I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Yeah, you're absolutely right I should have swerved any discussion on the ability of Siemens to set up production and manufacture anything we need in Manchester. I should have just let the lunacy of the statement stand for itself. Apologies.
For the record, I have been to the Siemens site in Poole. They make traffic lights and stuff but I'm sure with a week or two retraining and a set of new spanners they could knock up a CT scanner in next to no time.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
Point is obvious...if you worked for a decent company had decent management like we have, your scanner lamp would be on a critical spares list so there would be no delay, your obsolescence team would have sourced a suitable replacement in the event of that company going bust...would'nt they?
Erlangen is a nice place lovely university town. 25 minutes train ride from Nuremburg. yes I have been there.
So have I many times.
As to your first point. Did I mention that it was the NHS I worked for. We barely had stocks of plasters let alone £25K x-ray tubes laying around in store cupboards and in any case. Why bother when you can get one delivered next day. Oh wait.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
Mind you, Siemens produce different products across Europe, it's the items manufactured in the EU27, such as the CT scanner and components that may be delayed in the UK, as, potentially, would the UK products in the EU27.
Take a little trip to Manchester and find out..
Are you are claiming that, because Siemens manufacturer something for your employer in this country, they will purchase buildings, gear up, relocate staff, expertise, etc. to replicate something that already exists in Germany? Something that presumably supplies the same specialist product across the EU at 24 hours notice. So either they run two production plants (and pass on the costs to their customers responsible for having to do so), or they relocate to the UK and make the rest of their customer base sweat on whether the part is going to be held up at the border.
No, if you read and not just jumped in they have a manufacturing plant in the north west that is capable of produce most things, like others I have assumed you have been there...(BTW I have several times). We can produce items in our facilities in the event of sister facilities going down...its called good planning.....As you are a product expert I would imagine you know what they are capable of producing.
I am sure our company would love Siemens to exist just to provide us with goods.
And you lot have been claiming for two years other manufacturers can switch production at the drop a hat from the UK to the EU...or is that rabbit pulled out of the hat when it suits....
This is your usual bollocks. Siemens manufacture everything from domestic appliances to locomotive trains you numpty. Do you really think we are stupid enough to believe that they manufacture all those parts in a plant in Manchester. Just so you can confirm your own stupidity, I have attached a link to a list of what Siemens actually make. Please think before you post. We are not as daft as you are.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Yeah, you're absolutely right I should have swerved any discussion on the ability of Siemens to set up production and manufacture anything we need in Manchester. I should have just let the lunacy of the statement stand for itself. Apologies.
For the record, I have been to the Siemens site in Poole. They make traffic lights and stuff but I'm sure with a week or two retraining and a set of new spanners they could knock up a CT scanner in next to no time.
:-)
Next time you go tell them to sort out the lights @ Fleetsbridge roundabout then!
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Yeah, you're absolutely right I should have swerved any discussion on the ability of Siemens to set up production and manufacture anything we need in Manchester. I should have just let the lunacy of the statement stand for itself. Apologies.
For the record, I have been to the Siemens site in Poole. They make traffic lights and stuff but I'm sure with a week or two retraining and a set of new spanners they could knock up a CT scanner in next to no time.
:-)
Next time you go tell them to sort out the lights @ Fleetsbridge roundabout then!
Definitely one of those junctions that works better when they're broken!
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
Point is obvious...if you worked for a decent company had decent management like we have, your scanner lamp would be on a critical spares list so there would be no delay, your obsolescence team would have sourced a suitable replacement in the event of that company going bust...would'nt they?
Erlangen is a nice place lovely university town. 25 minutes train ride from Nuremburg. yes I have been there.
So have I many times.
As to your first point. Did I mention that it was the NHS I worked for. We barely had stocks of plasters let alone £25K x-ray tubes laying around in store cupboards and in any case. Why bother when you can get one delivered next day. Oh wait.
They still have an Engineers don't they.....
'an engineers' my 2nd grade Chinese students wouldn't make a mistake like that.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
Siemens do manufacture medical equipment st Sudbury but not CT Scanners. The factory in Oxford is Siemens factory for the production of Magnets for use in MRI. The base in Llanberis also manufactures medical equipment but not scanners. Siemens produce a huge range of diagnostic and therapeutic equipment. It has production plants all over the world including the USA and Canada.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
Siemens do manufacture medical equipment st Sudbury but not CT Scanners. The factory in Oxford is Siemens factory for the production of Magnets for use in MRI. The base in Llanberis also manufactures medical equipment but not scanners. Siemens produce a huge range of diagnostic and therapeutic equipment. It has production plants all over the world including the USA and Canada.
Thanks. Wasn't sure of the extent of the manufacturing operations as there's limited info out there (that I can find).
