''Farage will sort it, should of had him on board from the start.''
At last a sensible one line comment, far better than all the crap from Prague, Fiiish, NornIrish etc
*Union Jack flutters proudly as the Romanians are all herded into a lorry*
One of them did... Last april and left over a million pounds worth of damage on our plant.... Don't worry you paid for it to be fixed. Add that to the money list, how many more cases could be.
I'm still of the opinion Davis is seeking an escape route, having clearly realised the enormity and impossibility of the task before him.
Farage will sort it, should of had him on board from the start.
I think he’s already sorted his EU pension. I could be wrong.
Also your happy to pay barmys pension then... And of course the unelected commissioners... Oh i forgot i did vote for them when i voted for my north hampshire mep.
Just when you thought you couldn't make it up any more, after a year of banging on about no deal is better than a bad deal, a letter has been obtained by the FT in which Davis complains to May that those dastardly little green men in Brussels are - get this - making concrete plans for No Deal!!!. The slippery conniving wogs*!
Well let me tell you, Davis, you absolute platinum grade cretin, they are not little green men, but representatives of 500 million people, and i can tell you, as one of them, that I absolutely mandate and indeed expect them to plan in full for the consequences of No Deal.
Seriously how can you put your faith in people like Davis to negotiate, if they think they are negotiating with cardboard cut out caricatures, as opposed to with politicians who themselves have an electorate to answer to?
* For the avoidance of doubt about my use of that word. Davis and I are of an age when we remember the phrase "Wogs begin at Calais". I use it now to illustrate that Davis appears never to have stopped thinking that the phrase has some truth in it. It is of course nothing to do with skin colour, especially as all his opposite numbers are in fact green.
Blimey, he'll be apoplectic then when he finds out about the new 'Minister for No Deal'. I haven't heard a name yet, I hope it's. Noel Edmonds.
I strongly suspect that's the case. For the most part it will be business as usual... The question has always been whether, in the long term, business will be better or worse.
I cannot understand how these deluded fools, after all this time, still have an expectation of tariff free access to the single market and a deal that includes services!
Can i ever so politely point out to you that I did not write the tweet, so I don't take any responsibility for the ancilliary comments beyond the main point.
Yes, I can just about remember when every little trip to the Continent required all kinds of paperwork, not to mention careful calculation of the pitiful duty free allowance on the way back home.
It is of course not a huge problem on its own. However one of the serious issues around Brexit is that there are myriad things which are small on their own, which we have taken for granted as part of EU membership, and when they are all taken away at the same time, that is when it becomes a great big problem in total.
Can I respectfully point out that you posted a tweet that states ''No touring hols'' ''travel disruption'' both nonsense and the point of the pointless tweet.
So - this pains me to say - I disagree with his views but respect Farage. Unlike other politicians I don't think he was pushing for us to leave the EU as part of of a plan to further his political ambitions - leaving the EU was his ambition.
I haven't heard what he's said but I'm guessing he's disappointed that, with the latest news that we're looking for a deal on financial services we won't, in his eyes, really be leaving.
On the issue of trade, in some ways I agree with him. It seems we're aiming for is an agreement which gives us some benefits of the single market but the regulatory alignment we'd have to maintain in exchange for those minimal benefits will curtail our ability to do trade deals with non-EU nations.
If there will be another referendum then Vote Remain campaign need to do so much better than last time. All of what has happened and came out since article 50 should be proof that it's better to remain in. They can't balls it up again. Can they?
So - this pains me to say - I disagree with his views but respect Farage. Unlike other politicians I don't think he was pushing for us to leave the EU as part of of a plan to further his political ambitions - leaving the EU was his ambition.
I haven't heard what he's said but I'm guessing he's disappointed that, with the latest news that we're looking for a deal on financial services we won't, in his eyes, really be leaving.
On the issue of trade, in some ways I agree with him. It seems we're aiming for is an agreement which gives us some benefits of the single market but the regulatory alignment we'd have to maintain in exchange for those minimal benefits will curtail our ability to do trade deals with non-EU nations.
Apparently, it is his belief that another referendum is needed to ensure that leading pro-Remain/anti-hard Brexit people stop seeking a different outcome than that which he favours.
There is the slight problem that his position assumes that a) the outcome will be exactly the same; and b) that others will not do what he did, but do what he tells them (as in, shut up).
At first glance, it would appear that this may be a sexist attempt to split the gaggle, requiring different sauces for males and females.
If there will be another referendum then Vote Remain campaign need to do so much better than last time. All of what has happened and came out since article 50 should be proof that it's better to remain in. They can't balls it up again. Can they?
There won't be another referendum but, as we've seen people are extremely set in their ways and unlikely to shift much anyway. The level of debate from both sides (with a couple of exceptions) on here is multiple steps up from the utter, totally discredited garbage I read posted on my local newspaper site whenever Brexit comes up. I expect that is repeated elsewhere too. It's depressing tbh.
