He's not talking about the "other aspects" of the club, this isn't a wide ranging interview done at 2pm on a Friday, this is a comment after a match, when emotions are high, a match where the players gave the proverbial 110%, showed superb team spirit and "died for the shirt", and were really well backed by the fans. There was a real sense of unity in that 90 minutes between the team and the supporters on Saturday (team meaning the players and coaching staff)
Yes it was hyperbole, but in the circumstances, it's not surprising.
Exactly, cut the bloke some slack ffs.
Anyone there would have seen a Charlton team put in more effort than any team has under RD. It was also a very skillful performance. A great battling 10 man victory.
The crowd vibe was also the best for years, just like the old days.
KR is doing well considering the hand he has been dealt (I know he chose to play).
Get behind him and stop all the insults. Some of the comments on here are extremely poor.
If you don't want to support the team then don't, but please don't abuse the manager, who I believe is genuinely doing his best for the fans, (as well as his boss and himself).
I like Karl and think he is doing the best job he can under difficult circumstances, some of the stick he gets is embarrassing, especially all the "Tarbuck" comments which are out of order and juvenile.
However, on this occasion he has been a bit premature (ooooeer Missus), it will only be when we deliver a sound spanking to the Fulham U-21s in the Check-a-Trade EFL Trophy that I will dare to dream big again.
This is the same man who six months ago was almost in tears in a post match interview telling us that he had run out of ideas and didn't know what to do! Come on KR tell us the reason why we should honestly believe that we do in fact have our Charlton back Also don't forget we have been told several times it isn't "our" Charlton to get back, so why should we get excited?
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
That phrase is nothing to do with Premier league status and you know it. Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1. Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been. However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
That phrase is nothing to do with Premier league status and you know it. Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1. Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been. However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
And who has been that wonderful owner in all the years you've supported charlton ? Obviously Murray immediately springs to mind because that's the era when we achieved the most in and off the field but there are some on here, possibly the same ones trying to undermine the team now, who seem to take exception to him now. Or was it the two when we had the one sensational season under SCP ? Or Friar who moved us to Selhurst. Or Glikstein ?
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
That phrase is nothing to do with Premier league status and you know it. Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1. Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been. However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
And who has been that wonderful owner in all the years you've supported charlton ? Obviously Murray immediately springs to mind because that's the era when we achieved the most in and off the field but there are some on here, possibly the same ones trying to undermine the team now, who seem to take exception to him now. Or was it the two when we had the one sensational season under SCP ? Or Friar who moved us to Selhurst. Or Glikstein ?
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
That phrase is nothing to do with Premier league status and you know it. Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1. Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been. However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
And who has been that wonderful owner in all the years you've supported charlton ? Obviously Murray immediately springs to mind because that's the era when we achieved the most in and off the field but there are some on here, possibly the same ones trying to undermine the team now, who seem to take exception to him now. Or was it the two when we had the one sensational season under SCP ? Or Friar who moved us to Selhurst. Or Glikstein ?
Great post.I am sick and tired at the constant sniping at KR by some on here at any given opportunity.He is our Manager and deserves our support and not to receive so much vile for making a comment that yet again the usual suspects on here will use to attack him.Quite frankly it's boring -FFS give it a rest.COYR
KR states the bleeding obvious that the team is getting its act together and gets grief from a few people who seem to think the real charlton is a team that had a few good seasons in the PL. Well it's not, the real charlton is the one I've been supporting for the last 50 years where for most of the time we've been regularly moving through a cycle of being shit, mostly average and briefly fantastic. Don't come to The Valley if you want to boycott because of Roland but don't try and undermine the team in any way with the constant sniping if you do support charlton.
That phrase is nothing to do with Premier league status and you know it. Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1. Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been. However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
And who has been that wonderful owner in all the years you've supported charlton ? Obviously Murray immediately springs to mind because that's the era when we achieved the most in and off the field but there are some on here, possibly the same ones trying to undermine the team now, who seem to take exception to him now. Or was it the two when we had the one sensational season under SCP ? Or Friar who moved us to Selhurst. Or Glikstein ?
Thanks for reminding me of our previous owners - I had no idea. All of the above were bothered enough to attend games. None of the above condoned the manhandling of young supporters by stewards or sent out amateur asbo letters to potential season ticket holders. They all had faults but were nowhere as bad as the current bloke.
