Difficult for me to be objective as I can't stand the bloke and frequently have nightmares about being trapped in a lift with him. He loves a kneejerk comment, this is the same bloke who said he couldn't fault the players for effort after we lost at home to Bury, and then said that they weren't fit to wear the shirt when we lost to Shrewsbury 3 days later. On that basis, I presume that if we lose tonight, his first comment after the match will be "I'm afraid we've lost are Charlton again".
Have to say, I'm surprised how easily some of you are won over. Our overall record under him is pretty dismal, even if I didn't loathe him he'd have to do a lot more than narrrowly win one game against average opposition to convince me that this is a bright new era. Putting Karl aside, we've had positive starts in two of the seasons since the Belgians have arrived - one ended in relegation, the other ended in a mid-season meltdown, both were the consequence of having a pretty good starting eleven and no depth whatsoever behind it.
I guess it's been so rubbish for so long that it's natural for some to get carried away by the slightest hint of positivity.
Agreed, he had a terrible start with the squad he'd inherited. The players weren't suitable for the style of football he wanted to play. But there were obvious improvements to the football we were playing towards the end of the season, results improved, and now he has the sort of players he (and we) wanted, let's see how we go eh?
Not interested in his quotes but Robinson was responsible for a sequence of one win in 14 which ended on the second Saturday in April, long after the January transfer window over which he presided, with the two previous months to plan. He had the opportunity to bring in players to suit his system.
Southend apart, the results at the end of the season were against very poor teams, as denoted by the fact that three of them were relegated and a fourth escaped by one place and one point. Not much to go on there, overall. You can only beat what's in front of you, but let's not get carried away.
He now starts with a clean slate and should be judged on that IMO, but let's not pretend his record last season was anything other than poor, or pretend that he had no responsibility for it.
He took over a demoralised, poor squad, and tried to get them to play attacking football. Slade was more pragmatic, happy to try to grind out results. It was dire to watch.
The results before Robinson took over don't really bear out the idea the squad was "demoralised" either under Slade or Nugent, unless it was by the manager being sacked because he refused to have a coach imposed on him by the owner.
I don't think Slade was great but he had no chance with the Swindon game and the fact remains that statistically he did better than Robinson, for which the only caveat would be that Robinson lost Lookman in January. Nugent got seven points in three games with that squad - we went backwards when Robinson arrived. But it's this season that matters now!
I would have kept Nugent in the role for as long as he kept getting results. From memory I think they played ok under him.
Generally hate all this changing the manager every three months nonesense.
Under Curbishley we found simething we never had before, that led us to a point of genuinely being the fourth best side in the country at one all too short point. That showed what we are capable of when you have everything right and all pulling together. That is the Charlton I want back.That is the Charlton Chrissy Powell wanted back. It did happen, and we have to believe it can happen again.
WHat that Charlton achieved over a sustained period meant far more than anything Man City, Arsenal or Man Utd can ever achieve. We acheived it together and whilst we are all very different as fans, we were totally together. I want that Charlton back, but it wasn't built in a day. But you do have to start building to get there!
Unfortunately Muttley the chances of Charlton reaching 4th in The Premiership is rather unlikely. I feel you are setting your aspirations too high.
I'd like us to win The Champions League, but I'm not going to slag off KR every time he says something (I know you didn't).
KR has been misquoted and some people couldn't wait to stick the boot in.
We all know he speaks too much and his enthusiasm means he speaks too quickly and not in a measured way.
But can't some people try and be a little more understanding, that's he not perfect ?
Perhaps, we should hound him out and get back Chris O'Loughlin ?
Difficult for me to be objective as I can't stand the bloke and frequently have nightmares about being trapped in a lift with him. He loves a kneejerk comment, this is the same bloke who said he couldn't fault the players for effort after we lost at home to Bury, and then said that they weren't fit to wear the shirt when we lost to Shrewsbury 3 days later. On that basis, I presume that if we lose tonight, his first comment after the match will be "I'm afraid we've lost are Charlton again".