This was one article I found that went into some detail around 'The Transforming Outcomes and Health Economics Through Imaging (TOHETI) programme' that was/is being undertaken at both Guys and St Thomas hospitals.
It mentions a lot stuff that, admittedly, goes over my head:
Not sure how much of a stretch it would be to switch the manufacturing of certain components of imaging equipment from one facility to the next, though.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
Whoever flagged me, can you drop me a little explanation as to why?
Not bothered if it stays. I'm just a bit befuddled as to what warranted it. Thanks.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
Well said but this doesn't fit in with their agenda....
So can someone explain the BUSINESS reason for this? Why does leaving the EU cause a problem for BMW? BMW makes cars here in South Carolina, so obviously being in the EU is not some disqualifying event, or they would not make cars in the US. So why is making them in England somehow a bad economic proposition for BMW, post-Brexit? Especially of the Pound is supposto drop as they keep predicting. Cheaper manufacturing in Britain would be more, not less, attractive, to a manufacturer. I cannot see the ECONOMIC logic.
There is also the small issue of us trading on WTO Third Country terms which will mean import tarriffs to the EU of say 30% - 40%. So we won't be exporting too many minis in 6 months time.
Tariffs on cars can be up to 10% not 40%. Perhaps the tariff on components will bump it up although the percentage is much less.
This is all based on wto rules, my understanding is that we can waive all tariffs for all markets to create a genuine free trade, although there would be no guarantee that the EU would reciprocate or indeed that it is necessarily a good thing.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
Point is obvious...if you worked for a decent company had decent management like we have, your scanner lamp would be on a critical spares list so there would be no delay, your obsolescence team would have sourced a suitable replacement in the event of that company going bust...would'nt they?
Erlangen is a nice place lovely university town. 25 minutes train ride from Nuremburg. yes I have been there.
So have I many times.
As to your first point. Did I mention that it was the NHS I worked for. We barely had stocks of plasters let alone £25K x-ray tubes laying around in store cupboards and in any case. Why bother when you can get one delivered next day. Oh wait.
They still have an Engineers don't they.....
'an engineers' my 2nd grade Chinese students wouldn't make a mistake like that.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
They're designed, assembled and sent to hospitals and laboratories worldwide from Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics facility in Sudbury.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
Siemens do manufacture medical equipment st Sudbury but not CT Scanners. The factory in Oxford is Siemens factory for the production of Magnets for use in MRI. The base in Llanberis also manufactures medical equipment but not scanners. Siemens produce a huge range of diagnostic and therapeutic equipment. It has production plants all over the world including the USA and Canada.
Thanks. Wasn't sure of the extent of the manufacturing operations as there's limited info out there (that I can find).
This was one article I found that went into some detail around 'The Transforming Outcomes and Health Economics Through Imaging (TOHETI) programme' that was/is being undertaken at both Guys and St Thomas hospitals.
It mentions a lot stuff that, admittedly, goes over my head:
Not sure how much of a stretch it would be to switch the manufacturing of certain components of imaging equipment from one facility to the next, though.
It would be very problematic. CT / MR and in fact all cutting edge medical equipment has a relatively short shelf life. The pace of change in Scanner technology is unbelievable. Sourcing a new scanner from one of the leading companies Siemens, Toshiba, GEC for example is cutthroat. A newly purchased scanner might work for 7 -8 years clinically but after five years it’s old technology and has problems interfacing adequately with newer generations of planning computers or other diagnostic equipment. It’s a reason why healthcare costs continue to rise. Nobody want their medical care done on old and less than the best equipment. The factories dedicated to individual modalities are very specialised. Eynsham in Oxford (Siemens) produces about 30% of all the magnets used through the world in Siemens MR. It not just about bolting these things together. Design, technology and production costs are massive. An engineer working for Siemens would probably have an engineering degree and a physics background. It is mega costly to knock these things out. Dispersing the expertise would not be viable. Just my expert view as chippy might say.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
Meanwhile I am on a train back from Berlin. As usual, a brilliant and educative visit. Kidded myself a bit re my language skills by buying a copy of Die Welt for the journey.
You would think, the way everyone in the UK Brexit camp goes on about standing up to the "bullying EU", that an enemy newspaper would be blasting out counter propaganda.
I got to page 6 before I reached a Brexit article. It is actually a fairly bewildered one about Farage,and how he has got a new bus.
Despite many people pointing out that 85% of the general electorate voted for Brexit if they voted Tory or Labour, we were told this was bollox by some of those who voted Labour.
It seems that you really didn't know what you voted for. I'm not going to claim that you were lied to though. Everybody was told the Labour Party respected the referendum, apart from Lammy etc of course.
Still not enough for me to vote Corbyn though, far from it.
Are you seriously suggesting that everyone who voted Labour at the last election were in favour of Brexit? I was told to check my tin foil helmet was secured properly last week. Perhaps you should check yours?