I think he was refering to more the team, for me a Charlton team is a team that fights and cares and we did see that on Saturday.
One swallow and all that but if that is the way this TEAM not the REGIME play this year then I am happy and will see it as a team i can relate to you and in some ways will see it like My Charlton back.
Nothing the guy say or does will please some people at the moment.
I think he was refering to more the team, for me a Charlton team is a team that fights and cares and we did see that on Saturday.
One swallow and all that but if that is the way this TEAM not the REGIME play this year then I am happy and will see it as a team i can relate to you and in some ways will see it like My Charlton back.
Nothing the guy say or does will please some people at the moment.
Personally speaking, I don't really rate or like Robinson as a manager.
But I do believe that he is an experienced media operator. He knows what he is saying. If he had wanted to state the we were getting our Charlton back on the pitch, he would have said that.
we probably all just need to stop scrutinising his every comment in such detail (yes I know he talks a lot blah blah and probably needs to sometimes engage his brain before opening his mouth, however If that's his worst trait then that's fine by me)
I've actually warmed to the guy, met him at Welling and he was more than happy to chat and have a pic with the kids etc. Really wish him well and hope he succeeds as his heart is definitely in the right place
Who has " got their Charlton back?" RD and KM have been a total disaster. I am not sure who is worse, but KM is the one day to day managing with ideas and actions that are not suitable for running a English football club. A fact, unfortunately, the current attendance is changing. There are far more children, with their cokes and burgers- I am sad to acknowledge this is KMs plan. Nothing wrong with wanting to get a continuing fan base, but as " old" supporters bring our children and grandchildren so the supporter base continues. The problem is that what happens when the current new generation get fed up and don't go? Not having Belgium numptys as manager and imposed hopeless foreign players is a step forward but it's the heart and soul that has been ripped out. Only RD and mainly KM going can start to regain that.
we probably all just need to stop scrutinising his every comment in such detail (yes I know he talks a lot blah blah and probably needs to sometimes engage his brain before opening his mouth, however If that's his worst trait then that's fine by me)
I've actually warmed to the guy, met him at Welling and he was more than happy to chat and have a pic with the kids etc. Really wish him well and hope he succeeds as his heart is definitely in the right place
This is the key bit for me, he is so eager to bring success back to Charlton to actually understand what the fans want and that is why he made this comment and similar ones before.
Young manager gets a bit excited after a win with 10 men who seem to be fighting for the cause.
As supporters, we are the world's worst for going over the top following a win or feeling utter dismay following a defeat.
All he's doing is trying to create a togetherness, at least between the team/management and the supporters, something we haven't had for the past few years.
Might not have been the best choice of words but, as others have said, cut him some slack. HE is not the issue here.
Liking the owner or indeed the CEO has never been important to me. But the club has been run shambolicaly and disrespectfully and there is a point where enough has to be enough.We reached that IMO when Fraeye was appointed - which has to go down as one of the most baffling inept decisions in our history. If God had a ligtning bolt aimed at me and ordered me to answer truthfully and then asked me whether I think I would have done a better job than Fraye, I would have to answer yes!!!!
Then there was a lack of undertsanding and respect towards us, and heroes like Powell and Curbs. I think the way Curbishley's interest was dismissed when Luzon got the job was outrageous. The e-mails that Powell recieved and then the lies in denial were even more disgusting. Comments made about us being idiots, comments made about the aims of the club were genuinely frightening and disgusting. But as football fans, we would have forgiven had the club been moderately successful on the pitch. Instead we have been losing fans hand over fist as we watch these idiots allow the club to slide into oblivion. To those that say, it is his money and he can do as he pleases, well no he can't. If he destroys the club and walks away, he won't lose any sleep, but it will kill a lot of us. And no owner stays too long - they are just custodians and have responsabilities as such.
Duchatelet has basically told us he is not inetersted anymore, and if Meire has learnt enough to allow teh manager to get on with it, fair enough. Of course, you first have to appoint the right manager. I was chatting to an ex Chairman of a club currently doing well in the Premier League on Sunday and he told me that you have to get the right man and allow him to do the job. But it isn't rocket science.