Have to say, I'm surprised how easily some of you are won over. Our overall record under him is pretty dismal, even if I didn't loathe him he'd have to do a lot more than narrrowly win one game against average opposition to convince me that this is a bright new era. Putting Karl aside, we've had positive starts in two of the seasons since the Belgians have arrived - one ended in relegation, the other ended in a mid-season meltdown, both were the consequence of having a pretty good starting eleven and no depth whatsoever behind it.
I guess it's been so rubbish for so long that it's natural for some to get carried away by the slightest hint of positivity.
Agreed, he had a terrible start with the squad he'd inherited. The players weren't suitable for the style of football he wanted to play. But there were obvious improvements to the football we were playing towards the end of the season, results improved, and now he has the sort of players he (and we) wanted, let's see how we go eh?
Not interested in his quotes but Robinson was responsible for a sequence of one win in 14 which ended on the second Saturday in April, long after the January transfer window over which he presided, with the two previous months to plan. He had the opportunity to bring in players to suit his system.
Southend apart, the results at the end of the season were against very poor teams, as denoted by the fact that three of them were relegated and a fourth escaped by one place and one point. Not much to go on there, overall. You can only beat what's in front of you, but let's not get carried away.
He now starts with a clean slate and should be judged on that IMO, but let's not pretend his record last season was anything other than poor, or pretend that he had no responsibility for it.
He took over a demoralised, poor squad, and tried to get them to play attacking football. Slade was more pragmatic, happy to try to grind out results. It was dire to watch.
The results before Robinson took over don't really bear out the idea the squad was "demoralised" either under Slade or Nugent, unless it was by the manager being sacked because he refused to have a coach imposed on him by the owner.
I don't think Slade was great but he had no chance with the Swindon game and the fact remains that statistically he did better than Robinson, for which the only caveat would be that Robinson lost Lookman in January. Nugent got seven points in three games with that squad - we went backwards when Robinson arrived. But it's this season that matters now!
I would have kept Nugent in the role for as long as he kept getting results. From memory I think they played ok under him.
Generally hate all this changing the manager every three months nonesense.
Indeed - but it is what Duchatelet does and he's just done it again at Sint-Truiden.
Under Curbishley we found simething we never had before, that led us to a point of genuinely being the fourth best side in the country at one all too short point. That showed what we are capable of when you have everything right and all pulling together. That is the Charlton I want back.That is the Charlton Chrissy Powell wanted back. It did happen, and we have to believe it can happen again.
WHat that Charlton achieved over a sustained period meant far more than anything Man City, Arsenal or Man Utd can ever achieve. We acheived it together and whilst we are all very different as fans, we were totally together. I want that Charlton back, but it wasn't built in a day. But you do have to start building to get there!
Unfortunately Muttley the chances of Charlton reaching 4th in The Premiership is rather unlikely. I feel you are setting your aspirations too high.
I'd like us to win The Champions League, but I'm not going to slag off KR every time he says something (I know you didn't).
KR has been misquoted and some people couldn't wait to stick the boot in.
We all know he speaks too much and his enthusiasm means he speaks too quickly and not in a measured way.
But can't some people try and be a little more understanding, that's he not perfect ?
Perhaps, we should hound him out and get back Chris O'Loughlin ?
I think you miss my point, our Charlton was the period building up to that point and beyond that point. We lost it when Curbs left. And I think we should be setting our aspirations high.
they ( us ) have got their team ( charlton ) back.
translates to fans have their charlton back.
he probably didn't mean it in that way, but its a case as is often with Karl of him getting far too excited and running away with himself. a league is won over a season not 1 game, IF we are to do anything home form needs to come 1st bit shit for those of us that have to watch us away but swings and roundabouts.
With the greatest respect you do not have to watch us away. You choose to.
It's your choice, it's up to you. If you want to start supporting Charlton at home, then that will also be your choice.
