The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
I m not sure what point you are making. Do you believe that I am a Corbyn supporter?
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
He’s the ‘boss’ and is culpable.
But he won’t resign, unlike, for example, the Danske Bank CEO who honourably resigned for problems in its small Estonian branch.
"Even though I was personally cleared from a legal point of view, I hold the ultimate responsibility. There is no doubt that we as an organization have failed in this situation and did not live up to expectations.”
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
You are aware are you that what the Met Police say they're investigating is evidence of possible anti-semitism contained in a document compiled by the Labour Party?:
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
You are aware are you that what the Met Police say they're investigating is evidence of possible anti-semitism contained in a document compiled by the Labour Party?:
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
You are aware are you that what the Met Police say they're investigating is evidence of possible anti-semitism contained in a document compiled by the Labour Party?:
It certainly wasn't a typical Marr interview. At one point he nearly lost it "This is what you always do...". So we cannot accuse him of a complicit interview. But Banks likes people to lose it. This is how he operates.
They swerved any examination of Russian money. But that's presumably because the backroom team has focused only on the docs. Banks gave them in the last 48 hours, which are enough work. That is he trouble with using a format like Marr Show to "hold people to account".
Carole Cadwalladr on Twitter is contrasting that she was pre-recorded when she appeared on Today earlier in the week, whereas Banks was allowed to go on live. As a result he was able to smear her and Damian Collins, and had the temerity to suggest the Electoral Commission is full of "corrupt" ex-politicians. That is his game, and he was given free reign to play it.
Are we any closer to understanding where the money came from. I don't think so. Should we have expected to get answers from this interview? I don't think so either. That has been the point about this monumentally ill-judged decision.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
My view is that Banks avoided giving a straight answer to any questions, it reminded me of his appearance in front of the Parliamentary select committee. I agree that the interview gave Aaron Banks the wrong kind of platform and he used it to disdainfully dismiss points put to him without providing and credible evidence to support the veracity of his position.
To me, it came across as an interview of a man who is guilty, but we're still unclear as to what he's guilty of.
The £8m loan to Leave.eu either came from Rock Services, out of cash that business generated; or it came from Rock Services acting as a conduit for money from Rock Holdings; or it came from elsewhere.
If it's the first, then he's totally in the clear. So long as he can explain how Rock Services, as a shell company, can generate that cash. I don't think he can; the NCA can get to the bottom of this. If this is true, however, it opens up two more questions. Why did Banks tell Parliament that it came from another one of his companies (and therefore open himself up to the (imprisonable) charge of contempt of Parliament)? And why did the Electoral Commission say that the money came from an IoM company (ie Rock Holdings) and conclude that they cannot investigate it further?
If the money came from Rock Holdings, this opens up two further questions. When will Banks be charged? And what would his sentence be?
And if the money came from elsewhere, the NCA must find out what the source is and determine any further action required.
It's difficult at this stage to work out which of the three scenarios is least damaging to Banks.
The interview didn't throw up any answers at all. It was supposed to. And it was never going to.
What it did was to expose some of the scale of dissembling, obfuscation and untruths being promulgated about this story.
And if we think "taking back control" looks like this, then Brexit is going to be even more damaging than any of us have feared.
@stop shouting , 1. Cheers, no worries, I'm sure I come across as rude as much as anyone. 2. I've no desire to defend Corbyn, but I don't think you can stop media access to a party leader because there are people in their party under investigation. I'd be surprised if there's ever a moment in history when the major political parties didn't have a single member under investigation. 3. I (unsurprisingly) agree re vote review should Banks be found guilty. 4. Just as Banks is innocent until proven guilty, so is @PragueAddick. I expect he'll be on to defend himself (if he hasn't already), but I really don't think a public forum is the place to be casting aspertions about the legality, or not, of other Lifer's viewing habits.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
Deflection at its best. Getting more like politicians everyday on here. Discussion about Banks and we end up with more about Corbyn and @PragueAddick ‘s satellite dish 😕
Isn’t the problem that a lot of the overseas right to BBC shows have already been flogged off to a massive number of disparate channels and for the bbc to allow people overseas to access them would require the BBC to renegotiate all these contracts or pass back the money paid by that overseas person to watch the shows to the overseas broadcaster?
While this could be overcome, it would be on a country by country, broadcaster by broadcaster basis.
I mean who in their right minds would open up trade negotiations like that?
