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Charlton vs Wigan: Post match views
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Tiredness ? After 7 league games ?
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Southend finished 7th last year with roughly the same team. I expect Rotherham to be there or thereabouts for the playoffs. Even Bristol Rovers finished above us last year.Callumcafc said:
Perspective... I think that's what tonight's result provides. Too many people on here talking about automatics after four wins against bottom half teams. Not a chance with the squad we have.Redskin said:We were going to lose at some point and tonight was the night.
Dust ourselves down, and go again at Gillingham. Perspective people, perspective.
Beating the teams in the bottom half is actually something we struggled with last year.1 -
Or an aberration...flyingkiwiDK said:Outplayed, out muscled, out thought, out of our depth.
A massive reality check.1 -
Fitness regimes can be about "peaking" at different times in the season. Robinson may be working the players harder now with the idea that it will pay off in the long term when we're fitter come Christmas-time.alan dugdale said:Tiredness ? After 7 league games ?
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As curbs would say.
Don't get carried away when you win
Don't get to depressed when you lose.
Beat Gillingham and we will all feel a lt better13 -
Gutted as thought our only decent XI would surely go on an unbeaten run and romp the league...,l
Tonight was a massive wake up call but if we finish above a Wigan we go up
How good was Byrne..1 -
I think i'll give the Gillingham Ifollow a miss on Saturday after that pile of shit.blackpool72 said:As curbs would say.
Don't get carried away when you win
Don't get to depressed when you lose.
Beat Gillingham and we will all feel a lt better7 -
I'll be at the gameThe_President said:
I think i'll give the Gillingham Ifollow a miss on Saturday after that pile of shit.blackpool72 said:As curbs would say.
Don't get carried away when you win
Don't get to depressed when you lose.
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Watched most of it on iFollow until it stopped working at the end.
The good start didn't prove we're going up and this doesn't prove we're not. Even if Wigan win the league there are three promotion places, not one.
Wigan played with far more energy, looked quicker than us and pressed us far better than we did them. On Saturday our quality came through after Southend tried to make it tough for us. Tonight we didn't cope with Wigan's pressing at all.
How will we cope with injuries? Well we could have done with Marshall and Reeves in the squad tonight. No owner will give us 7/8 senior attacking midfielders although obviously we should have had another striker in the squad.
No doubt a lone striker will be seen as problem to some as we lost. The manager has to have a settled system and it would have been madness to go with anything other than the team and formation he started with.
As much as we need another striker it wouldn't have made the difference tonight - the whole team needs to play a lot better. We can't expect a few subs to change the game on their ownn when the rest of the team isn't doing enough. This wasn't 2/3 players having a bad day, the team as a group didn't perform.
I still expect us to make the play-offs at least with this squad, unless Roland decides to mess it up. Not sure he's interested in getting involved now so that might not be an issue.12 -
You know it's a bad day at the office when Kashi looks bad1
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Ruuuuuubbish! Robinson should have been screaming at some of our boys on that sideline tonight, silly bookings, lost their heads. Got bullied in the middle. Poor poor poor.1
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Wigan done a job on us fair play to them. Everyone has a bad at the office once in a while.9
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We looked tired and came up against a quality side, they were better than us all over the pitch and anyone who finishes above them will go up.
Won't get to down after one poor performance5 -
Robinson's recent record upto the end of last season was horrible - perhaps he got lucky with a really easy start to the season - perhaps tonight was a blip.
Personally i dont like the bloke or the regime (one and the same to me), however a few more matches will tell the true story - not easy starts or tough "one off" nights like tonight.0 -
Gobinson, the Fat Scouser ( there you go SDAddick) has no plan B let alone C or D. If things are not going right then you have to change it. This will be his downfall in the long run.4
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No plan B and a paper thin squad. Was always going to happen. How many of you who thought we'd piss the league are as confident now?
Robinson proved last season he has nothing about him to change a game when it's not going right and tonight he proved it again. Pearce MOM , other than that, the rest were shite0 -
Speaks highly of you as well.LargeAddick said:Gobinson, the Fat Scouser ( there you go SDAddick) has no plan B let alone C or D. If things are not going right then you have to change it. This will be his downfall in the long run.
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Personally, I think our plan A may have been okay had we actually tried harder
Overall I'm pleased so with the start this season, but I'm fuming tonight. I hope there's a recognition from KR that that simply wasn't good enough and we didn't try hard enough4 -
Why not just hold yer hands up and say, they done a good job on us? They stopped us from playing and forced us in to errors, I don't like it but that's what they done,15
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Oh and shout out to Nathan Byrne who was class tonight and had Ricky Holmes in his pocket . Would of been a perfect addition to our squad , but of course that would of meant RD putting his hand in his pocket .10
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This!cafc4life said:Oh and shout out to Nathan Byrne who was class tonight and had Ricky Holmes in his pocket . Would of been a perfect addition to our squad , but of course that would of meant RD putting his hand in his pocket .
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I don't get this "tired" suggestion as Robinson says the squad is very fit, also Wigan played on Saturday and no one has suggested that they were tired.
As for plan B, how can you have one with the standard of our bench0 -
Never felt that we were great before tonight and just reaffirmed my belief we are lightweight in the managerial brain game.
We do not to change the formation to win games but we do have to have a change players to combat the opposition. We were bullied in the centre and although they played the referee at times this only worked when we lost discipline.
Being able to change formation is a bonus but we do not have the squad to do that.
If KR can learn from tonight then good but I have seen nothing so far to suggest that his ego will let him.1 -
Sounds like a few people are waking up to the reality of life under Roland after becoming drunk on a few wins.
He could get us promotion on the loose change in his pockets but chooses not to.
That is the reality.20 -
Badgered by my boys to go so begrudgingly went along to my first game for a long time.
Open minded about what to expect and looking forward to seeing some exciting play.
Unfortunately this was a clear case of a manager being totally outdone by his opposite number. Quite simply stop Holmes and you stop us playing.
Wigan had a clear game plan that at times bordered on rule breaking but they did their job to a man.
Their strikers played high and put pressure on our centre backs to play long. They then mopped up the second ball and attacked with pace down the flanks often overloading our full backs. Their first two goals came from this.
With our bench we cannot bring on a game changer just inexperienced youngsters and with all due respect neither Ahearne-Grant or Dodoo are going to frighten Alex Bruce or Dan Burn.
Maybe I saw us in an off day but I think it's more likely that other teams will see how Wigan stopped us playing and adopt the same tactics.
Over to you, Karl.16 -
First game in ages at home.
We were pressed all over the park and had no answer to it. We had no out ball and no pace to get in behind and that was evident after 25 mins. It was crying out of dodoo through the middle. Poor performance all round tbh. I thought atmosphere was awful so all in all not great night0 -
Jesus we have lost one game at home to the favourites to win the league, still third in the league and the site has gone into meltdown.16
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Expected better, got the same Tuesday night dross as the last few seasons (think Preston, MK Dons x2). Ben Amos hopefully has few remaining doubters after this evening, as he alone stood between a mere "wake up call" and a humiliation of Leeds 1-6 proportions (though I struggle to see where our one goal would have come from). Oh dear.
We move on, battered and bruised but maybe a bit wiser.7 -
Out classed from first to last minute. Ref was crap...scoreline could have been worse. We were woeful.
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Wasn't there but result / performance feels a real kick in the nuts.
Know it's only one defeat, one bad performance etc but we was building a nice sense of momentum and (personally) I really thought we were going to put down a marker tonight.
Everyone has off days, but hope their are no tiredness excuses against a team who have made a 200 mile plus midweek trip3