If it's a bit shit not watching Charlton at home, you are free to start doing so, don't make yourself unhappy life's too short.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
I think given the clarification/correction of what he actually said it isn't unreasonable to draw the conclusion that he was referring to the difference between the team now, and what it has been for the last couple of seasons. I'd have to agree with that too.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
Relentless bile, completely out of proportion to the crime. Which is what exactly,btw? Talking too much? Well we all spout off here without receiving anything like as much abuse as he has. Personally I'm happy to have a manager who seems to care and seems to be starting to build a decent side. I don't give a damn if he talks too much. It really doesn't matter to me.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
You really need to read the thread before spouting crap as some may suspect that your comments may equally apply to yourself. He said we have our "team" back.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
The reaction to comments made by Robinson have been completely over the top. What Robinson meant was that they are trying to get back to the core values of what Charlton are about. Hard work, togetherness etc. Certain people pounce on every phrase or expression and use it against Robinson. Robinson is a football manager not a politician, he is enthusiastic and sometimes lets his mouth run away with him.
Tbh some of the comments on here say far more about the poster than they do Robinson and as for verbal diarrhoea, some people need to look in the mirror.
NB Perhaps people also want to check the facts about what was actually said before posting such a tirade of vile abuse.
Under Curbishley we found simething we never had before, that led us to a point of genuinely being the fourth best side in the country at one all too short point. That showed what we are capable of when you have everything right and all pulling together. That is the Charlton I want back.That is the Charlton Chrissy Powell wanted back. It did happen, and we have to believe it can happen again.
WHat that Charlton achieved over a sustained period meant far more than anything Man City, Arsenal or Man Utd can ever achieve. We acheived it together and whilst we are all very different as fans, we were totally together. I want that Charlton back, but it wasn't built in a day. But you do have to start building to get there!
Unfortunately Muttley the chances of Charlton reaching 4th in The Premiership is rather unlikely. I feel you are setting your aspirations too high.
I'd like us to win The Champions League, but I'm not going to slag off KR every time he says something (I know you didn't).
KR has been misquoted and some people couldn't wait to stick the boot in.
We all know he speaks too much and his enthusiasm means he speaks too quickly and not in a measured way.
But can't some people try and be a little more understanding, that's he not perfect ?
Perhaps, we should hound him out and get back Chris O'Loughlin ?
This.
(He says) it's his team, his first full season and his first full pre-season... I hope you prove to us what you can do as manager KR and start to HELP to bring our Charlton back.
It's a job for the fans, the footballing staff and the owners. Not just one of that trifecta.
Difficult for me to be objective as I can't stand the bloke and frequently have nightmares about being trapped in a lift with him. He loves a kneejerk comment, this is the same bloke who said he couldn't fault the players for effort after we lost at home to Bury, and then said that they weren't fit to wear the shirt when we lost to Shrewsbury 3 days later. On that basis, I presume that if we lose tonight, his first comment after the match will be "I'm afraid we've lost are Charlton again".
Have to say, I'm surprised how easily some of you are won over. Our overall record under him is pretty dismal, even if I didn't loathe him he'd have to do a lot more than narrrowly win one game against average opposition to convince me that this is a bright new era. Putting Karl aside, we've had positive starts in two of the seasons since the Belgians have arrived - one ended in relegation, the other ended in a mid-season meltdown, both were the consequence of having a pretty good starting eleven and no depth whatsoever behind it.
I guess it's been so rubbish for so long that it's natural for some to get carried away by the slightest hint of positivity.
Agreed, he had a terrible start with the squad he'd inherited. The players weren't suitable for the style of football he wanted to play. But there were obvious improvements to the football we were playing towards the end of the season, results improved, and now he has the sort of players he (and we) wanted, let's see how we go eh?
Not interested in his quotes but Robinson was responsible for a sequence of one win in 14 which ended on the second Saturday in April, long after the January transfer window over which he presided, with the two previous months to plan. He had the opportunity to bring in players to suit his system.
Southend apart, the results at the end of the season were against very poor teams, as denoted by the fact that three of them were relegated and a fourth escaped by one place and one point. Not much to go on there, overall. You can only beat what's in front of you, but let's not get carried away.
He now starts with a clean slate and should be judged on that IMO, but let's not pretend his record last season was anything other than poor, or pretend that he had no responsibility for it.
He took over a demoralised, poor squad, and tried to get them to play attacking football. Slade was more pragmatic, happy to try to grind out results. It was dire to watch.