They voted for a party that supports Brexit, which was The point TT was trying to make.
A fair few people have said over and over again that The labour leadership is pro-Brexit, some people have continued to deny that, after today, there can be no doubt, surely?
That was not the point he was making. It is a simple statement of fact that people who voted Labour at the last election voted for a party that supported Brexit. The completely false inference he was making, and many Brexit politicians have tried the same thing since the election, is that everyone who voted Labour at the last election were in favour of Brexit. I know many people who voted Labour at the last election who are more passionate Remainers than I am. There is no question that the vast majority of Labour voters support staying in the EU. To say that 85% of people at the last election voted for parties that support Brexit therefore 85% of voters are in favour of Brexit is simply nonsense.
If you were a passionate remainer, and consider Brexit a big deal, why would you vote for a party that supports Brexit?
Because Theresa May went into the General Election wanting a mandate for her Brexit approach, and she didn't get it. In areas where Labour was the best hope of getting or keeping the Tories out, Remainers are likely to have held their noses and voted Labour despite the party's deliberate ambiguity on Brexit.
Meanwhile I am on a train back from Berlin. As usual, a brilliant and educative visit. Kidded myself a bit re my language skills by buying a copy of Die Welt for the journey.
You would think, the way everyone in the UK Brexit camp goes on about standing up to the "bullying EU", that an enemy newspaper would be blasting out counter propaganda.
I got to page 6 before I reached a Brexit article. It is actually a fairly bewildered one about Farage,and how he has got a new bus.
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
Train factory.... Keep with the small guys...
Cheers Chipster, I’ll take the advice.
BTW, I do enjoy your wind ups, breaks up the day nicely. Maybe you’re wasting your time as a plumbers mate.
Meanwhile I am on a train back from Berlin. As usual, a brilliant and educative visit. Kidded myself a bit re my language skills by buying a copy of Die Welt for the journey.
You would think, the way everyone in the UK Brexit camp goes on about standing up to the "bullying EU", that an enemy newspaper would be blasting out counter propaganda.
I got to page 6 before I reached a Brexit article. It is actually a fairly bewildered one about Farage,and how he has got a new bus.
Did you visit check point charlie.
Was there, indeed. Have done the museum there several years ago, this time visited a new 360 degree multimedia panorama of a day in the mid 80s next to the Wall. Recommended. Several other museums and exhibs too, while my wife was working.
We were struck by how everybody was quietly helping each other get along, on the streets, on the roads, on the trains. That doesn't happen in a society at breaking point...
Meanwhile can someone help me? Who is now the real voice of Labour? Is it still Corbyn? Or is it perhaps Keir Starmer? If the latter, then maybe my vote is in play. Just that, I understand he has won a vote which effectively contradicts McDonnell yesterday, but then I heard a union comrade with an accent I rcognised as "Polytechnic Soshulist" denouncing his motion.
Meanwhile I am on a train back from Berlin. As usual, a brilliant and educative visit. Kidded myself a bit re my language skills by buying a copy of Die Welt for the journey.
You would think, the way everyone in the UK Brexit camp goes on about standing up to the "bullying EU", that an enemy newspaper would be blasting out counter propaganda.
I got to page 6 before I reached a Brexit article. It is actually a fairly bewildered one about Farage,and how he has got a new bus.
Did you visit check point charlie.
Was there, indeed. Have done the museum there several years ago, this time visited a new 360 degree multimedia panorama of a day in the mid 80s next to the Wall. Recommended. Several other museums and exhibs too, while my wife was working.
We were struck by how everybody was quietly helping each other get along, on the streets, on the roads, on the trains. That doesn't happen in a society at breaking point...
Well done...great place and a big city... Zoo is superb... Sadly went in may 2015 at election time... Mrs wanted to watch the election results come in... Mmm there after...
I worked for the NHS and used to run a CT scanner. It was a Siemens scanner and obviously our engineers couldn’t hold anything other than a rudimentary stock of spare parts for when it broke down. Something like a tube blowing would cost £25k and would be ordered in from Siemens in Germany and would arrive for fitting next day. A scenario unlikely without a customs union agreement. This is just one small example of the “unseen” problems that this whole Brexit fuck up will cause. Multiplied across industry as a whole and it’s going to cost untold millions.
We have siemens building services systems in one of our major facilities, and just signed a £1.8million deal 6 months ago to replace the front end of those existing systems. Further to that we are currently concluding a deal for up to £10million to replace our fire systems in several linked major facilities.
The components for these systems are being manufactured, developed and tested at their HQ in Manchester which have world class facilities. This wont be a problem.
That’s jolly good but Siemens Medical is based in Erlangen just outside Nuremberg. What’s your point ?