Deciding that all of the failings was about appointing a foreign manager was stupid too. It was about not giving teh managers the control they needed and you will hear mutterings of that from teh decent managers that have been appointed by this mob. Slade was a stupid choice, and I said so at the time - a bloke that has never managed to win a promotion FFS in quite a long career. Now if they have stumbled on a decent manager in Robinson, well I do thing they have appointed some not bad managers - but if they have and have decided - maybe from Duchatelet's apathy and possibly our resistance, to let him run the club, well they may be on the right track.
The solution has always been to stop running teh club like idiots and destroying it and instead building it. Moving it forwards every year. If that is happening, well about time. And it will be down to Robinson, and them not interfering as we know what happens when they do that and not just support. We need much more evidence to see this has happened, and then a point may be reached, even under this mob, when we feel like we have our Charlton back. They have been so rubbish, it is hard to believe, but just letting the right bloke get on with teh job and supporting him when needed is probably all they have to do. More likely they will cock it up for me - but there is hope. But Robinson has to undertsand that is all it is at this point and undertsand that getting our Charlton back is a symbolic phrase which means a lot more than a few words, simply because what we have had to endure inrecent years.
I guess you had to be there to conect with what Robbo was saying, because that is what it felt like to me at the final whistle. First time in a long while that I have felt part of what was happening on the field.
The only thing wrong with his comment is the timing of it. Had he made this comment after say 10 or 12 games when we are top of the league I doubt he would have got much criticism but to make it after one match is a bit premature. He is the sort of bloke who wears his heart on his sleeve and sometimes talks without thinking about the consequences, But he is slowly winning me over and I do believe he is desperate to succeed hear. One thing is for certain if he can bring success to Charlton with our current owners he should go up in everyone ' estimation. COYR
The only thing wrong with his comment is the timing of it. Had he made this comment after say 10 or 12 games when we are top of the league I doubt he would have got much criticism but to make it after one match is a bit premature. He is the sort of bloke who wears his heart on his sleeve and sometimes talks without thinking about the consequences, But he is slowly winning me over and I do believe he is desperate to succeed hear. One thing is for certain if he can bring success to Charlton with our current owners he should go up in everyone ' estimation. COYR
This.
He has maybe got carried away but that is him he does, he wants to please the fans so says things a bit premature like signings in the stands etc.
ffs we beat bristol city, were in a league below what we was in before this cnut got here ( roland ) i dont mind the fella ( karl ) all be it a a typical scouser - quite irritating ( this is a joke) , December time if were top of the league a few points clear playing as team, then we will have an acceptable charlton back, but not our charlton.
also getting slightly pissed off, with the recent thoughts of anyone that doesn't go to home games or back karl as a godlike figure isn't a Charlton fan, its ridiculous and quite offensive to fans that have spent time and money to protest, do we just lay down and accept whats happened, if we start losing games or performing like some of the showers we saw last season then i'm sure karl will go back to being something offensive and " card need to do more" etc.
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Anyone there would have seen a Charlton team put in more effort than any team has under RD. It was also a very skillful performance. A great battling 10 man victory.
The crowd vibe was also the best for years, just like the old days.
KR is doing well considering the hand he has been dealt (I know he chose to play).
Get behind him and stop all the insults. Some of the comments on here are extremely poor.
If you don't want to support the team then don't, but please don't abuse the manager, who I believe is genuinely doing his best for the fans, (as well as his boss and himself).
However, on this occasion he has been a bit premature (ooooeer Missus), it will only be when we deliver a sound spanking to the Fulham U-21s in the Check-a-Trade EFL Trophy that I will dare to dream big again.
Come on KR tell us the reason why we should honestly believe that we do in fact have our Charlton back
Also don't forget we have been told several times it isn't "our" Charlton to get back, so why should we get excited?
Powell used it and the crowd sang it when becoming League 1 Champions. Robinson has apparently said it after thrashing one team 1-0 in League 1.
Strangely enough, a lot of posters on here have also supported Charlton for several decades and are fully aware of how shit, average and fantastic we've been.
However, the club has never been used as part of a weird (and failed) experiment before. Until that ends, the old Charlton has not returned.
All of the above were bothered enough to attend games. None of the above condoned the manhandling of young supporters by stewards or sent out amateur asbo letters to potential season ticket holders.
They all had faults but were nowhere as bad as the current bloke.