The results before Robinson took over don't really bear out the idea the squad was "demoralised" either under Slade or Nugent, unless it was by the manager being sacked because he refused to have a coach imposed on him by the owner.
I don't think Slade was great but he had no chance with the Swindon game and the fact remains that statistically he did better than Robinson, for which the only caveat would be that Robinson lost Lookman in January. Nugent got seven points in three games with that squad - we went backwards when Robinson arrived. But it's this season that matters now!
If it's this Season that matters most why mention Slade and Nugent. This constant looking back at how things were is not very helpful. Personally I have done some bad things in my life, but do I keep looking back on them? No because it is not helpful.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
The reaction to comments made by Robinson have been completely over the top. What Robinson meant was that they are trying to get back to the core values of what Charlton are about. Hard work, togetherness etc. Certain people pounce on every phrase or expression and use it against Robinson. Robinson is a football manager not a politician, he is enthusiastic and sometimes lets his mouth run away with him.
Tbh some of the comments on here say far more about the poster than they do Robinson and as for verbal diarrhoea, some people need to look in the mirror.
NB Perhaps people also want to check the facts about what was actually said before posting such a tirade of vile abuse.
Shame on some of our supporters.
That is word for word what I posted on Not606. Plagerise me if you will but I want a royalty payment.
There is no bigger critic of the executive of this club than me. I have no interest in them personally. I am interested in their performance, actions and decisions in so far as they impact my club.
You may or may not like Mr Robinson, Ms Meire or M Duchatelet. Whether I do or do not is largely irrelevant. My interest in Mr Robinson is in the end results and performances of the team that represents my club.
When you go to work do you like everybody you work with? Do you really enjoy working for this or that boss? In 40yrs I probably only enjoyed working for 3 bosses and one of those was me!
Personally Mr Robinson is not for me. So what? I worked with dozens of people who socially I would probably cross the street to avoid, and they would probably do same if they saw me but as long as they met their targets they were fine by me and if they exceeded them I would be the first congratulate them for their efforts.
When you played team sport did you get on with every other player in the side? Once they pulled on the shirt, providing they put in their shift and made their contribution to the team and shared my values of the team ethic did I worry about whether I shared any other of their personal attributes or values? No we just shared a common interest and experience. Yes if we did share other interests and values we would become friends. If not so be it.
Did you enjoy the win and the team performance against Ipswich? The win and the team performance against Bristol Rovers? The win and the team performance against Exeter?
Has not the prime drive of all those against the executive management of the club been to support "the team not the regime"? Has there not been a specific focus on not conflating the two? Unless there has been some judicious editing has not Mr Robinson, unwittingly or not, made the same clear reference to the team?
Mr Robinson, no matter his style, no matter his personality, is at present hitting his targets. He is fine with me. If he exceeds those targets I will be the first to congratulate him ........ and those who support him.
If he falls short of those targets then I will challenge his performance, his style and his values and make a judgement whether he was suitably empowered by others to deliver to those targets. At which point their actions and decisions will become the subject of greater scrutiny.
I am pleased and encouraged by the team/ squad performances seen so far though it is perhaps telling some seem so desperate to believe all has changed after a couple of orgasmic weekends against Ipswich and Bristol. For me it is akin to the spotty callow youth getting a smile from the girl whom he has worshipped from afar for years. It is just a smile. It may mean something - it may not. Time will tell.
This thread contains some very heartfelt comment about what the club means to individual contributors. I have no problem with any of that. I share the majority of those values however I am not sure they are germane to the latest comments by Mr Robinson.
You may love him. You may hate him but at the moment he is pulling on my team shirt and delivering to team. If the "noise" offends you just turn down the sound and watch the pictures.
There is a long road to travel over the coming months. There will be mistakes, there will be stumbles, there will be lots of decisions to be made. How the football management and the executive manage those issues through their actions and their decisions and the results they achieve will tell us all we need to know about their competence and their values. "Noises off" are largely irrelevant.