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
Believe me, as a supporter of the BBC and being out here since Sky Sports became popular, I've spent a lot of time on the possibilities. You cannot use the normal iPlayer abroad, regardless of whether you have a licence. When you do, it picks up that your IP address is abroad. You get around it by using a VPN (as discussed re iFollow). Similarly I can use iPlayer when I am in the UK, even though I don't pay the licence fee. I think your mate in Singapore was using a limited service which has now been discontinued (not surprising because it was limited). I do indeed use iPlayer with a VPN. Again, I am paying the VPN service, I'd rather pay the BBC. The BBC spends time and money trying to catch out the VPN providers. I'd rather they spent the money negotiating the rights issues, as @alwaysneil referred to.
You might also not know that the Government deliberately limited the commercial activities of BBC Worldwide because Murdoch complained it was too successful in Asia. That was bloody stupid. The more it makes flogging the rights to brilliant TV around the world, the less pressure is on the licence fee to provide for every service the domestic viewer expects. Global Britain????
iPlayer isn't perfect anyway, it relies on the internet connection and I much prefer 'catch-up' services on my digi-box.
When I said illicit, I was kind of having a laugh at my own expense, wish I hadn't bothered now :-)
Hopefully that's that clarified. You accept that I'm not a Corbyn supporter, I trust?
Is the Netflix/iPlayer issue not just that every broadcaster operating in the EU, including online, has to be properly registered within the EU?
There are (I believe) hundreds of international TV companies with offices based in the UK precisely because that allowed them access to the EU as a whole.
Netflix will definitely have a new EU operation in place by March.
Is the Netflix/iPlayer issue not just that every broadcaster operating in the EU, including online, has to be properly registered within the EU?
There are (I believe) hundreds of international TV companies with offices based in the UK precisely because that allowed them access to the EU as a whole.
Netflix will definitely have a new EU operation in place by March.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
Read it on tech advisor Chizz.
Did you? Great. I would be really interested to know what it says. Is "tech advisor" a website? If so, can you post a link?
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
Read it on tech advisor Chizz.
Did you? Great. I would be really interested to know what it says. Is "tech advisor" a website? If so, can you post a link?
It doesn't say what has been sold to you. What is under consideration are the current portability rules that govern content for UK subscribers and the impact of viewing availability post 29th March 2019.
In a nut shell, UK tourists may not be able to view their usual content when abroad.
No great loss as anyone going on holiday and wanting to watch Netflix probably should have stayed at home and saved themselves a few coins.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
Read it on tech advisor Chizz.
Did you? Great. I would be really interested to know what it says. Is "tech advisor" a website? If so, can you post a link?
Been driving for last five hours and expected to see this thread full of the Sunday Times “leak” that a Brexit deal has been reached and that the whole of the UK will for the time being remain in the Customs Union for a period unknown at this point. Downing Street commenting that it speculation but not denying it. ST reporting that the sources were from cabinet and will appease all sides of the Brexit spectrum of opinion.
The quisling cowards on BBC's Marr Show have been scooped by Open Democracy. And I am honoured to say that I know one of the two journalists who have produced this. I hosted Jenna when she came to Prague to talk to journalists and students about the global FOI website movement.
Reading that Banks has clearly lied to the parliamentary committee as well as uttterly disrespecting it. My constitutional law studies were decades ago but I do remember that parliament has the power to hold Banks in "contempt" and fine or even jail him in that event.
No idea when this last happened, but with the performance of high profile witnesses like Green, Banks and his lap dog Wigmore maybe parliament should start holding these people to account?
I would imagine that Damian Collins is readying to do exactly that, but how many other MPs have shown his courage and integrity on this matter? Have we heard from the front bench of HM Opposition on this matter? Have we ****!
I'm sitting here, a BBC supporter, debating whether to boycott Marr on the basis that watching it implies complicity. A sad day to even have that debate with myself. In the end since I'm an Illicit viewer anyway,who watches via a satellite dish that cannot add to ratings, I guess I will watch, in the name of being informed about that on which I pontificate...
Let me ask you this Prague, if Corbyn was on Marr today, would you be having the same moral debate with yourself in view of the police investigation into anti semitism in his party?
It's completely different because Corbyn isn't being investigated and nor is the Labour Party. It is individuals within the party that are being investigated.
Rubbish. Corbyn is the boss and clearly turns a blind eye to this hate crime within his party.