Short of Paul Dacre, Farage, Boris and all the rest of them admitting on camera that Brexit is going to be a disaster and they got it wrong I can't see anything changing soon. They won't do that because they've nothing to lose through Brexit but everything to lose by admitting it might not be the sunny uplands they're spinning it to be.
Basically, none of us like having our mistakes pointed out to us and admitting we got it wrong do we? Which is why we see Leavers, IMO anyway, ignore, downplay or attack the source of anything that points to their position being less than positive to the UK*. See the avoidance of even a single Leaver on here acknowledging the recent admission that the US will seek to influence our food & farming standards in the future for example...
I think the real crunch will come in 10-15 years time when there's been a more major change in demographics. We might see then a significant move to rejoin a reformed EU. The Mail will of course go into meltdown because we'd be forced to adopt the euro of course.
*and yes it cuts both ways of course but the overwhelming reports of the Brexit impact at the moment are it will be negative for us.
If we do get this second referendum I'd be interested to hear why Nigel has now performed a volte-face on his views about keeping us in the SM/CU and having a Norway or Swiss-style deal.
It'd also be nice to hear why seemingly not a single Leave voter seems to pull up any of the prominent Leave campaigners for reneging on their promise to campaign to keep us in the SM/CU, whereas those who are trying to uphold the promises of the "winning" campaign are lambasted as saboteurs and traitors.
If we do get this second referendum I'd be interested to hear why Nigel has now performed a volte-face on his views about keeping us in the SM/CU and having a Norway or Swiss-style deal.
It'd also be nice to hear why seemingly not a single Leave voter seems to pull up any of the prominent Leave campaigners for reneging on their promise to campaign to keep us in the SM/CU, whereas those who are trying to uphold the promises of the "winning" campaign are lambasted as saboteurs and traitors.
I never believed we would be able to stay in the SM/CU and leave the EU, so what some of them said mattered not to me.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/10/davis-and-hammond-make-plea-to-germany-in-pursuit-of-brexit-deal
Fortunately I seem to accidentally have a current UK and a current Czech licence...
£5 AA IDP- - something I use every year.
You know, like the one you might have used (available from many local Post Offices) when you first went out to Prague? Perhaps you forgot?
There are serious issues surrounding Brexit - why whinge and moan about inconsequential's - it just devalues the message and the messenger.
Can i ever so politely point out to you that I did not write the tweet, so I don't take any responsibility for the ancilliary comments beyond the main point.
Yes, I can just about remember when every little trip to the Continent required all kinds of paperwork, not to mention careful calculation of the pitiful duty free allowance on the way back home.
It is of course not a huge problem on its own. However one of the serious issues around Brexit is that there are myriad things which are small on their own, which we have taken for granted as part of EU membership, and when they are all taken away at the same time, that is when it becomes a great big problem in total.
''No touring hols'' ''travel disruption'' both nonsense and the point of the pointless tweet.
WTF?
I haven't heard what he's said but I'm guessing he's disappointed that, with the latest news that we're looking for a deal on financial services we won't, in his eyes, really be leaving.
On the issue of trade, in some ways I agree with him. It seems we're aiming for is an agreement which gives us some benefits of the single market but the regulatory alignment we'd have to maintain in exchange for those minimal benefits will curtail our ability to do trade deals with non-EU nations.
There is the slight problem that his position assumes that a) the outcome will be exactly the same; and b) that others will not do what he did, but do what he tells them (as in, shut up).
At first glance, it would appear that this may be a sexist attempt to split the gaggle, requiring different sauces for males and females.
Mind you, I despise hypocrisy in others....
Short of Paul Dacre, Farage, Boris and all the rest of them admitting on camera that Brexit is going to be a disaster and they got it wrong I can't see anything changing soon. They won't do that because they've nothing to lose through Brexit but everything to lose by admitting it might not be the sunny uplands they're spinning it to be.
Basically, none of us like having our mistakes pointed out to us and admitting we got it wrong do we? Which is why we see Leavers, IMO anyway, ignore, downplay or attack the source of anything that points to their position being less than positive to the UK*. See the avoidance of even a single Leaver on here acknowledging the recent admission that the US will seek to influence our food & farming standards in the future for example...
I think the real crunch will come in 10-15 years time when there's been a more major change in demographics. We might see then a significant move to rejoin a reformed EU. The Mail will of course go into meltdown because we'd be forced to adopt the euro of course.
*and yes it cuts both ways of course but the overwhelming reports of the Brexit impact at the moment are it will be negative for us.
It'd also be nice to hear why seemingly not a single Leave voter seems to pull up any of the prominent Leave campaigners for reneging on their promise to campaign to keep us in the SM/CU, whereas those who are trying to uphold the promises of the "winning" campaign are lambasted as saboteurs and traitors.