Had Mr Robinson referred to "the club" in his comments I would have criticised them not only as being presumptuous and premature but for disrespecting, distracting and deflecting hearts and minds from the squad achievements over recent weeks. He did not. In footballing terms his comments remain premature but no more so than anyone of a thousand salespersons waxing lyrical about the sales they have in the pipeline.
So perhaps just for a few days just focus on, enjoy and show a little respect for the results and performances achieved to this point. In face of the challenges to be met they are creditable, encouraging and worthy of our appreciation.
Isn't it about time the title of this thread was changed to what he actually said ?
No it's much better like this
And then someone on Facebook reads it...doesn't bother with the comments or the context of what was said and puts it on Facebook....and then lots of sheeple think that's an accurate reflection on events and so it goes on.
Isn't it about time the title of this thread was changed to what he actually said ?
No it's much better like this
And then someone on Facebook reads it...doesn't bother with the comments or the context of what was said and puts it on Facebook....and then lots of sheeple think that's an accurate reflection on events and so it goes on.
So a bit like what's happened on this thread swisdom
When the club ran free coaches to a game because a supporters trust was running coaches, but can't run coaches at a loss to cup game shows the regard the currant regime holds its loyal supporters. More interested in saving face/putting one up the Trust than protecting its assets those in Exeter last night. What happens on the pitch is just a part of what needs to be addressed, they just don't get it.
Robinson is a funny chap. I'm not convinced he's the sharpest tool in the box, but I suppose that doesn't necessarily correlate with being a good manager.
My favourite thing about his interviews is the way he can't really think two steps ahead.
"I can't really say" ...proceeds to say. "It's all down to me" ..1 minute later.. "but it's not just down to me".
I also like it when he realises that he has made too sweeping a statement so tacks an "in some ways" onto the end of the sentence.
A typical Robinson sentence:
"I'm not going to talk about the referee, it wouldn't be right. But I do think on this ref was absolutely appalling. In some ways."
Robinson is a funny chap. I'm not convinced he's the sharpest tool in the box, but I suppose that doesn't necessarily correlate with being a good manager.
My favourite thing about his interviews is the way he can't really think two steps ahead.
"I can't really say" ...proceeds to say. "It's all down to me" ..1 minute later.. "but it's not just down to me".
I also like it when he realises that he has made too sweeping a statement so tacks an "in some ways" onto the end of the sentence.
A typical Robinson sentence:
"I'm not going to talk about the referee, it wouldn't be right. But I do think on this ref was absolutely appalling. In some ways."
I agree with what others have said.
He is school boy like, bursting with enthusiasm, like a shaken up unopened bottle of coca cola.
He's contradictory, he doesn't think clearly before he talks, he gets carried away. He definitely talks too much.
BUT
Do I prefer him to Slade's comatose style of talk and play ?
Do I prefer him to Congo Chris, Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye ?
Is he a politician or a football manager ?
Does/did Wenger, Mouhrino, Redknapp, Pardew, et al, chat shite. Yes they do.
So can't we just accept that he'll never be perfect and back someone that is trying his best to give us a good team to watch and be proud of ?
Judge him on the football please and ignore what he says if you find it too much to bear.
No we fucking haven't got our club back and until the belgian bungler and his mendacious toadie are replaced ,there's no chance we can have it back. Even after roly eventually sells, we'll have to wait to see who and what has replaced him before we can begin to repair many of the ties. We felt like we had "our club back" when SCP orchestrated that promotion but we found out we only had it loaned to us while the spivs' backer was on board, as soon as those two had their piggy bank closed up things slid back down. It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective. Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at. Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
The reaction to comments made by Robinson have been completely over the top. What Robinson meant was that they are trying to get back to the core values of what Charlton are about. Hard work, togetherness etc.
Do be sure to tell us what he means every time he gives an interview, won't you.
I am willing to believe that KR did not mean his quote the way it came off. That he meant CAFC was back to being a winning club.
But that, in a way, shows just how out of touch CULTURALLY he is from our extended community. No one with even a distant understanding of what has been happening would make that gaffe. Which means either he is tone deaf to fans, out of touch with the world outside his immediate view, or a lackey to management. Or all three.
I congratulate him on how much better we are playing. But I will never actually like him. Because he simply is not an Addick. Never was. Never will be.