His point is he 'knows' that the Siemens factory in Manchester can produce all Siemens other products from rail signal boxes to CT scanning equipment to office phones, because the facilities are world class (presumably at testing fire control/suppression systems). It's likely as not nonsense, and there are many other points he could have made to show that proper planning can avert potential supply issues caused by Brexit, but he chose this one, presumably because he was dismayed by the sensible discussions being held on this thread otherwise.
This is why people need to stop engaging with him.
Just trying to put another lot of fake news right...and you don't like it.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well. I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
You saying Siemens are not real...and yes they can duplicate we have had the same components made from another factory...They do that for obvious reasons....as do most large corporations.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment? Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
Train factory.... Keep with the small guys...
Cheers Chipster, I’ll take the advice.
BTW, I do enjoy your wind ups, breaks up the day nicely. Maybe you’re wasting your time as a plumbers mate.
Nice one...plumber... Nice trade but employ a real one...
Meanwhile can someone help me? Who is now the real voice of Labour? Is it still Corbyn? Or is it perhaps Keir Starmer? If the latter, then maybe my vote is in play. Just that, I understand he has won a vote which effectively contradicts McDonnell yesterday, but then I heard a union comrade with an accent I rcognised as "Polytechnic Soshulist" denouncing his motion.
Who's in charge of this lot?
I think they call it free speech. But basically, Corbyn has confirmed that what Starmer said was cleared by him.
Nobody is ruling out Remain as an option says Kier Starmer at Labour conference to a standing ovation. An overwhelming majority backed the motion. We will now see how this plays in the press and on social media followed by the Tory conference next week... and the next set of polls. In theory there is a 3-5% Labour bounce at stake?
Labour chose a policy debate at their conference to announce their support for a second referendum to enable the people to make a decision on real choices as opposed to unicorns and slogans on busses. This has ensured maximum coverage as well as requiring an immediate response from the Tories.
It is also clear that those who support this option need to keep up the pressure over the coming months for Labour have adopted it as an option within a range of possibilities. That would be the message coming from the likes of Chuka remoaners. That is how democracy works in the UK today.
Most importantly of all what will M.Barnier come back with next month - possibly whatever he suggests simply cannot be accepted by May. But can easily accomodated by Corbyn, Starmer and McDonnell? We are moving towards the end game but we are not there yet.
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You should have looked at Siemens UK.
Like you, (although some would doubt), a lot of other people on here use and know Siemens quite well.
I have a washing machine made by them, incidentally made and assembled in the EU but definitely not assembled in the UK. Manufactures like Siemens don't duplicate facilities in the western world with a just in case attitude.
I also use their software and control systems and I will be meeting with their staff tomorrow at TCT, Birmingham. Not very exotic but real.
So Siemens, Manchester train factory......... Medical equipment?
Its not obvious to me but I'm sure there be must common components in the train carriage. Apart from the Siemens labels please tell us what some others are. Please don't say screws and fasteners, scanners contain some unique fasteners.
It seems they specialise in specialist (No kidding!) diagnostic and pathology instrumentation. They have another site in Llanberis.
Maybe chips isn't as mental on this one as it first seemed.
This was one article I found that went into some detail around 'The Transforming Outcomes and Health Economics Through Imaging (TOHETI) programme' that was/is being undertaken at both Guys and St Thomas hospitals.
It mentions a lot stuff that, admittedly, goes over my head:
https://www.healthcare.siemens.ie/news/imaging-to-transform-outcomes-health-economics.html
Not sure how much of a stretch it would be to switch the manufacturing of certain components of imaging equipment from one facility to the next, though.
Not bothered if it stays. I'm just a bit befuddled as to what warranted it. Thanks.
Ignore.Don't ignore.
https://www.ictsd.org/opinion/nothing-simple-about-uk-regaining-wto-status-post-brexit
You would think, the way everyone in the UK Brexit camp goes on about standing up to the "bullying EU", that an enemy newspaper would be blasting out counter propaganda.
I got to page 6 before I reached a Brexit article. It is actually a fairly bewildered one about Farage,and how he has got a new bus.
BTW, I do enjoy your wind ups, breaks up the day nicely. Maybe you’re wasting your time as a plumbers mate.
We were struck by how everybody was quietly helping each other get along, on the streets, on the roads, on the trains. That doesn't happen in a society at breaking point...
Who's in charge of this lot?
Labour chose a policy debate at their conference to announce their support for a second referendum to enable the people to make a decision on real choices as opposed to unicorns and slogans on busses. This has ensured maximum coverage as well as requiring an immediate response from the Tories.
It is also clear that those who support this option need to keep up the pressure over the coming months for Labour have adopted it as an option within a range of possibilities. That would be the message coming from the likes of Chuka remoaners. That is how democracy works in the UK today.
Most importantly of all what will M.Barnier come back with next month - possibly whatever he suggests simply cannot be accepted by May. But can easily accomodated by Corbyn, Starmer and McDonnell? We are moving towards the end game but we are not there yet.