Sorry fella but what point are you trying to make?
Your original question comparing Corbyn to Banks doesn't stand up because Corbyn isn't under investigation. Cressida Dick has herself confirmed that neither Corbyn nor the Labour Party are under investigation, therefore my response to you is not 'rubbish' as you so thoughtfully put it.
Sorry stig didn’t mean to come across as rude. I just thought prague’s comments were a bit rich considering the moral dilemma arises from him illegally watching a tv service the rest of us have to pay for.
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
Oh. Is that what you mean? Nothing to do with Corbyn? OK so let's get some facts straight here.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
As I understand it from my mate that lives in Singapore, you can watch iPlayer if you are a uk licence payer. He still pays his uk licence so he can access it. Maybe this could be a way round it for you.
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
Ahh. Good. We've got back onto Brexit. Where has this been written?
Read it on tech advisor Chizz.
Did you? Great. I would be really interested to know what it says. Is "tech advisor" a website? If so, can you post a link?
Google’s a great tool fella.
If you have a link, it would be great if you could post it. Fella.
I'd take a customs union all day. Not that there's much point having this and not the rest of the EU, but that's not likely to be on offer again
Does that take us back to the Norway "we pay but we have no say" option then?
I think it does although the minutiae of the leaked deal are not yet clear. Seems to me that a “time limited “customs union” deal thereby solving the Irish border issue or at least kicking it down the road until the non existent technology might exist is what’s happening here.
It will be fascinating to see if it passes Labours six tests and perhaps more importantly ERG and the Moggy. It might just be enough to keep the DUP onside and enough to bully some of the wavering Tory backbenchers into voting with the government but will it be enough for the hardcore brexiteer faction ? I doubt it. I can see the vote in December in the HoC now being knife edge.
It would be a good development, but we need to know more about it! If it is something I would welcome, I can't see how Rees- Mogg and his chums would - can't see there being something to keep everybody happy. But if it is sensible it could be worthy of support.
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But he won’t resign, unlike, for example, the Danske Bank CEO who honourably resigned for problems in its small Estonian branch.
"Even though I was personally cleared from a legal point of view, I hold the ultimate responsibility. There is no doubt that we as an organization have failed in this situation and did not live up to expectations.”
Apologies if my rather mild observation risks legal action.
It certainly wasn't a typical Marr interview. At one point he nearly lost it "This is what you always do...". So we cannot accuse him of a complicit interview. But Banks likes people to lose it. This is how he operates.
They swerved any examination of Russian money. But that's presumably because the backroom team has focused only on the docs. Banks gave them in the last 48 hours, which are enough work. That is he trouble with using a format like Marr Show to "hold people to account".
Carole Cadwalladr on Twitter is contrasting that she was pre-recorded when she appeared on Today earlier in the week, whereas Banks was allowed to go on live. As a result he was able to smear her and Damian Collins, and had the temerity to suggest the Electoral Commission is full of "corrupt" ex-politicians. That is his game, and he was given free reign to play it.
Are we any closer to understanding where the money came from. I don't think so. Should we have expected to get answers from this interview? I don't think so either. That has been the point about this monumentally ill-judged decision.
Other views from those who watched?
For me I don’t agree with your comments about the comparison standing up. The police are investigation 45 incidents by Labour Party members of which Corbyn is the leader and has a list of anti semitism controversies as long as your arm.
Re Banks, the guy is innocent until proven guilty. He might be a spiv/smug/orrible bloke etc but all I’ve seen him do is out think remain. The Marr interview proved that these investigations should be left to the pros as Marr was woeful. If it does transpire that banks has done some illegal that affected the referendum result then I believe that the vote is invalid and needs to be reviewed. But the investigators better get a move on as they haven’t got much time left.
I agree that the interview gave Aaron Banks the wrong kind of platform and he used it to disdainfully dismiss points put to him without providing and credible evidence to support the veracity of his position.
The £8m loan to Leave.eu either came from Rock Services, out of cash that business generated; or it came from Rock Services acting as a conduit for money from Rock Holdings; or it came from elsewhere.
If it's the first, then he's totally in the clear. So long as he can explain how Rock Services, as a shell company, can generate that cash. I don't think he can; the NCA can get to the bottom of this. If this is true, however, it opens up two more questions. Why did Banks tell Parliament that it came from another one of his companies (and therefore open himself up to the (imprisonable) charge of contempt of Parliament)? And why did the Electoral Commission say that the money came from an IoM company (ie Rock Holdings) and conclude that they cannot investigate it further?