I am not willing to settle BETWEEN winning and having a manager who understands the fans. I want both. And I don't think its unreasonable.
I am willing to believe that KR did not mean his quote the way it came off. That he meant CAFC was back to being a winning club.
But that, in a way, shows just how out of touch CULTURALLY he is from our extended community. No one with even a distant understanding of what has been happening would make that gaffe. Which means either he is tone deaf to fans, out of touch with the world outside his immediate view, or a lackey to management. Or all three.
I congratulate him on how much better we are playing. But I will never actually like him. Because he simply is not an Addick. Never was. Never will be.
I am not willing to settle BETWEEN winning and having a manager who understands the fans. I want both. And I don't think its unreasonable.
So you're in the USA and are more culturally in touch than the manager ?
When was the last game you saw live at The Valley and how many live games have you seen at The Valley under the RD ownership and in total ?
Genuine questions, because I'm trying to understand how you are more culturally in touch than our manager. Thanks.
Sorry to spoil your fun nappa, but the crowd on Saturday and Tuesday were singing Robbos name. There is more of a connection than may appear from just reading this site.
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Generally hate all this changing the manager every three months nonesense.
I'd like us to win The Champions League, but I'm not going to slag off KR every time he says something (I know you didn't).
KR has been misquoted and some people couldn't wait to stick the boot in.
We all know he speaks too much and his enthusiasm means he speaks too quickly and not in a measured way.
But can't some people try and be a little more understanding, that's he not perfect ?
Perhaps, we should hound him out and get back Chris O'Loughlin ?
It's your choice, it's up to you. If you want to start supporting Charlton at home, then that will also be your choice.
If it's a bit shit not watching Charlton at home, you are free to start doing so, don't make yourself unhappy life's too short.
It's useless speculating what gobbinson thought he meant by the comment, his verbal diarrhea is utterly relentless. All outbursts like this continue to prove is that he actually knows fuck all that's useful about anything that really matters and has absolutely no filter, tact or perspective.
Ideally he should shut the fuck up, say as little as possible and concentrate on something he might actually be good at.
Jesus H Christ he is so irritating!
Talking too much? Well we all spout off here without receiving anything like as much abuse as he has.
Personally I'm happy to have a manager who seems to care and seems to be starting to build a decent side.
I don't give a damn if he talks too much. It really doesn't matter to me.
What is grating is the arrogance and blinkered view of many Charlton fans who deem their idea of what Charlton "is" and when it is "back" as absolute.
Even in the glory days under Curbs you could rely on us to at least get taken to extra time by a side in the third or fourth division.
#WeWantOurCharltonBack
What Robinson meant was that they are trying to get back to the core values of what Charlton are about.
Hard work, togetherness etc.
Certain people pounce on every phrase or expression and use it against Robinson.
Robinson is a football manager not a politician, he is enthusiastic and sometimes lets his mouth run away with him.
Tbh some of the comments on here say far more about the poster than they do Robinson and as for verbal diarrhoea, some people need to look in the mirror.
NB Perhaps people also want to check the facts about what was actually said before posting such a tirade of vile abuse.
Shame on some of our supporters.
(He says) it's his team, his first full season and his first full pre-season... I hope you prove to us what you can do as manager KR and start to HELP to bring our Charlton back.
It's a job for the fans, the footballing staff and the owners. Not just one of that trifecta.
You may or may not like Mr Robinson, Ms Meire or M Duchatelet. Whether I do or do not is largely irrelevant. My interest in Mr Robinson is in the end results and performances of the team that represents my club.
When you go to work do you like everybody you work with? Do you really enjoy working for this or that boss? In 40yrs I probably only enjoyed working for 3 bosses and one of those was me!
Personally Mr Robinson is not for me. So what? I worked with dozens of people who socially I would probably cross the street to avoid, and they would probably do same if they saw me but as long as they met their targets they were fine by me and if they exceeded them I would be the first congratulate them for their efforts.
