t eat it, as it puts a lot of British butchers out of business as the whole halal process only employs a certain religion and that’s wrong imo!

It’s also extremely cruel.

Halal meat puts a lot of British butchers out of business?

Can you explain that? How would the method of slaughter of an animal put a butcher out of business? What nationality of butcher is replacing the British butchers who are displaced?

Sure you have to be Muslim to slaughter the animal as you have to say a prayer before it’s slaughtered or it becomes haram ( non halal meat ).

Apologies the post should of read non-Muslim butchers.

Hope that clears things up

So you're suggesting that a lot of non-muslim butchers are being replaced by Muslim butchers? OK.

As a matter of interest, does the religion of your butcher matter much to you?

It don't to me, as long as they do a nice bit of bacon and source ethically reared and slaughtered meat

...saying that, I wouldn't use a Jedi butcher, ewok just don't appeal

"No, Luke, I am your butcher!"
"that's impossible!"
"search your feelings, you know it to be true"
"nnooooooo!!!!!!"

guinnessaddick

Must be getting old, remember when it was just @Mendonca In Asdas

Fumbluff

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good pork sausage at your side, kid.

Curb_It

God I wish I hadn’t read Queensland’s post.

Henry Irving

Didn't realise there were so many vegetarians on this forum.

Personally I'm happy to eat dead animals but each to their own.

Gillis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27324224

"UK Food Standards Agency figures from 2011 suggest 84% of cattle, 81% of sheep and 88% of chickens slaughtered for halal meat were stunned before they died.

Supermarkets selling halal products say they stun all animals before they are slaughtered. Tesco says the only difference between the halal meat it sells and other meat is that it was blessed as it was killed."

The article is from 2014, so may not reflect the current situation entirely, but I'd be surprised if things are wildly different now.

i_b_b_o_r_g

Henry Irving said:

Didn't realise there were so many vegetarians on this forum.

Personally I'm happy to eat dead animals but each to their own.

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charltonkeston

I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Whether the animal dies instantly or dies screaming in agony , it’s dead and died for you meat eaters for you to enjoy.
Is it a religious thing or something to ease your mind how the animal dies.