One swallow and all that but if that is the way this TEAM not the REGIME play this year then I am happy and will see it as a team i can relate to you and in some ways will see it like My Charlton back.
Nothing the guy say or does will please some people at the moment.
But I do believe that he is an experienced media operator. He knows what he is saying. If he had wanted to state the we were getting our Charlton back on the pitch, he would have said that.
I think the choice of words was deliberate.
I've actually warmed to the guy, met him at Welling and he was more than happy to chat and have a pic with the kids etc. Really wish him well and hope he succeeds as his heart is definitely in the right place
RD and KM have been a total disaster. I am not sure who is worse, but KM is the one day to day managing with ideas and actions that are not suitable for running a English football club.
A fact, unfortunately, the current attendance is changing. There are far more children, with their cokes and burgers- I am sad to acknowledge this is KMs plan. Nothing wrong with wanting to get a continuing fan base, but as " old" supporters bring our children and grandchildren so the supporter base continues. The problem is that what happens when the current new generation get fed up and don't go?
Not having Belgium numptys as manager and imposed hopeless foreign players is a step forward but it's the heart and soul that has been ripped out. Only RD and mainly KM going can start to regain that.
As supporters, we are the world's worst for going over the top following a win or feeling utter dismay following a defeat.
All he's doing is trying to create a togetherness, at least between the team/management and the supporters, something we haven't had for the past few years.
Might not have been the best choice of words but, as others have said, cut him some slack. HE is not the issue here.
But he is way off the mark if he thinks a 1-0 win is going to bring everyone together.
Then there was a lack of undertsanding and respect towards us, and heroes like Powell and Curbs. I think the way Curbishley's interest was dismissed when Luzon got the job was outrageous. The e-mails that Powell recieved and then the lies in denial were even more disgusting. Comments made about us being idiots, comments made about the aims of the club were genuinely frightening and disgusting. But as football fans, we would have forgiven had the club been moderately successful on the pitch. Instead we have been losing fans hand over fist as we watch these idiots allow the club to slide into oblivion. To those that say, it is his money and he can do as he pleases, well no he can't. If he destroys the club and walks away, he won't lose any sleep, but it will kill a lot of us. And no owner stays too long - they are just custodians and have responsabilities as such.
Duchatelet has basically told us he is not inetersted anymore, and if Meire has learnt enough to allow teh manager to get on with it, fair enough. Of course, you first have to appoint the right manager. I was chatting to an ex Chairman of a club currently doing well in the Premier League on Sunday and he told me that you have to get the right man and allow him to do the job. But it isn't rocket science.
Deciding that all of the failings was about appointing a foreign manager was stupid too. It was about not giving teh managers the control they needed and you will hear mutterings of that from teh decent managers that have been appointed by this mob. Slade was a stupid choice, and I said so at the time - a bloke that has never managed to win a promotion FFS in quite a long career. Now if they have stumbled on a decent manager in Robinson, well I do thing they have appointed some not bad managers - but if they have and have decided - maybe from Duchatelet's apathy and possibly our resistance, to let him run the club, well they may be on the right track.
The solution has always been to stop running teh club like idiots and destroying it and instead building it. Moving it forwards every year. If that is happening, well about time. And it will be down to Robinson, and them not interfering as we know what happens when they do that and not just support. We need much more evidence to see this has happened, and then a point may be reached, even under this mob, when we feel like we have our Charlton back. They have been so rubbish, it is hard to believe, but just letting the right bloke get on with teh job and supporting him when needed is probably all they have to do. More likely they will cock it up for me - but there is hope. But Robinson has to undertsand that is all it is at this point and undertsand that getting our Charlton back is a symbolic phrase which means a lot more than a few words, simply because what we have had to endure inrecent years.
Had he made this comment after say 10 or 12 games when we are top of the league I doubt he would have got much criticism but to make it after one match is a bit premature.
He is the sort of bloke who wears his heart on his sleeve and sometimes talks without thinking about the consequences, But he is slowly winning me over and I do believe he is desperate to succeed hear.
One thing is for certain if he can bring success to Charlton with our current owners he should go up in everyone ' estimation.
COYR
He has maybe got carried away but that is him he does, he wants to please the fans so says things a bit premature like signings in the stands etc.