When you played team sport did you get on with every other player in the side? Once they pulled on the shirt, providing they put in their shift and made their contribution to the team and shared my values of the team ethic did I worry about whether I shared any other of their personal attributes or values? No we just shared a common interest and experience. Yes if we did share other interests and values we would become friends. If not so be it.
Did you enjoy the win and the team performance against Ipswich? The win and the team performance against Bristol Rovers? The win and the team performance against Exeter?
Has not the prime drive of all those against the executive management of the club been to support "the team not the regime"? Has there not been a specific focus on not conflating the two? Unless there has been some judicious editing has not Mr Robinson, unwittingly or not, made the same clear reference to the team?
Mr Robinson, no matter his style, no matter his personality, is at present hitting his targets. He is fine with me. If he exceeds those targets I will be the first to congratulate him ........ and those who support him.
If he falls short of those targets then I will challenge his performance, his style and his values and make a judgement whether he was suitably empowered by others to deliver to those targets. At which point their actions and decisions will become the subject of greater scrutiny.
I am pleased and encouraged by the team/ squad performances seen so far though it is perhaps telling some seem so desperate to believe all has changed after a couple of orgasmic weekends against Ipswich and Bristol. For me it is akin to the spotty callow youth getting a smile from the girl whom he has worshipped from afar for years. It is just a smile. It may mean something - it may not. Time will tell.
This thread contains some very heartfelt comment about what the club means to individual contributors. I have no problem with any of that. I share the majority of those values however I am not sure they are germane to the latest comments by Mr Robinson.
You may love him. You may hate him but at the moment he is pulling on my team shirt and delivering to team. If the "noise" offends you just turn down the sound and watch the pictures.
There is a long road to travel over the coming months. There will be mistakes, there will be stumbles, there will be lots of decisions to be made. How the football management and the executive manage those issues through their actions and their decisions and the results they achieve will tell us all we need to know about their competence and their values. "Noises off" are largely irrelevant.
Had Mr Robinson referred to "the club" in his comments I would have criticised them not only as being presumptuous and premature but for disrespecting, distracting and deflecting hearts and minds from the squad achievements over recent weeks. He did not. In footballing terms his comments remain premature but no more so than anyone of a thousand salespersons waxing lyrical about the sales they have in the pipeline.
So perhaps just for a few days just focus on, enjoy and show a little respect for the results and performances achieved to this point. In face of the challenges to be met they are creditable, encouraging and worthy of our appreciation.
That in recent times is an achievement in itself.
My favourite thing about his interviews is the way he can't really think two steps ahead.
"I can't really say" ...proceeds to say.
"It's all down to me" ..1 minute later.. "but it's not just down to me".
I also like it when he realises that he has made too sweeping a statement so tacks an "in some ways" onto the end of the sentence.
A typical Robinson sentence:
"I'm not going to talk about the referee, it wouldn't be right. But I do think on this ref was absolutely appalling. In some ways."
He is school boy like, bursting with enthusiasm, like a shaken up unopened bottle of coca cola.
He's contradictory, he doesn't think clearly before he talks, he gets carried away. He definitely talks too much.
BUT
Do I prefer him to Slade's comatose style of talk and play ?
Do I prefer him to Congo Chris, Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye ?
Is he a politician or a football manager ?
Does/did Wenger, Mouhrino, Redknapp, Pardew, et al, chat shite. Yes they do.
So can't we just accept that he'll never be perfect and back someone that is trying his best to give us a good team to watch and be proud of ?
Judge him on the football please and ignore what he says if you find it too much to bear.
But that, in a way, shows just how out of touch CULTURALLY he is from our extended community. No one with even a distant understanding of what has been happening would make that gaffe. Which means either he is tone deaf to fans, out of touch with the world outside his immediate view, or a lackey to management. Or all three.
I congratulate him on how much better we are playing. But I will never actually like him. Because he simply is not an Addick. Never was. Never will be.
I am not willing to settle BETWEEN winning and having a manager who understands the fans. I want both. And I don't think its unreasonable.
When was the last game you saw live at The Valley and how many live games have you seen at The Valley under the RD ownership and in total ?
Genuine questions, because I'm trying to understand how you are more culturally in touch than our manager. Thanks.