Great watching the debate in the House this afternoon......I seem to agree with everyone....even Anna Soubry ! Dominic Grieve should be given a medal....and I speak as a leave voter
I am watching too. Pretty compelling. I think the vote comes soon. Ken Clarke was great. Bill Cash and others tried to give it in broad brush strokes as in 'the people have spoken' but it seems unarguable that the HOC should be only a passive spectator in this historic process. The debate seems to be a clear win for Greive, but the Solicitor General is desperately trying to save the day by offering last minute private discussions.
Kate Hoey makes my skin crawl. Absolute odious despicable inarticulate bitch. How has she survived as a Labour MP for so long? Her constituency voted 77.6% to remain! Frank Field is not much better!
Kate Hoey makes my skin crawl. Absolute odious despicable inarticulate bitch. How has she survived as a Labour MP for so long? Her constituency voted 77.6% to remain! Frank Field is not much better!
Kate Hoey makes my skin crawl. Absolute odious despicable inarticulate bitch. How has she survived as a Labour MP for so long? Her constituency voted 77.6% to remain! Frank Field is not much better!
It took a fight, but we've not got the parliamentary sovereignty that the hard brexiters fought so hard to deny after claiming that's what they wanted throughout the referendum campaigning.
Now hopefully parliament will do it's job if the negotiated deal (or lack thereof) isn't good enough for the British people, rather than BoJo and Rees-Mogg forcing through a Brexit at any cost.
Sounds like the Gov't have bought off Tory rebels with a last minute concession on the Grieve amendment - but nobody has said what it is yet!
Sound like a fairly large concession from the Governmemt.
It may just be because I'm a cynic, but a lot depends on how HMG interpret "no deal".
Not that I would, for one minute, suggest that David Davis might seek to renege, or anything, but I can see him viewing the compromise employed today more as "no Brexit negotiations completed", so that walking away without agreement would not be considered "no deal".
Brexit means what she and the Remainer majority want it to mean-Remain under a slighhtly different hat.
The "remainer majority" that were voted into parliament by their constituents...
On pro Brexit manifestoes they are now reneging on.
That's their job!
If something is going to.damage the country they're not supposed to carry on regardless, they're supposed to act in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
Brexit means what she and the Remainer majority want it to mean-Remain under a slighhtly different hat.
The "remainer majority" that were voted into parliament by their constituents...
On pro Brexit manifestoes they are now reneging on.
That's their job!
If something is going to.damage the country they're not supposed to carry on regardless, they're supposed to act in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
I have been fearful of a hard Brexit as a business owner. A soft one I can live with, as long as it is genuinely soft. I'm happy it looks like it will be! It is still Brexit, its just a Brexit most of the population prefer, if we are going to have a Brexit which it looks like we will!
If this steers us away from the horror of a hard Brexit, then good. Forgive me for not celebrating too much though when I am about to give up rights and privileges just so some folk get their preferred shade of travel documents.
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Ken Clarke was great.
Bill Cash and others tried to give it in broad brush strokes as in 'the people have spoken' but it seems unarguable that the HOC should be only a passive spectator in this historic process.
The debate seems to be a clear win for Greive, but the Solicitor General is desperately trying to save the day by offering last minute private discussions.
Now hopefully parliament will do it's job if the negotiated deal (or lack thereof) isn't good enough for the British people, rather than BoJo and Rees-Mogg forcing through a Brexit at any cost.
Not that I would, for one minute, suggest that David Davis might seek to renege, or anything, but I can see him viewing the compromise employed today more as "no Brexit negotiations completed", so that walking away without agreement would not be considered "no deal".
Well played Grieve, Soubry et al. Big concession by the government but no defeat in the vote (assuming that happens of course!).
Look forward to the backlash from JRM and his mates.
The trouble is she doesn't mean what she says.
A very weak person.
If something is going to.damage the country they're not supposed to carry on regardless, they're supposed to act in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
Spineless.
one of the few Labour MPs with true principles!
May says she is going to get a good deal, don't you believe her?