If the money came from Rock Holdings, this opens up two further questions. When will Banks be charged? And what would his sentence be?
And if the money came from elsewhere, the NCA must find out what the source is and determine any further action required.
It's difficult at this stage to work out which of the three scenarios is least damaging to Banks.
The interview didn't throw up any answers at all. It was supposed to. And it was never going to.
What it did was to expose some of the scale of dissembling, obfuscation and untruths being promulgated about this story.
And if we think "taking back control" looks like this, then Brexit is going to be even more damaging than any of us have feared.
1. Cheers, no worries, I'm sure I come across as rude as much as anyone.
2. I've no desire to defend Corbyn, but I don't think you can stop media access to a party leader because there are people in their party under investigation. I'd be surprised if there's ever a moment in history when the major political parties didn't have a single member under investigation.
3. I (unsurprisingly) agree re vote review should Banks be found guilty.
4. Just as Banks is innocent until proven guilty, so is @PragueAddick. I expect he'll be on to defend himself (if he hasn't already), but I really don't think a public forum is the place to be casting aspertions about the legality, or not, of other Lifer's viewing habits.
1. I am not breaking any law. If you believe I am, recite the law being broken
2. The satellite dish, it's installation and service, has cost me the equivalent of about 7 years of the licence fee. It is so big and obtrusive that for years many of my neighbours whispered that I must be a British spy. Seriously. Do you not think I wouldn't rather pay for a digital subscription and have a normal unobtrusive 80cm dish?
3. I have actually tried to ask the BBC why it doesn't offer a digital sub to the probably million plus overseas viewers. The answer is "rights issues" but they can be solved, with a will. They just haven't done their homework.
Any other false allegations you wish to make about me this morning? I'm in the mood to take them on...
While this could be overcome, it would be on a country by country, broadcaster by broadcaster basis.
I mean who in their right minds would open up trade negotiations like that?
I don’t wish to levy any accusations on you but you even said yourself you’re an illicit viewer of BBC. I am going to look into the legality of what you are doing are see what other advice I can give you.
Just a heads up, when we leave the EU, the EU have confirmed that brits won’t be able to watch iPlayer or Netflix in the EU as it will be a breach of copyright.
@stop shouting
Believe me, as a supporter of the BBC and being out here since Sky Sports became popular, I've spent a lot of time on the possibilities. You cannot use the normal iPlayer abroad, regardless of whether you have a licence. When you do, it picks up that your IP address is abroad. You get around it by using a VPN (as discussed re iFollow). Similarly I can use iPlayer when I am in the UK, even though I don't pay the licence fee. I think your mate in Singapore was using a limited service which has now been discontinued (not surprising because it was limited). I do indeed use iPlayer with a VPN. Again, I am paying the VPN service, I'd rather pay the BBC. The BBC spends time and money trying to catch out the VPN providers. I'd rather they spent the money negotiating the rights issues, as @alwaysneil referred to.
You might also not know that the Government deliberately limited the commercial activities of BBC Worldwide because Murdoch complained it was too successful in Asia. That was bloody stupid. The more it makes flogging the rights to brilliant TV around the world, the less pressure is on the licence fee to provide for every service the domestic viewer expects. Global Britain????
iPlayer isn't perfect anyway, it relies on the internet connection and I much prefer 'catch-up' services on my digi-box.
When I said illicit, I was kind of having a laugh at my own expense, wish I hadn't bothered now :-)
Hopefully that's that clarified. You accept that I'm not a Corbyn supporter, I trust?
There are (I believe) hundreds of international TV companies with offices based in the UK precisely because that allowed them access to the EU as a whole.
Netflix will definitely have a new EU operation in place by March.
In a nut shell, UK tourists may not be able to view their usual content when abroad.
No great loss as anyone going on holiday and wanting to watch Netflix probably should have stayed at home and saved themselves a few coins.
Opinions please.
It will be fascinating to see if it passes Labours six tests and perhaps more importantly ERG and the Moggy. It might just be enough to keep the DUP onside and enough to bully some of the wavering Tory backbenchers into voting with the government but will it be enough for the hardcore brexiteer faction ? I doubt it. I can see the vote in December in the HoC now being knife edge.